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Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:10 PM
i am cursed one why it happened and what should I do now? is there any HOPE left for me?
I hv made Allah displeased. i am the last of kuffar and down to hypocrites. can i go back? can i get back my wealth? can Allah have HIS MERCY ON ME?

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:13 PM
someome told me CONSULT someone at once or nothing will left with you. plz help this cursed sister.:cry::cry::cry:
I cant die as i want to die as muslim can i die as muslim?

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:19 PM
i am doubt in islam if atheists are on right tract? what if christianity is the best religion?
why i am thinking like these? can someone tell me plzzzzz? how can i get back my imaan??

AbuMuslimKhorasani
03-03-2012, 05:28 PM
Salam Alaikum,

"...and never give up hope of Allah's Soothing Mercy: truly no one despairs of Allah's Soothing Mercy, except those who have no faith." [12:87]

"And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good." [7:56]

"And seek forgiveness of Allah. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." [73:20]

Sister never lose hope in Allah. Perform your prayers and read the Quran.

amr123
03-03-2012, 05:35 PM
i am cursed one why it happened and what should I do now? is there any HOPE left for me?
I hv made Allah displeased. i am the last of kuffar and down to hypocrites. can i go back? can i get back my wealth? can Allah have HIS MERCY ON ME?

:salam: sister.

First of all relax. All these doubts and whispers are experienced all of Muslims. Its shaytaan's way of distracting us from Allah Ta'ala. There is no Sin that Allah Ta'ala won't forgive if we repent sincerely. Even if one doesn't repent Allah Ta'ala may forgive all sins except Shirk. But remember if one repents sincerely Allah Ta'ala will forgive even Shirk such is the Mercy of our Rabb.

If you want to know how to deal with such whispers, please take time to read this small book. http://yunuspatel.co.za/books-whisperingsofshaitaan.php


Sister stay strong in you faith in Allah. Fight shaytaan, Never give up. Allah is always with us.

nike89x
03-03-2012, 05:36 PM
Bismihee Ta'aala

Asalamualaikum.

Don't ponder about these thoughts. Get these thoughts out of your head immediately. Make istigfar. Make dua to Allah (SWT) to guide you on the right path. Have hope in Allah (SWT). Go surround yourself with religious sisters. Go do something religious.

Just don't sit there thinking about all these thoughts. We are blessed to have this iman. Don't let it go.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:45 PM
THANK YOU ALL. Thank u so much.

ok I this is shaytaan. I will not make him succeed this TIME IN SHA ALLAAH.
I am not losing hope. Thanks for the ayat.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:47 PM
but I never worshiped I have preferred my nafs over ALLAH. Now when i said Ok I am repenting AND when I DID.. I LOST IT, I LOST ALLAH AND MY PROPHET PBUH :'( I DONT DESERVE THEM NOW.

This is not shaitaan This is Allah's ADHAAB over me.

He is saying, Ok Now YOU ARROGANT BOASTER, NOW YOU ARE COMING AFTER SOOOO MANY YEARS? AND REPENTING? YOU ARE LOST.

amr123
03-03-2012, 05:51 PM
:salam:

Sister we should never lose hope in Allah Ta'ala.

"Certainly no one despairs of Allah's Mercy, except the people who disbelieve."
(Qur'an 12: 87)

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:53 PM
These thoughts came when i turned to ALLAH. So it means HE DONT WANT IMAAN IN MY HEART TO DWELL ANYMORE? Is it a punishment? I deserve.

I was playing with Imaan which was not a joke. but I want it back. how can I get back?

amr123
03-03-2012, 05:53 PM
:bism:

Watch this video in which Ustad Nouman Ali khan explains the trick of shaytaan in making us lose hope in Allah's Mercy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydWOEv46Mc

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:54 PM
:salam:

Sister we should never lose hope in Allah Ta'ala.

"Certainly no one despairs of Allah's Mercy, except the people who disbelieve."
(Qur'an 12: 87)

and I am saying i am nt a believer now. I doubting it. :'( why so?

amr123
03-03-2012, 05:55 PM
These thoughts came when i turned to ALLAH. So it means HE DONT WANT IMAAN IN MY HEART TO DWELL ANYMORE? Is it a punishment? I deserve.

I was playing with Imaan which was not a joke. but I want it back. how can I get back?

Sister its all tests and trails of Allah Ta'ala. We should be steadfast during these times. We all make mistakes, but our sins which maybe like mountains, but its not Match for the infinite Mercy of Allah Ta'ala.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 05:55 PM
:bism:

Watch this video in which Ustad Nouman Ali khan explains the trick of shaytaan in making us lose hope in Allah's Mercy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydWOEv46Mc

ok watching now.

hatelife
03-03-2012, 05:58 PM
Iman may be weak sometimes and may be strong sometimes, what you should do is balance and try to make it stronger each day and not from first day it wont work that way.

The first thing you should is installing something in your heart and your mind that Allah Almighty Is our God and Muhammad SWS is our last prophet, after installation lock it no matter what happens no one can remove it from you.

After that al sunna and all prayers etc..

ummitaalib
03-03-2012, 05:59 PM
but I never worshiped I have preferred my nafs over ALLAH. Now when i said Ok I am repenting AND when I DID.. I LOST IT, I LOST ALLAH AND MY PROPHET PBUH :'( I DONT DESERVE THEM NOW.

This is not shaitaan This is Allah's ADHAAB over me.

He is saying, Ok Now YOU ARROGANT BOASTER, NOW YOU ARE COMING AFTER SOOOO MANY YEARS? AND REPENTING? YOU ARE LOST.
assalaamu 'alaykum my dear sister,
It is not Allah ta'ala's adhaab on you. Now why would he punish you when you have decided to repent and turn to Him? Think about it. If anyone has to lose anything, it is Shaytaan. He knows you're turning to Allah and he knows that Allah will forgive all your past in a moment so he's attacking you with these whispers. Ignore them like you would ignore an unwanted obnoxious guest and he will go away insha Allah.

amr123
03-03-2012, 06:00 PM
and I am saying i am nt a believer now. I doubting it. :'( why so?

:bism:
:saw:

Sister you being uncomfortable with such doubts is in itself sign of Imaan. If we didn't have Imaan, we would have be comfortable with such thoughts. Please read this extract from the book of Ml. Yunus Patel 'Combating whispering of shaytaan'



Troublesome thoughts
A lady called, saying that whilst reading Salaah, the images of idols come in front of her and there is a whispering in her heart :
“You are not a Muslim. You are a Mushrik (one who associates partners with Allah Ta’ala), so prostrate (or make sajda) to this
idol.” Surely if an image like that comes before a person in Salaah, the person will become terribly worried. And she repeatedly hears
this: “You have become a Mushrik. You have become a Mushrik.”

As a result she was very, very anxious and worried, saying that due to this worry, she hadn’t slept. Due to the frequency of these
whisperings, she was becoming a nervous wreck. She did not know as to whether she would die as a Muslim or not. In fact, she
believed that she had lost her Imaan.

The Sign of Imaan
Nevertheless, I asked this lady a simple question : “Are you comfortable with this thought, that you have turned away from
Islam and that you are worshipping this idol, which you see in front of you ?”
She said : “No, I am very worried. I am a Muslim and wish to die a Muslim.”
To this reply, I said : “That is the sign of Imaan. If you did not have Imaan, then you would have been extremely comfortable with
that thought.”
The person who is a Christian, Jew, Hindu or Atheist, does not find discomfort in believing what his respective faith asks him to
believe. The person is not uncomfortable with these ideologies, doctrines and credences, be it of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism,
Atheism, etc.
If you were to ask a Christian : “Are you uncomfortable with your belief in Jesus Christ as the Lord, or the son of God, or in the
doctrine of Trinity : the Lord, the son of God and the Holy spirit, all in one ?”
He would say : “No, this is my belief and I am very comfortable with it. In fact, I’d be quite happy if you also believe in the same.”

On the other hand, those Muslims who are tormented with such thoughts, images or whisperings are most uncomfortable with
them.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:05 PM
:bism:

Watch this video in which Ustad Nouman Ali khan explains the trick of shaytaan in making us lose hope in Allah's Mercy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydWOEv46Mc

jazakAllahu khayr. thank you sooooo much for this video link.

to where can I go? and from whom can i take protection other than ALLAAH? I AM ASKING HIM TO GIVE ME BACK MY FAITH AND TO GIVE ME PROTECTION.
I AM GOING TO TAKE REFUGE IN HIS ZIKRS FORT LIKE KIDS IN MOTHERS LAP.IN SHA ALLAH. NOW I AM FEELING GOOD ALHAMDULILLAAH.

mohtashims
03-03-2012, 06:06 PM
Assalamualaikum,

Read this link, it helped me till date and inshaallah till my death.

http://www.daruliftaa.com/question?txt_QuestionID=q-21462859

Make dua for me.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:08 PM
assalaamu 'alaykum my dear sister,
It is not Allah ta'ala's adhaab on you. Now why would he punish you when you have decided to repent and turn to Him? Think about it. If anyone has to lose anything, it is Shaytaan. He knows you're turning to Allah and he knows that Allah will forgive all your past in a moment so he's attacking you with these whispers. Ignore them like you would ignore an unwanted obnoxious guest and he will go away insha Allah.

IN SHA ALLAH. Thank you sister. yes yes why will shaytan want me to go back to Allah. so he wanted me to be hopeless? :'( no I WILL NEVER INsha ALLAH.
Thnk you sister.

amr123
03-03-2012, 06:10 PM
jazakAllahu khayr. thank you sooooo much for this video link.

to where can I go? and from whom can i take protection other than ALLAAH? I AM ASKING HIM TO GIVE ME BACK MY FAITH AND TO GIVE ME PROTECTION.
I AM GOING TO TAKE REFUGE IN HIS ZIKRS FORT LIKE KIDS IN MOTHERS LAP.IN SHA ALLAH. NOW I AM FEELING GOOD ALHAMDULILLAAH.

Please remember me in your Duas sister. May Allah make it easy for All of us. Ameen.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:11 PM
Iman may be weak sometimes and may be strong sometimes, what you should do is balance and try to make it stronger each day and not from first day it wont work that way.

The first thing you should is installing something in your heart and your mind that Allah Almighty Is our God and Muhammad SWS is our last prophet, after installation lock it no matter what happens no one can remove it from you.

After that al sunna and all prayers etc..

ok i will effort to make it strong on daily basis. thank you for your help.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:12 PM
Please remember me in your Duas sister. May Allah make it easy for All of us. Ameen. amin.
how can i forget you in my prayers now? for that vid is ALHAMDOLILLAH WHAT I NEEDED my true brother in islam may you see taste the sweetness of iman and success in both the worlds.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:15 PM
OK Plz u all make dua for me. i am going to say namaz. and i will come here and ask again if i feel somthing.

thanks for ur all help. jazakAllah khair.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:17 PM
Assalamualaikum,

Read this link, it helped me till date and inshaallah till my death.

http://www.daruliftaa.com/question?txt_QuestionID=q-21462859

Make dua for me.

jazakallah khair for the help bro. ok i will in sha ALLAH. PLZ you too make dua for me i need it plz. thanks soo much.

Iman Omer
03-03-2012, 06:20 PM
Bismihee Ta'aala

Asalamualaikum.

Don't ponder about these thoughts. Get these thoughts out of your head immediately. Make istigfar. Make dua to Allah (SWT) to guide you on the right path. Have hope in Allah (SWT). Go surround yourself with religious sisters. Go do something religious.

Just don't sit there thinking about all these thoughts. We are blessed to have this iman. Don't let it go.

walakom salam

i will do as u prescribed me brothr in sha ALLAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

mmb786
03-03-2012, 06:31 PM
May ALLAH make easy for you sis. Take the advice provided and don't lose hope in the mercy of ALLAH :taala:.

Plz remember us in your dua's too.

SeekerOfGuidance
03-03-2012, 09:17 PM
walakom salam

i will do as u prescribed me brothr in sha ALLAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

:salam:

Learn the meaning of Surah Fatihah.

Keep beseeching to Allah with Surah Fatiha - a du'a that has the power to raise you from the lowest depths to highest of ranks.

If you sincerely try your best, there is absolutely no doubt that Allah will rescue you.

:ws:

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 06:27 AM
:salam:

Learn the meaning of Surah Fatihah.

Keep beseeching to Allah with Surah Fatiha - a du'a that has the power to raise you from the lowest depths to highest of ranks.

If you sincerely try your best, there is absolutely no doubt that Allah will rescue you.

:ws:

walekom salam

I know its meaning and little tafsir of it too. ALHAMULILLAAH.

thnk you so much for your help. Ok i will recite it with heart IN SHA ALLAH. yes its a complete dua. JazakAllah khiar.

amr123
04-03-2012, 07:44 AM
walekom salam

I know its meaning and little tafsir of it too. ALHAMULILLAAH.

thnk you so much for your help. Ok i will recite it with heart IN SHA ALLAH. yes its a complete dua. JazakAllah khiar.


Sister do read the following book. Its a small book, but very deep and very helpful. It help me combat the tricks of shaytaan I suffered for years.

sudoku
04-03-2012, 08:22 AM
:salam:

@ sister Imaan- Please remember to keep visiting this forum, :insh: it will benefit you. Whenever you have a doubt, come tell us so that we may reassure you.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 10:18 AM
Sister do read the following book. Its a small book, but very deep and very helpful. It help me combat the tricks of shaytaan I suffered for years.

jazakAllah khiar. i have downloaded it, and am reading it after asar in sha ALLAH.

Thank you brother for your help.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 10:21 AM
May ALLAH make easy for you sis. Take the advice provided and don't lose hope in the mercy of ALLAH :taala:.

Plz remember us in your dua's too.

ameen dear sister. yes I am taking there advice ALHAMDOLILLAH.

I made dua for you when i read it yesterday but i forgot to give u reply sistr. dont mind plz.

remember me too in ur duas plzz as your will be accepted at once, as Allah will be pleased with you more because of ur good acts.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 10:25 AM
:salam:

@ sister Imaan- Please remember to keep visiting this forum, :insh: it will benefit you. Whenever you have a doubt, come tell us so that we may reassure you.

walekom salaam

sister yes i am benefiting from it ALHAMDOLILLAAH.
JazakALLAH khair for this wonderful forum. may ALLAH accepts your all efforts. you dont know how precious this place is MASHA ALLAH.

thank you for yur encouragement.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 10:37 AM
I hv read a booklet of ill effects of sins.

it was there.
[ And if the people of the towns had believed and had the Taqwa (piety), certainly, We should have opened for them blessings from the heaven and the earth, but they belied (the Messengers). So We took them (with punishment) for what they used to earn (polytheism and crimes, etc.).

97. Did the people of the towns then feel secure against the coming of Our Punishment by night while they are asleep?

98. Or, did the people of the towns then feel secure against the coming of Our Punishment in the forenoon while they play?

99. Did they then feel secure against the Plan of Allah. None feels secure from the Plan of Allah except the people who are the losers.

100. Is it not clear to those who inherit the earth in succession from its (previous) possessors, that had We willed, We would have punished them for their sins. And We seal up their hearts so that they hear not?

101. Those were the towns whose story We relate unto you (O Muhammad ). And there came indeed to them their Messengers with clear proofs, but they were not such as to believe in that which they had rejected before. Thus Allah does seal up the hearts of the disbelievers (from each and every kind of religious guidance).

But those who deny Our signs - We will progressively lead them [to destruction] from where they do not know. 7 Al Araf.]


as i said i was a sinner ALLAH has kept me from major SINS ALHAMDOLILLAH. but i knew that we are for worship but i always delayed it that i will start sooon. that soon never came. now I asked forgiveness but after that it happened so. does it shows that It is Adhaab of Allah?

His punishment is on me now? now bcause of FEAR of punishment and Losing IMAAN I want to make HIM pleased.
will ALLAH take away His punishment from me? heart sealing and heart hardening and doubting ISLAM are all the wrost punishment than worldly trials. (according to that booklet)

this is punishment i know ALLAH KNOWS WELL but pLEASE tell me can we still hope in Punishment? and can we return to ALLAH?

Momin1
04-03-2012, 01:30 PM
:salam:
I have experienced this kind of thing before ......and it has been one year since that happenned...
And u are experiencing almost the same thing which I experienced..


The first thing which shaiytaan does is that he will whisper all kinds of thoughts against Islam...
Examples:
1.u don't have imaan
2.u don't believe on the aakhirah,Quran,etc etc
3.u can't get out of this situation
4.allah is displeased with u
5.ur all previous deeds are now gone..u r nt a Muslim anymore
6.if u read kalima tayyiba then he will whisper that it is not from the heart


These are all tricks of shaiytaan to make us believe that we have lost our imaan so that we may not do any good deeds anymore...

Or else he will create doubts in our mind like

7.what if atheist are right?
8.what if those idols where true. (Jhoote khuda:cheesygri)
And many more doubts...

U will notice that he will whisper every kind of doubt to make u out of the fold of Islam. And not to practice Islam anymore....

And remember another thing that if a father gives some gifts to his son will he ask it back?
Or if a husband gives some gifts to his wife will he ask it back?
Similarly if Allah gives momin the gift of imaan he will never let us loose it.

U should beg allah(swt) at tahajjud to make u free from this problem.
And again again again don't forget it's all shaiytaan ..........

Remember me in ur prayers....hope this would have helped u

demir tekinalp
04-03-2012, 01:37 PM
I hv read a booklet of ill effects of sins.

it was there.
[ And if the people of the towns had believed and had the Taqwa (piety), certainly, We should have opened for them blessings from the heaven and the earth, but they belied (the Messengers). So We took them (with punishment) for what they used to earn (polytheism and crimes, etc.).

97. Did the people of the towns then feel secure against the coming of Our Punishment by night while they are asleep?

98. Or, did the people of the towns then feel secure against the coming of Our Punishment in the forenoon while they play?

99. Did they then feel secure against the Plan of Allah. None feels secure from the Plan of Allah except the people who are the losers.

100. Is it not clear to those who inherit the earth in succession from its (previous) possessors, that had We willed, We would have punished them for their sins. And We seal up their hearts so that they hear not?

101. Those were the towns whose story We relate unto you (O Muhammad ). And there came indeed to them their Messengers with clear proofs, but they were not such as to believe in that which they had rejected before. Thus Allah does seal up the hearts of the disbelievers (from each and every kind of religious guidance).

But those who deny Our signs - We will progressively lead them [to destruction] from where they do not know. 7 Al Araf.]


as i said i was a sinner ALLAH has kept me from major SINS ALHAMDOLILLAH. but i knew that we are for worship but i always delayed it that i will start sooon. that soon never came. now I asked forgiveness but after that it happened so. does it shows that It is Adhaab of Allah?

His punishment is on me now? now bcause of FEAR of punishment and Losing IMAAN I want to make HIM pleased.
will ALLAH take away His punishment from me? heart sealing and heart hardening and doubting ISLAM are all the wrost punishment than worldly trials. (according to that booklet)

this is punishment i know ALLAH KNOWS WELL but pLEASE tell me can we still hope in Punishment? and can we return to ALLAH?


Dear Sister,
Iman, especially kamil iman is the most important virtue. Knowing or understanding Allah as human may know it helps crucillay. The one creates the universes (alems) know your positions, feelings better than you. Because He creates them. Allah gives people lots of conditions from both inside and outside themselves in order to test their good will, wiilpower towards Him. A person must choose Allah's side every second in any circumstances. This is the power of iman. There no power but Allah. So your feelings, thoughts known by Allah better than you. He creates your breath, your look, your liver, your lungs, your nerves etc. even you think about some silly things. You must see His mercy and blessing over you in every seconds. Blessing of Allah comes from His endless and magnifient love that a human can't garsp exactly. So love Allah, Who shows His love you from everywhere, trust only Allah you will return to Him for eternally afer this short life that we wiil show Him that our iman is worth of His love an blessings.

I will pray for you,

If you have other specific questions please do not hesitate.

Selam,
Demir

mmb786
04-03-2012, 01:45 PM
ameen dear sister. yes I am taking there advice ALHAMDOLILLAH.

I made dua for you when i read it yesterday but i forgot to give u reply sistr. dont mind plz.

remember me too in ur duas plzz as your will be accepted at once, as Allah will be pleased with you more because of ur good acts.

Mmmmmm. Good acts..... *cough* *cough* dunno about that!!!

Anyway, u definitely will be in my dua's :insh:

btw this is just my second post on this thread so i'm sure u mixing me up with another sister. : D

Plz read the book provided by bro amr (if u didn't already), its really great :mash:

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:11 PM
Sister do read the following book. Its a small book, but very deep and very helpful. It help me combat the tricks of shaytaan I suffered for years.

I read it JazakALLAH Khiar bhayi. I have matched many of whisperers which shaytan had put in my heart.


I am Thankful to ALLAH that i read this book as just now when i have repented and on my new go. it was a must to know my enemy.

and thanks a lot for your help brother. if you dont mind please, i didnt understand its last part. [ i know how can we exceed but what is meant by that exceed. that meant will go to hell because of this?]

It is narrated by Imam Abu Dawood (Rahmatullah ‘alaih) that when
Abdullah bin Mughaffal (j) heard his son making dua : “O
Allah, I ask Thee a white palace on the right of paradise when I
enter it.”, he advised his son to ask Allah Ta’ala for Jannat and
seek refuge in Him from Jahannum, for he said that he had heard
Rasulullah e say : “In this community there will be some people
who will exceed the limits in purification as well as supplication.”

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:18 PM
Mmmmmm. Good acts..... *cough* *cough* dunno about that!!!

Anyway, u definitely will be in my dua's :insh:

btw this is just my second post on this thread so i'm sure u mixing me up with another sister. : D

Plz read the book provided by bro amr (if u didn't already), its really great :mash:

thank you for that favor sis.

no i was talking about you not other sis and ur that first post where you have asked me to make dua for you all and where you have made dua for me that may Allah made this easy for me.

I've read that. yes sister i find that more than great ALHAMDOLILLAH.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:35 PM
:salam:
I have experienced this kind of thing before ......and it has been one year since that happenned...
And u are experiencing almost the same thing which I experienced..


The first thing which shaiytaan does is that he will whisper all kinds of thoughts against Islam...
Examples:
1.u don't have imaan
2.u don't believe on the aakhirah,Quran,etc etc
3.u can't get out of this situation
4.allah is displeased with u
5.ur all previous deeds are now gone..u r nt a Muslim anymore
6.if u read kalima tayyiba then he will whisper that it is not from the heart


These are all tricks of shaiytaan to make us believe that we have lost our imaan so that we may not do any good deeds anymore...

Or else he will create doubts in our mind like

7.what if atheist are right?
8.what if those idols where true. (Jhoote khuda:cheesygri)
And many more doubts...

U will notice that he will whisper every kind of doubt to make u out of the fold of Islam. And not to practice Islam anymore....

And remember another thing that if a father gives some gifts to his son will he ask it back?
Or if a husband gives some gifts to his wife will he ask it back?
Similarly if Allah gives momin the gift of imaan he will never let us loose it.

U should beg allah(swt) at tahajjud to make u free from this problem.
And again again again don't forget it's all shaiytaan ..........

Remember me in ur prayers....hope this would have helped u

walekom assalam

may Allah keep us away from doubts n like these but I felt peace around when i read ur reply. I am not the only one who has gone through such state of mind ni am more happy to see tht now you are trying to make me strong with these words. the same these whispers i had in my heart.


brother that getting back gifts saying of yours. now I dont think we should think like that way muslim can die as kafir may ALLAH protect us from such an end.

I learnt ths ALHAMDOLILLAH tht I will take care of my Imaan fractions of seconds nw onwards IN SHA ALLAH. i was dont know why so arrogant about my Nafs and imaan that I will be a person of paradise. Tht was surely of satan's trick.

may ALLAH increase your imaan day by day. amin. thank a lot for your help.

amr123
04-03-2012, 05:39 PM
i didnt understand its last part. [ i know how can we exceed but what is meant by that exceed. that meant will go to hell because of this?]

It is narrated by Imam Abu Dawood (Rahmatullah ‘alaih) that when
Abdullah bin Mughaffal (j) heard his son making dua : “O
Allah, I ask Thee a white palace on the right of paradise when I
enter it.”, he advised his son to ask Allah Ta’ala for Jannat and
seek refuge in Him from Jahannum, for he said that he had heard
Rasulullah e say : “In this community there will be some people
who will exceed the limits in purification as well as supplication.”

:salam:

I m not a very knowledgeable person. But I shall tell you how I understood the hadith. Others please correct me if I am wrong.

1) Exceed the limits of purification:
It means that some people unnecessary repeat wudu due to doubt caused by waswaas of shaytaan.

2) Exceed the limits of supplication:
The Sahabi's son asked for a white palace on the right of paradise. This according to the sahabi is an unnecessarily 'specific' dua. The bounties of Jannah is unimaginable and its basically unnecessary to specify things like 'white palace', hence He advices his son to make his Dua less specific: 'ask Allah Ta’ala for Jannat and seek refuge in Him from Jahannum'. Have in mind this doesn't mean not to make abundant dua, we should make abundant dua. Allah Ta'ala likes the slave who makes abundant supplications.

Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Whenever a Muslim supplicates Allah, He accepts his supplication or averts any similar kind of trouble from him until he prays for something sinful or something that may break the ties of kinship.'' Upon this someone of the Companions said: "Then we shall supplicate plenty.'' The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Allah is more plentiful (in responding).''
[At-Tirmidhi].

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:42 PM
Dear Sister,
Iman, especially kamil iman is the most important virtue. Knowing or understanding Allah as human may know it helps crucillay. The one creates the universes (alems) know your positions, feelings better than you. Because He creates them. Allah gives people lots of conditions from both inside and outside themselves in order to test their good will, wiilpower towards Him. A person must choose Allah's side every second in any circumstances. This is the power of iman. There no power but Allah. So your feelings, thoughts known by Allah better than you. He creates your breath, your look, your liver, your lungs, your nerves etc. even you think about some silly things. You must see His mercy and blessing over you in every seconds. Blessing of Allah comes from His endless and magnifient love that a human can't garsp exactly. So love Allah, Who shows His love you from everywhere, trust only Allah you will return to Him for eternally afer this short life that we wiil show Him that our iman is worth of His love an blessings.

I will pray for you,

If you have other specific questions please do not hesitate.

Selam,
Demir

wa alekom assalam.

Thank you for your dua brother.

This post is for me in my new life of turning back to Him. In SHA ALLAH i will not do any calculations but simply will worship out of HIS love. i have really ignored how much HE has blessed me n how much i have ignored them all and HIM. I am feeling good now that ALLAH has shown me this waay to come and ask. i am more than thankful to u all. and now little jealous too. to see you all at one side and me at another but I am hopeful in sha ALLAH one day i will also be pious like you all.

amr123
04-03-2012, 05:43 PM
Actually the hadith is explained in the next paragraph of the book:

Exceeding the limits in purification refers to washing the limbs more than the Sunnat method of three times in wudhu and ghusl, using excessive water and washing to such an extent that one reaches the limit of ‘waswaas’ (whisperings) and ‘wehm’ (doubts).

A person would exceed the limits of supplication (dua) by asking Allah Ta’ala for unlawful things, or asking Allah Ta’ala in a manner which is against the etiquette of asking.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:52 PM
:salam:

I m not a very knowledgeable person. But I shall tell you how I understood the hadith. Others please correct me if I am wrong.

1) Exceed the limits of purification:
It means that some people unnecessary repeat wudu due to doubt caused by waswaas of shaytaan.

2) Exceed the limits of supplication:
The Sahabi's son asked for a white palace on the right of paradise. This according to the sahabi is an unnecessarily 'specific' dua. The bounties of Jannah is unimaginable and its basically unnecessary to specify things like 'white palace', hence He advices his son to make his Dua less specific: 'ask Allah Ta’ala for Jannat and seek refuge in Him from Jahannum'. Have in mind this doesn't mean not to make abundant dua, we should make abundant dua. Allah Ta'ala likes the slave who makes abundant supplications.

Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Whenever a Muslim supplicates Allah, He accepts his supplication or averts any similar kind of trouble from him until he prays for something sinful or something that may break the ties of kinship.'' Upon this someone of the Companions said: "Then we shall supplicate plenty.'' The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Allah is more plentiful (in responding).''
[At-Tirmidhi].

wa alekom asalam
JazakALLAH Khiar brother this is understandable now. In that quote Prophet s.a.w has talked about some community. I was wondering if that is community of hell fire or of muslims community who will exceed the limits.

Iman Omer
04-03-2012, 05:57 PM
Actually the hadith is explained in the next paragraph of the book:

Exceeding the limits in purification refers to washing the limbs more than the Sunnat method of three times in wudhu and ghusl, using excessive water and washing to such an extent that one reaches the limit of ‘waswaas’ (whisperings) and ‘wehm’ (doubts).

A person would exceed the limits of supplication (dua) by asking Allah Ta’ala for unlawful things, or asking Allah Ta’ala in a manner which is against the etiquette of asking.

yes it was next to tht brother. but i think i didnt ask you clearly thts why you didnt get my question. in my that question whch ihve asked u, there in brackets i hv told u that i know how will they exceed. but tht people will be of which category? Mohammad s.a.w had talked about hell or in which aspect? sorry for i was not clear in asking.

amr123
04-03-2012, 11:34 PM
yes it was next to tht brother. but i think i didnt ask you clearly thts why you didnt get my question. in my that question whch ihve asked u, there in brackets i hv told u that i know how will they exceed. but tht people will be of which category? Mohammad s.a.w had talked about hell or in which aspect? sorry for i was not clear in asking.

Community here stands for Muslim ummah.

Aseatic
05-03-2012, 12:34 AM
:salam:

I am wondering maybe the sister is in a state of "Qabd", where someone prays or does ibadah and Allah accepts the deeds but witholds the feelings of peacefulness and satisfaction that normally comes from ibadah.

This happens for reasons known to Allah, it does not mean He is angry. I read that if you continue praying and doing ibadah despite not getting peace and satisfaction, the rewards are multiplied many many times.

I did go through a period like that for five years when I was at University as an undergrad. I prayed and read Qur'an and did the ordinary dhikrs and felt nothing good. I don't know why it happened. Then it went away and satisfaction came again, and I don't know why it went away. It was afterwards that I read about "Qabd" and "Bast". Maybe that's what it was and I hope something good came from it, because I still don't understand the how and why.

This may explain a few things:
http://ibnayyub.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/spiritual-problems-in-the-path-of-truth-qabd-and-bast/

Iman Omer
05-03-2012, 01:10 AM
Community here stands for Muslim ummah.

yes after having asked i realized later its about muslim community. JazakALLAH Khair.

Iman Omer
05-03-2012, 01:19 AM
:salam:

I am wondering maybe the sister is in a state of "Qabd", where someone prays or does ibadah and Allah accepts the deeds but witholds the feelings of peacefulness and satisfaction that normally comes from ibadah.

This happens for reasons known to Allah, it does not mean He is angry. I read that if you continue praying and doing ibadah despite not getting peace and satisfaction, the rewards are multiplied many many times.

I did go through a period like that for five years when I was at University as an undergrad. I prayed and read Qur'an and did the ordinary dhikrs and felt nothing good. I don't know why it happened. Then it went away and satisfaction came again, and I don't know why it went away. It was afterwards that I read about "Qabd" and "Bast". Maybe that's what it was and I hope something good came from it, because I still don't understand the how and why.

This may explain a few things:
http://ibnayyub.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/spiritual-problems-in-the-path-of-truth-qabd-and-bast/

wa alekom assalm

I can't comprehend if mine is this state what you have mentioned or not. Thanks for the link brother what is suluk? if you have any idea about.
i wish my state is that of 'Qabd' one and not the hardening of heart as i am taking it.
JazakAllah Khair

Shuayb Abdul-Khaaliq
05-03-2012, 01:48 AM
:bism:

:salam:

From the book which brother Amr123 linked earlier in the thread (may Allah :taala: reward this brother for always linking to this book and trying to help all of us become educated in regards to combating the whisperings of shaitaan. Ameen) :

"The Sahabah-e-Kiraam :anhum:, who had been blessed with the
company of Rasulullah :saw:, complained to Nabi (pbuh) of the same
evil thoughts. There are different incidents mentioned in the
Ahadith.

Once a person said to Nabi :saw: : “Sometimes such evil thoughts
occur to me that I would rather be burnt to ashes than make a
mention of them.” (e.g. Who created Allah Ta’ala ?)

Nabi :saw: replied : “Praise and thanks be to Allah who has turned
this affair into one of evil suggestions.” In other words, it is the
grace of Allah Ta’ala that He has made these thoughts remain
thoughts only and that these had not then turned into doubt and
evil deeds.

It is mentioned in another narration that some of the Sahabah (RA)
presented themselves to Rasulullah :saw: and said: “Our condition is
that sometimes we experience such evil thoughts and sentiments in
our hearts that it is most painful to even mention them.”
Rasulullah :saw: said to them : “But that is pure faith.” …To feel
disturbed and uneasy at such thoughts and sentiments is a sign of
good Imaan."

May Allah :taala: keep all of us, our families, friends, and loved ones under His protection. Ameen.

JazakAllah.

Asalaam-o-alaikum Warahmatullah.

kenshin1733
06-03-2012, 06:08 PM
These thoughts came when i turned to ALLAH. So it means HE DONT WANT IMAAN IN MY HEART TO DWELL ANYMORE? Is it a punishment? I deserve.

I was playing with Imaan which was not a joke. but I want it back. how can I get back?

There was a story I heard from my friend, I don't have references nor do I know if it is valid. But its inspiring to me, so I'm sharing it with you.
A man had done hajj many times in his life and had gone another time with his son. When they both were at Arafat (or some time during the hajj period), they both heard a voice that was clearly meant for the father, that his hajj is not accepted. It didn't feel malicous to think that it was from shayateen. So, it was thought to be from Allah's command. After hearing those words, the son asks his father, "What is the use of performing Hajj, when it is not being accepted?". The father replies, "Ever since I've started coming for Haj, I've been hearing these voices. And it breaks my heart. However, if I do not come at Allah's doorstep, is there any other place where I should go? For there is no place except Allah's mercy which I can seek. So no matter what the voices say, I keep coming years after years, so that my haj would be accepted". After this statement was said by father, they heard another voice that said something to the effect that all the hajj that he has performed had been accepted.

This story may not be true and is just a story. But it teaches us the the kind of attitude towards Imaan. Even if Allah swt is angry with us, where else will go, except to him. It is like, if you're parents are angry, and if you love them, no matter how angry they are, you go to them seeking forgiveness. And even if they don't forgive you, you keep asking it as long as it takes to be forgiven. That is what I think must be done. Not just by you, by me as well. I hope it puts the feelings to rest.
And if you are not married, you should get married. I believe that would also help. Coz, after marriage, a lot of responsibilities would keep you away from such thoughts :)

amr123
10-04-2012, 05:58 PM
Assalamu 'alaykum wrwb,
I am experiencing the same situation since february, but now its worst.. I don't have doubts, but evil feelings, like I am not a beliver, but anyway I still pray although I am very confused.. I don't know if I am a muslim anymore, I try and try all day to convince my self I am, sometimes I do, but then agian this feeling comes back .. it is just like I can't believe in Allah anymore.. but I desperately want to.. I feel so empty and my chest is oppressed because of anxiety.. then I feel like Allah doesn't love me anymore or like He has forsaken me.. now I am even depressed..
some months ago I couldn't even understand why ppl don't believe in Allah now I am the one .. I can't believe yet it is happening to me, I wonder if I will ever get back my faith and be happy again with Qur'an and Allah.. the more I try to get close to him the more I fail.. it is keeling me .. and now everybody knows I am depressed but nobody knows why.. nobody can even imagine what I am going through.. everyday I am fighting with myself.. I have reached the point where I don't know who I am anymore..

Ive passed this months reading and reading about islam, waswasah, Allah, etc.. but my condition didn't change... now I don't know what to do anymore.. I have decided to wait and to see what will happen, I only hope I won't dye in this state! :(
pls everybody make du'a for me.. Jazak Allahu Khairan!

:ws: brother.

What you are experiencing is certainly the whisperings and tricks of shaytaan. Read the following book on how to combat the whisperings of shaytaan by Maulana Yunus Patel. Its highly recommended. http://yunuspatel.co.za/books-whisperingsofshaitaan.php

Maripat
18-04-2012, 07:35 AM
Assalamu 'alaykum,

first of all let me tell you i am a sister but don't remember how and why I'm resulting a brother,
anyway, I am taking antidepressants, but however still depressed, I am repeating myself I don't believe to my self, I don't believe to my feelings neither to my thoughts but I only believe in Allah, then I feel a little better but then I keep thinking what if one day I will give up and become a real Kafir,
I try to read Qur'an, my heart seems just dead and destroyed becuz of anxiety, and I feel like all ayats where Allah describes Kafirs and hypocrites are just talking about me.. then I get scared!
I am sure this is a punishment from Allah, I remember I started to have this thoughts and feelings just when I started to do dhikr.. but before I used to pray, last year I even decided to wear hijab, anyway I used to sin too.. and I became arrogant, I thought I was so pious, and now I think Allah is punishing me for that and for many other sins :(

I am trying to ponder over Allah's creation in order to increase my iman, but nothing, I am still the same, still me.. sometimes I wish I could wake up in the morning and being someone else, a true believer!
the only reason why I am still tying to fight against my self and shaytan, and the only reason why I want to be a true believer is because I don't want to burn in hell.. I fear hell a lot, I feel death a lot, not becuz I am loving this world or this life, my life is a disaster now, but just bcuz I am afraid hell is waiting for me..

it is so sad when people look at me and think I am so pious and so good just bcuz I am wearing hijab, but I don't feel like that.. in fact sometimes I even think to wear off my hijab just bcuz I don't want people to think I am a good person.. I don't feel so..
I miss so much the love of Allah in my heart.. it was the only good thing I had before.. I never had real friends in my life, and I neither needed to, I had Allah and was enough for me, now I feel so so lonely, like I have nothing but just shaytan and my nefs who are destroying me everyday!

I wonder if is really possible to overpass this condition, I wonder if it is really possible to become again a good muslim, to feel Allah's love or to heave a good heart (mine seems just dead)?
sometimes I think it's useless the efforts I am making, Allah has forsaken me.. but then I try to have a little hope and then again I lose it and then again I find it.. now I am just tired and depressed!
I wonder will Allah love me again? I feel just doomed like I understand nothing what Qur'an says, I am afraid Allah has sealed my heart! :( so why should I try to be better anymore?
(1) Just absorb the feeling, as much as you can, that this is a bad state to be in. Later on it will help your resolve to be away from those actions that might lead back to it.
(2) Such difficult states are the ones through which many of the known people of faith in past had to go through. Relax you are in a good company - if not a good condition.
(3) Think like this - Allah (SWT) decided good for those people of past who were stronger than you - He (SWT) will decide the same for you because you are not as strong as them.
(4) Conditions are from Allah (SWT). Not much voluntary about them. Leave them to Him.
(5) Keep Rabbighfir warham on your tongue. If other people suggest other things then drop my suggestion - do not burden yourself with every suggested incantation.

Love-Fear-Hope
26-04-2012, 11:30 AM
Assalamu 'alaykum wrwb,

hamdulilah today I feel better =) .. but I still need to find back the sweetness of faith I used to experience before, I need a stronger Iman;
I hope sister Iman?? is doing better too, may Allah swb increase our iman and make us satisfied with Islam. Amin.

brothers and sisters, please make du'a for me and may Allah reward you for that, with Paradise. Amin.
Jazak Allahu Khiar!

Maripat
26-04-2012, 12:08 PM
Iman is most wonderful thing in life.
It does not get eroded unless you indulge in sins for extended period.

amr123
26-04-2012, 01:13 PM
Assalamu 'alaykum wrwb,

hamdulilah today I feel better =) .. but I still need to find back the sweetness of faith I used to experience before, I need a stronger Iman;
I hope sister Iman?? is doing better too, may Allah swb increase our iman and make us satisfied with Islam. Amin.

brothers and sisters, please make du'a for me and may Allah reward you for that, with Paradise. Amin.
Jazak Allahu Khiar!

:salam:

Recite the Quran abundantly. Even if you have difficulty it doesn't matter. You will get twice the reward for trying. It doesn't matter even if you don't understand. Just open the Quran and start reciting. If you don't know how to recite, then listen to the recitation. :insh: it will help you.