Praying 4 Raka'ah behind a Musafir Imam?

['Abdullaah]

:salam:

In a thread, br. Abu_Uzair mentions,

"When imam is musafir (Traveller) and muqtadi are muqim in isha and Asar salat, so when muqim muqtadi stand up after imam's salam,they cant recite any thing in those 2 rakats, only stand up (like duration of 1 big aayat or 3 small aayah or 3 tasbih)."

Could someone elaborate on it and confirm this position as the official position in the Hanafi school?
Won't standing quiet for 3 tasbih require sajda sahw as per one of the things that require sajda sahw?
What is the reason for not reciting behind Imam after his salams?

:jazak:
:salam:

[kakarot_999]

Salaamu alaiykum
I have no knowledge whatsoever but I will speak on experience. Normally, I thought whoever is musafir doesn't lead the salah but tells others to, even if he is the most knowledgeable and suitable, and he prays like the imam does (i.e. 4). That's experience though.

['Abdullaah]

Salaamu alaiykum
I have no knowledge whatsoever but I will speak on experience. Normally, I thought whoever is musafir doesn't lead the salah but tells others to, even if he is the most knowledgeable and suitable, and he prays like the imam does (i.e. 4). That's experience though.

:salam:

It may happen that a jama'at of only Musafirs was started in a park, and few local brothers happened to join. That is one possible scenario.
:jazak:

:salam:

['Abdullaah]

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[kakarot_999]

:salam:

It may happen that a jama'at of only Musafirs was started in a park, and few local brothers happened to join. That is one possible scenario.
:jazak:

:salam:
Well in that case, it's not the imam's fault or the other musafirs that are praying behind him. The brothers should have probably known better.

[hope1]

:salam:

In a thread, br. Abu_Uzair mentions,

"When imam is musafir (Traveller) and muqtadi are muqim in isha and Asar salat, so when muqim muqtadi stand up after imam's salam,they cant recite any thing in those 2 rakats, only stand up (like duration of 1 big aayat or 3 small aayah or 3 tasbih)."

Could someone elaborate on it and confirm this position as the official position in the Hanafi school?
Won't standing quiet for 3 tasbih require sajda sahw as per one of the things that require sajda sahw?
What is the reason for not reciting behind Imam after his salams?

:jazak:
:salam:

Assalamu alaikum,

The above opinion is the correct opinion. InshaAllah brother if possible we should meet. We can discuss ijara loans/ other Islamic finance and this issue in detail. I have studied this topic to death. I had two sleepless nights regarding this. I actually practiced this once.

['Abdullaah]

Well in that case, it's not the imam's fault or the other musafirs that are praying behind him. The brothers should have probably known better.

:salam:

That is not what the question asked brother.
:jazak:

:salam:

['Abdullaah]

The above opinion is the correct opinion.

:salam:

How exactly is that supposed to work though?
I would just get up after Musafir imam's salam and stay silent? Won't that require sajda sahw for the ruling of sajda-sawh-being-necessary-for-staying-silent?

Is this masla discussed in Heavenly Ornaments?
:jazak:
:salam:

[hope1]

The reason for not reciting is that you are still considered to be following the imam as one who joined the imam from the beginning. If you joined in the beginning and were praying 3rd and 4th behind the imam then there would be no recitation. This is the same case. You are not one who is making up some missed rakats in which case recitation is required/sunnah.

As for sajda-e-sahw, that's another masala requiring more explanation.

[hope1]

The rule for sajda-e-sahw for being silent does not apply to ruku, sajda and the rakats of fardh salaat after the first sitting.

Applies to all other places.

Yes all this is in Beheshti.