Surah 2 verse 62

[flowerpower]

I started to read the Qu'ran a wghile ago because it upset me to think that perhaps it is as blood thirsty as people made out, S2 62 played my mind to rest however when i discussed this with my Musluim friend she got very angry that i was suggesting what the verse imo was suggesting which was that Christians, Jews and Muslims will go to heaven.

She told me i was 'interpretting it wrong', but i didnt interpret anything, i just read it how it is. Hardly anybody knows or is aware about this verse, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT ISLAM IS OUT TO DIMINISH ALL OTHER RELIGIONS.

thank you in advance

[Kareem]

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

you did interpet the verse wrong, it doesnt refer to current jews and christians. it refers to those christians and jews who truly followed their prophets peace be upon them in their times. those who believed in the doctrine and followed the laws that were taught to them by Jesus and Moses peace be upon them. the doctrine they teached was the same doctrine Islam teaches, some prophets brang a new law but the doctrine was the same. those who followed the original Tawrat and Injil (gospel) were believers. and those are the ones whom the verse refers to.

but man corrupted these scriptures (trinity and other distortions in beliefs and laws), the jews and christians you will find now today are not the same as those who truly followed their prophet.

when Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him came, it was obligatory for them to follow him since he is a true prophet. to be a believer you must accept all prophets. Islam obrogated all other religions (remember the doctrine was the same).

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” (Al `Imran: 85)

[flowerpower]

i in fact didnt interpret the verse wrong

you have made several heavy handed assumptions such as:

- ALL Christians follow 'infiltrated' Bibles
- i read the verse believing it to refer to obviously infiltrated parts of Christianity

and you in your answer have ignored the part that simply says

'those who believe'

thank you for ur reply

[Shaykhs-Pir Sahib]

as salamu alaykum

but let us not forget the classification of Imam al-Ghazali, himself a mujtahid imam, and hujja:

1. those non-muslims who have received a pristine message of islam and chosen to reject it. yes indeed they are destined for Hell-fire - there is no doubting this, and there will always be people belonging to this category.

2. those who have not received the message of Islam - they are not to be punished in anyway because of the verse stating that Allah does not punish until He sends a messenger. this category would apply moreso to pre-islamic times. there is a weak hadith which states that such people will be tested in the Hereafter (correct me if i am wrong).

3. those who have received a distorted message of islam. these people are also not accountable. and many contemporary scholars have included the people of today into this category... it does not need explanation.

..Shaykh Hamza Yusuf stated that this, in his opinion, is the most correct understanding when we truly understand the Mercy of the Most-Merciful.

[Shaykhs-Pir Sahib]

you have made several heavy handed assumptions such as:

- ALL Christians follow 'infiltrated' Bibles


with all due respect, there is no telling what is true and what is false in the Bible. The original 'Injil' or Gospel is non-existent, and gospels of Mark, Luke, Matthew and John were all written after Jesus lived.

in addition, the translations of the Bible into various languages and translations of various sects have led to a myriad of different Bibles. this is impossible for tehe Qur'an which has been mass-transmitted.

secondly, we also believe the Torah and Psalms are also corrupted.

this is what the brother meant when he stated that.

[Kareem]

i in fact didnt interpret the verse wrong

you have made several heavy handed assumptions such as:

- ALL Christians follow 'infiltrated' Bibles
- i read the verse believing it to refer to obviously infiltrated parts of Christianity

and you in your answer have ignored the part that simply says

'those who believe'

thank you for ur reply
who can believe if they reject a prophet?

[flowerpower]

who can believe if they reject a prophet?

you again make a heavy handed assumption that those who are not Muslim have rejected the faith.

a highly naive and one dimensional outlook you have there

[Kareem]

you again make a heavy handed assumption that those who are not Muslim have rejected the faith.

a highly naive and one dimensional outlook you have there
look, you posted a question about a verse from the Qur'an. a verse you have interpreted yourself from the english translation without knowledge of any context. when was the verse revealed? what does the rest of the Qur'an say about this issue? these things are important when interpreting the Qur'an and without knowledge you simply cannot and maynot interpret it.

your interpretation is wrong because you have not taken these things into account and relied on your personal feelings.