Doubts / Clarification ON Tablighi Jamat

[AbdAllah313]

Asslamualykum Wa Rehamtullahi Wa Barkatuhu....

Dear Brother's and Sister's If you have any doubts about work of Tablig Jamat ask your questions inshaallah will try to answer it from Quran and HADIS...

[sabm90]

So you're from what country?

[Ahmed]

Asslamualykum Wa Rehamtullahi Wa Barkatuhu....

Dear Brother's and Sister's If you have any doubts about work of Tablig Jamat ask your questions inshaallah will try to answer it from Quran and HADIS...

alhamdulillah there are already many threads on the validity and importance of the effort of dawah

[elusive]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?

[Ahmed]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

[xs11ax]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?

:salam:

1) i dont think this is meant to be taken as absolute. by this people are just trying to say that success will come through the help of Allah, and if a person remembers Allah attentively and makes dua for the ghusht then inshallah the effects of the ghusht will be better.

2) what about it?

3) i dont think anyone has attributed this method to the Prophet :saw: . it is just a method employed to make sure every muslim in the community is visited without missing anyone out. without having a organised system like this many people would fall through the net.

4) please clarify which dream you are talking about.

5) people can read any reliable book they like when they are not in jamaat according to the level of their own knowledge. but in jamaat you have many different people with many differing levels of understanding. if there was no system of reading a particular book then people would bring in all sorts of books which may not be suitable for everyone at best, and which may even be deviant books at worse.

also fazail amaal was actually written and compiled with the activities of tabligh jamaat in mind so it is the best book to be read in jamaat.

[xs11ax]

i have a question...

why do tablighis call those sathis who die in jamaat shuhada, but then wash their body and wrap them in the death shroud when this is not meant to be done for shuhada?

[AbdAllah313]

So you're from what country?

I am from India

[AbdAllah313]

because he died in path of Allah whoever died in the path of Allah he is shaheed

i have a question...

why do tablighis call those sathis who die in jamaat shuhada, but then wash their body and wrap them in the death shroud when this is not meant to be done for shuhada?

[elusive]

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

I have spent my 40 days in the UK from Dewsbury Markaz - these are questions which I have ignored and never been on my mind or were doubts. But they were just questions that have cropped up time to time which I though since this thread was opened would be a good time to ask.

Lets face it bro - most tablighi brother will not know the answer to these questions

[AbdAllah313]

salam brother

I am actually a tablighi aswell and spent 40 a few times but some friends and family have asked questions that I have no answer for

1) when they say that the person in zikr is like the battery of the gasht and if not done properly the gasht will be not proper
2) person staying for zikr in the masjid during gasht
3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh
4) did the prophet pbuh or sahabah ever stay in masjid except itikaaf
5) how can maulana ilyas rah "make up this work" by seeing the prophet pbuh in his dream showing him what to do?
6) why only fazail amaal or one or two other book are read only?


1) obviously who is in zikr he is asking from help from Allah if Allah's will Allah's help will not come then how the gasht is prpoer?
2) same answer because of Allah's help
3) Yes obviously our prophet did umumi gasht there are lot of refrence and sahaba also did umumi gasht fro the refrence read Taiif wakiya and for your knowlegde every aamal of tabligi jamat which our elders are saying these aamal is aamle-nubuwat .
4) yes lot of time read hayatussahaba there are number of ahadis are ther
5) because these people are chosen by Allah for this work . thats the reason
6) because if we understand the Fazail ( benifit of ammal ) the its easy to do aamal thats the reason the book name is Faizale Ammal ( Benefits of Ammal )
and we dont say dont read any other book but if you wana understand basic and benefits of aamal then this is the simple and very beneficial book

[xs11ax]

because he died in path of Allah whoever died in the path of Allah he is shaheed

so why are they given ghusl and kafan?

shuhada are not given ghusl and buried in the same clothes they got shaheed in.

[purana.paapi]

BROTHER,if you have spent 40 days a few times,and cant answer those questions,who did you spend those times with and why have you not seeked the answers to those questions before

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.



Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply

[xs11ax]

3) Yes obviously our prophet did umumi gasht there are lot of refrence and sahaba also did umumi gasht fro the refrence read Taiif wakiya and for your knowlegde every aamal of tabligi jamat which our elders are saying these aamal is aamle-nubuwat .

so the Prophet :saw: and the sahaba (rd) went door to door in an organised manner to preach to muslims?

please cite the references where they did this.

[purana.paapi]

so the Prophet :saw: and the sahaba (rd) went door to door in an organised manner to preach to muslims?

please cite the references where they did this.

Brother , Please read my post above and give your valuable input.

[AbdAllah313]

so why are they given ghusl and kafan?

shuhada are not given ghusl and buried in the same clothes they got shaheed in.

We can call him shaheed the one who do jihad thats different
for your understanding some ulema say our prophet is also shaheed but gusal kafan everything happened with prophet

[purana.paapi]

We can call him shaheed the one who do jihad thats different
for your understanding some ulema say our prophet is also shaheed but gusal kafan everything happened with prophet

Leave the brother alone & reply to my post.

Since you are the OP of this thread & took responsibility.

I am waiting.

[hansa]

Book: Tabligh Made Easy
Author: Mufti Afzal Hoosen Elias

This book concerns the proofs for the various actions that the 'Tabligh Jama'ah' carry out. An endeavour has been made to prove every action from the sources of Shari'ah.

It is hoped that the booklet dispels the doubts of those who have objections against the 'Tabligh Movement.'

The booklet is also beneficial for those who are engaged in the effort.



http://myummah.co.za/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tabligh-jamaat-made-easy.pdf

[xs11ax]

there is no doubt that the organisation started by moulana ilyas (ra) is an amazing organisation and has reached and benefited muslims throughout the world and continues to this day mashallah.

and this organisation resembles the sunnah more than any other tabligh organisation of today.

but that does not mean that everything that is done in this organisation is taken directly from the sunnah - and everything does not need to be taken directly from the sunnah as long as it does not go against the sunnah. for example, faxing details of the karguzari to the relevant markaz. the correct sunnah manner would be to dispatch a rider on a horse to convey the message to the markaz. now there is nothing wrong with using a fax machine, and it makes sense to use a fax machine as it makes things easier, but there is no need to try and argue that this is part of the sunnah. or you can use the sunnah method which is to dispatch a rider on a horse if you like.

[xs11ax]

Brother , Please read my post above and give your valuable input.

I will do later inshallah when i have more time. Taking kids to the library now.

[Abu_Uzair]

i have a question...

why do tablighis call those sathis who die in jamaat shuhada, but then wash their body and wrap them in the death shroud when this is not meant to be done for shuhada?

hazrat,this is very simple bcoz there are 2 types of shaheed,haqiqi(real)- who died in qitaal and urfi(not original but shariah called him shaheed,also called him shaheed e ukhrawi)
i m searching 1 sppech of shaikh hanif sb aout this,,ia will send u asap

[Abu_Uzair]

assalamu alaykum

moulana abu-uzair sahib. Can i quote the example of a pregnant woman when she dies during delivering the child and a person on journey to haj or umrah.

yes this is type of 2nd no shahadah,

[Abu_Uzair]

Assalamu alaykum

Moulana Abu-uzair sahib. Can I quote the example of a pregnant woman when she dies during delivering the child and a person on journey to haj or umrah.

more examples are
one who dies of plague (or an epidemic), one who dies of a stomach illness, one who is burnt to death, one who dies under debris (of a fallen building)

[PirBaba]

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.



Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply

Salam u alaikum beloved brother,

In tableegh the elders have designed it in such a way where a person does a bit of mujahida and goes against his nafse for the sake of Allah, and it is hoped that inshAllah Allah Tala will then open the doors of hidayat and increase his iman/yaqeen.

To leave your home and family behind sort of gives you a tiny bit of taste of the sacrifices Sahaba gave. Sahaba would leave their families behind in the face of Death/Shahadat, whereas in tableegh all that is asked is to leave behind families for few days for the sake of Allah. The aim is to get people out of their daily life routine and provide them with an enviornment where they can focus on building strong yaqeen in Allah and also pondering over the fact that as muslims there is also a responsibility upon our shoulders to convey this message to the whole of mankind.

For a person to go out in Jammat, and especially for longer periods, a mashwara is done, and if it is evident that due to any sharee reason it is not okay for brother to leave then the elders do not let such a person go out in Jammat. This personally happened with me also.

There is no doubt that when you are involved in tableegh, it doesnt mean that you become an angel right away, infact tazkiya is a life long process that whether youre involved in the work of Dawa or not, one has to continously do it. Its not an option or a separate thing, it is a must for every muslim.

Similarly, the right fikr for the ummat and then taking action for it according to your capability is also a must. So Taleem, Tableegh and Tazkia, all three have to be done at the same time. Yes the degree of involvement may vary acorss people, but every one should do all three to reach higher level of Ihsan.

Like every mashaikh has some tarteeb how they do islah of their mureeds, similarly the mashaikh of tableegh has a tarteeb based on quran and sunnah and if followed , much benefit comes out of it. There will always be errors made by workers involved in the work, but that is because they are bashar and prone to mistakes, just like it takes a while for a mureed to rectify his faults and then after years and years of mujahida he becomes a kamil, and then there are some who dont make it. Same is the case here. But aslong as we keep striving with sincerity and ikhlas, inshAllah results will improve.


Regarding your certain other queries i will let other brothers to answer, because some of those issues i have never faced. But like i said, tableegh's work is all over the world now, the brothers in Brazil have different iklaq and dynamics than brother in a city in India. So in this work we have to overlook each others nitty gritty faults and keep the main focus on bringing the 6 qualities/points in our lives ,giving dawa and reminders of the 6 points to our muslims brothers. In reality the akabir of tableegh only wish the unity of ummah , overlooking each others maslak, faults madhabs etc.

The need of the hour is to help and remind each other collectively to hold on tight to the way of the Prophet S.w and Sahaba, and all ulema, mashaikh, people of tasawuff, people of tableegh, madaris are working towards this one goal.

Wasalam

[shiyamhoda]

:salam:


1) why do i need to go in jamaat .
Because being an ummati of Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasalllam you have global responsibilities.


2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???
You and your family have to realise that in reality its Allah only who looks after your family with or without you.


3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.
I dont have knowledge about that, guess we need to ask ulama.


4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

Again ummate muhammad sallalahu alaihi wasallam have global obligations.


5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.
Sahaba wont recognize muslims of today as muslims.

May be this will help a little. Also listen to the speech which Maulana Abu Uzair Sahab posted about tabligi jamaat by Shaykh Mumtazul Haq Sahab.

:jazak:
:ws:

[Servant.of.Allah]

There is nothing called TABLIGH JAMAAT. Its the duty of the ummah which has to be done everyday.

TJ has a tartheeb like 3 days, 40 days, 4 months. If Sahabas are present now, they would have got very angry with the TJ who spend very less time for the Deen.
Alhamdulillah, Moulana Ilyas R.A has revived this work of deen in India. It was already in place for several hundred years in India, a good example is -
For next several hundred years there is no worries for Indian muslims as their forefathers have setup the system in a better way, our janazas, our masjids, our madarasas, the wakf, Shaira, other things....etc.

AGAIN - If in India, we dont do this work with humbleness, hope of Allah, fear of Allah - then our future generation is in trouble.
Nowadays I see my own muslims brothers and sisters are going away form Islam.

Similarly alhamdulillah Muslims are growing in US, its their duty now.
They must stop thinking they came to make Money in US. Wallahi, If the persian/arab traders thought the same way - My forefathers and me would have been in Kufr. Its our duty in US to establish this work and help our generation for the next 1000 years. Insha Allah brothers, dont start tomorrow - Start right now,

do ibadah, dhirk, go out in the path of Allah - spend maximum time.
Alhamdulillah u ll see the results

[shiyamhoda]

A copy paste from Tablighi jamaat Made Easy

“Why does the Tabligh Jamaat go mostly to
Muslims.”

Why does Tabligh Jamaat preach, teach, talk, and walk amongst
mostly Muslims. Firstly, many times the Tabligh Jamaat because of
their conspicuous nature have to work and give Da'wah to non-
Muslims. This happens at bus stops, railway platforms, airport areas
and on the road.

Secondly, when someone is doing well in accordance to the Shari'ah,
then allow them to carry on. No one is stopping one from giving
Da'wah to non-Muslims provided one knows the Shar'i requirements
and perimeters for this important responsibility.

Thirdly, in the Shari'ah we have many examples to prove that
teaching, learning and advising Muslims was done.

1.) Allaah instructs reminding because reminding is beneficial
for the Muslims: Allaah says:
Continue advising because advice is beneficial for the Mu'mineen. {Surah
Dhaariyaat, verse 55}

So advise because advice is beneficial. {Surah A'la, verse 9}

The Mu'mineen men and the Mu'mineen women are supporters (helpers,
protectors) of each other. They command (others and each other to do) good,
prevent evil, establish salaah, pay zakaah and obey Allaah and His Rasool .
These are the ones on whom Allaah shall soon shower mercy. Verily Allaah is
Mighty, The Wise. {Surah Taubah, verse 71}
From here it is clear that the reminding, advising,
admonishing is done by Muslims for Muslims.

2.) The gathering of Muslims at Darul Arqam for learning,
teaching, advising and practising was done by Muslims, for
Muslims. Here the Ameer was none other than Nabi .1

3.) The sending of Hadhrat Mus'ab bin Umayr to Madinah to
teach Muslims.2

4.) The sending of Hadhrat Mu’aadh bin Jabal (R.A) to Yemen, as
a governor, guide and teacher for the Muslims.3

5.) Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Mas’ood narrated Ahadeeth once or
twice a week to those gathered in Masjid e Nabawi .4

6.) Hadhrat Abu Hurayrah used to stand near the mimbar
(pulpit) of Masjid e Nabawi once a week and narrate
Ahadeeth.5

7.) Hadhrat Tameem Daari used to narrate Ahadeeth before
the Jumu'ah Khutba every Jumu'ah.6 (From this one we prove
also that the lecture is given prior to Jumuah Khutba in many
countries).

8.) Hadhrat Umar sent Hadhrat Abu Dardaa to Shaam to teach
the Qur'aan and Sunnah to the people.7
9.) The Mufassireen, Muhadditheen and the Ustaads in all Darul
Ulooms as well as the Mashaa'ikh in Khanqahs teach, study,
educate, advise and admonish Muslims.

10.) Rasulullaah once dispatched a group of six Sahabah to
teach the people of a tribe that had accepted Islaam. These
Sahabah were however waylaid at a place called Raj'ee.1

11.) There is a Hadith in which states, ”convey, perhaps the
listener understands more than the speaker”.2 This also
refers to Muslims to Muslims. The Muhaaditheen (scholars
and compilers of Ahadeeth themselves state that although
they are compilers, the ‘fuqahaa’ (jurists) understand the
meaning in greater depths.3

12.) There is an extremely important Hadith which states ‘convey
from me, even if it be an Aayat”.4 This is so general that
Muslim and non-Muslims can be inferred there from.

13.) This single Hadith is sufficient to relate most, if not all
objections regarding Dawat and Tabligh.

[purana.paapi]

Can you guys believe this ?

My previous post was around the time of asr and Just now returned from the Markaz with my dad after praying Maghrib.

My dad was like full of praises of TJ while driving the car ,Telling me the efforts of Deobandis , TJ , His favorite line is

"Joh Kaam Maulana Ilyas ra ki jamaat ne karke dikhaya hai woh koi aur dikhade" at such a large scale.

I felt happy in my heart and a bit angry too . May be i couldn't take too much praise of TJ brother's:D

He was also telling me some sad stories of markaz here which i felt bad , jeeez am i getting a soft corner for TJ:D

Hmmmm lets see

[xs11ax]

[FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?


on the surface your routine sounds about right, but not every muslim has the good fortune like yourself to have taufeeq to do these things. thats were tabligh jamaat comes in. if it was not for tabligh jamaat, many muslims would have strayed away from islam. tabligh jamaat is like the shepherd gathering together and looking after his flock. just recently a very active tablighi friend of mine (with his wife) brought a sister back to islam who had turned to prostitution. if muslims were not active in tabligh jamaat then many people like this sister would have no one to make concern and effort on their iman.




1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

personally i believe that you dont have to go in jamaat, but if you do then you have great potential to benefit yourself and others. yes there are other organisations for doing this, but tabligh jamaat is the organisation that follows the sunnah more closely than the others.


2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???.

everything in islam has to have a balance. parents, children, wives, employers, employees, your ownself, Allah, His Rasool :saw:, the deen etc all have rights upon you. some have more, some have less, some have differing rights depending on the situation. this balance should be achieved by taking the situation into consideration and making mashwera with those concerned and your elders.


3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

depends on your intention for going to such places and whether you are strong enough not to become part of that fitnah.

my jamaat was in america and we went for ghusht in a pool bar where they had music and alcohol. our intention was not to become part of the fitnah, but to try and bring muslims who were part of the fitnah back to the masjid. there was one brother there who after much effort grudgingly came back with us to the masjid. when he sat down in the masjid he started crying and thanking us for forcefully bringing him to the masjid. he told us he hadnt been to the masjid for around 10 years. may Allah bless him.


4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places..

tabligh jamaat is not just about preaching and helping others, in fact it is primarily about rectifying and helping your ownself. the concept beind leaving your home and city/country is to take oneself away from all the distractions and problems of ones own home so you can concentrate on your own rectification and inviting others.


5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.
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the primary concern of tabligh jamaat is not to convert non muslims to muslim, it is to bring back muslims to the deen. im sure you have seen the effect of this everywhere. in fact you are chatting with someone that came back to the deen due to the efforts of tabligh jamaat.





Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

because they are not following the teachings of Moulana Ilyas (ra) and tabligh jamaat properly. this is not the fault of the effort. it is the fault of the people who are active in the effort. i have argued many times with people like these.


Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.


what do you mean by ijtama?

[xs11ax]

hazrat,this is very simple bcoz there are 2 types of shaheed,haqiqi(real)- who died in qitaal and urfi(not original but shariah called him shaheed,also called him shaheed e ukhrawi)
i m searching 1 sppech of shaikh hanif sb aout this,,ia will send u asap

:salam:

:jazak: Moulana Saheb. You are right.

The only problem i have is when someone tries to play down the shaheed who has been martyred in jihad qitaal.

[Abu_Uzair]

Assalamu alaykum



Br xs11ax let me reply to this.

This is regarding weekly taleem gathering for ladies.

A very near translation of a story.


Once Syeduna Umar RA was speaking to his wife at a semi dark place, some one walked nearby and saw them. Syeduna Umar RA called him and said "This is my wife". the person told "You are khaleefa, who can doubt you". Syeduna Umar said I don't want to create doubts in your mind.

Similarly a person keeps a TV, can the ladies in the house convince everyone in the locality what they are watching is not haraam.

Secondly think of a scenario, an ordinary muslim has convinced his family to remove TV from their house, the family tell the person "How about such an such house where weekly taleem is held and they have the TV". The very purpose of taleem is lost.

ok

[Abu_Uzair]

Assalamu alaykum

Moulana I have edited the post. Is the story correct now.

yes

[purana.paapi]

Assalamu alaykum



Br xs11ax let me reply to this.

This is regarding weekly taleem gathering for ladies.

A very near translation of a story.


Once Rasulullah SAS was speaking to ummul momineen at a semi dark place, some one walked nearby and saw them. Rasulullah SAS called him and said "This is my wife". the person told "You are!!! who can doubt you". Rasulullah SAS said I don't want to create doubts in your mind.

Similarly a person keeps a TV, can the ladies in the house convince everyone in the locality what they are watching is not haraam.

Secondly think of a scenario, an ordinary muslim has convinced his family to remove TV from their house, the family tell the person "How about such an such house where weekly taleem is held and they have the TV". The very purpose of taleem is lost.

Brother , what if it is used for news and watching channels like discovery etc by which one gains knowledge.
also you havn't mentioned anything about the internet.

which i see as more dangerous than tv as i mentioned in my post above.

[Abu Zakir]

A couple of criticisms of TJ I have heard.

1) Going to stay in a masjid is bida not sunnah (only done in Ramadan in the local masjid).

2) TJ people are ignorant of Fiqh, even high level TJs have a poor knowledge of the deen.

They make the deen very narrow as if only TJ is the right way, all other teachings are ignored. They never teach about setting up Islamic markets, creating a leader who will collect Zakaat from the community....all these other aspects of the deen are ignored as if they do not exist...and therefore the deen itself just becomes what TJ talks about. After all these years Muslims collectively are still without sunnah markets, currency and khilafah and TJ has done nothing to bring these about.

3) Many men go into TJ and neglect their families, put burdens on their wives and avoid their fatherly duties...the excuse of TJ...a camping trip with buddies is a great way to do this. For example the woman has to cope with 3/4 little kids, while the husband goes off to jammat...relaxing and enjoying himself with his buddies as if he is really sacrificing something when they prefer this to being at home and helping with the kids.

[PirBaba]

The first two criticism are out of ignorance and not understanding what the goal of the work is.

The third criticism is not the fault of the work, its the escapist attitude and ghafla on behalf of individuals. Tableegh does not teach you to do that. just like islam doesnt preach to go to extremes or be unreasonable, its the individual muslims who commit and yes a bad name is brought on to Islam. Same thing applies here.

[Abu Zakir]

Its not goals they are criticising it is the means. The goals of TJ are to bring nominal Muslims back to the deen through staying in masjids away from the normal society for a short time, to rectify oneself and to invite others to do the same. And there may well be some progress in this with many individuals and families becoming more deeni. However Islam is not just a private secular religion, where individuals try to live religious lives while the markets and governments are run according to non religious laws. And TJ does not address this aspect of the deen, the senior members of TJ should be establishing real jamaats in the real world, where communities of Musllims live under one leader or Amir who governs them and guides them towards living as a community under shariah. TJs are just happy with the way things are with self rectification of individuals as the only goal.




The first two criticism are out of ignorance and not understanding what the goal of the work is.

The third criticism is not the fault of the work, its the escapist attitude and ghafla on behalf of individuals. Tableegh does not teach you to do that. just like islam doesnt preach to go to extremes or be unreasonable, its the individual muslims who commit and yes a bad name is brought on to Islam. Same thing applies here.

[PirBaba]

Its not goals they are criticising it is the means. The goals of TJ are to bring nominal Muslims back to the deen through staying in masjids away from the normal society for a short time, to rectify oneself and to invite others to do the same. And there may well be some progress in this with many individuals and families becoming more deeni. However Islam is not just a private secular religion, where individuals try to live religious lives while the markets and governments are run according to non religious laws. And TJ does not address this aspect of the deen, the senior members of TJ should be establishing real jamaats in the real world, where communities of Musllims live under one leader or Amir who governs them and guides them towards living as a community under shariah. TJs are just happy with the way things are with self rectification of individuals as the only goal.

Salam dear brother,

What the goal of the TJ tarteeb is from my understanding is when lay people will become conscious of Allah SWT and his commands, then no matter which walk of life they are from , what ever field they are from, they will implement shariah in their lives and work. And we have seen this over and over again. A person who was a doctor, lawyer, government officer , banker etc, after becoming religious and conscious of Allah through going out in jammat, changed his non-islamic ways within his field. So many business men who i have found out about, before going in tableegh were involved in Riba, after jammat, they went back to their businesses, cleaned them off of Riba. So there are practical implications of tableegh, and the result of it can be seen in society.

So yes the goal is to ultimately have islamic authority and legislation implemented across the Muslim societies, but to reach there first we need some masses of the society who are ready from their heart and soul to follow shariah. When a large number of people will want shariah themselves , then it will just be matter of time , because when the politician becomes religious, when the policeman becomes religious, when the ministers become religious, then automatically your system will become religious, and these people will themselves bring shariah.

Currently the reality is mostly people are not even praying their Salah, how can they get ready to follow few individuals who get up and say we are now implementing shariah. The outcome will be resistance and only resistance. So first we have to engage ourselves with people, and for that we need their attention, we need to get them out of their daily routine of Duniya, and try to remind them of the higher realities and about Who our Allah is.

This is from what i have understood, offcourse doors of discussion are open, whether Tableeghi Jammat has been successful on their methodology or not, people whose lives have changed through it will always acknowledge that, but then we have a great number of religious people in our community who became religious without getting involved in Tableegh and they might be even better practicing than some tableeghi brothers and which is fine Alhamdulilah. Because the goal is not to create a jammat the goal is people become practicing muslims and the hidaya is in the hands of Allah. Who ever he wishes to give , through whatever means.

Every work of deen has benefit in it, every one is trying. I think there should be only cooperation and help to each other. If Tableeghi work is failing to address some issues, then inshAllah some people should work towards addressing those issues, and simultaneously support the work of tableegh as it is addressing other areas.

Wasalam

[umairel]

I have a question,
why in tableeghi marakiz/ ijtimas, loud speaker is not used in namaz and azan?

[Abu Zakir]

WS

Yes I understand that individual Muslims are being brought towards Islam and this is useful towards establishing khilafah. However TJ is failing by not teaching about the bigger picture of establishing government. Many TJs or most of them even are very limited in their outlook. Yes they have removed riba from their own business but the whole market is based on riba, to change this, the sunnah way is to establish an Amir who will collect Zakaat from local Muslims, they will re-establish Silver and Gold currencies, they will then start to trade in gold and silver and by-pass the state and its riba laws...these Muslims will be giveb huge baraaka and victory by Allah swt because they have applied the sunnah to establish the halal, others will want to join.

Shariah laws will be accepted by people because they bring prosperity to the ummah and humanity and the evidence will be in front of the eyes. The sahaba attracted converts because their way of doing business was also very fair, they wrote off the debts and taxes that people owed to their non Muslim rulers, so people loved Islam. This is the same Islam today that we need to establish, people will love it and embrace it, even lapsed Muslims once they see that Islam brings peace, security and prosperity in the dunya and insha Allah in the akhira as well.







Salam dear brother,

What the goal of the TJ tarteeb is from my understanding is when lay people will become conscious of Allah SWT and his commands, then no matter which walk of life they are from , what ever field they are from, they will implement shariah in their lives and work. And we have seen this over and over again. A person who was a doctor, lawyer, government officer , banker etc, after becoming religious and conscious of Allah through going out in jammat, changed his non-islamic ways within his field. So many business men who i have found out about, before going in tableegh were involved in Riba, after jammat, they went back to their businesses, cleaned them off of Riba. So there are practical implications of tableegh, and the result of it can be seen in society.

So yes the goal is to ultimately have islamic authority and legislation implemented across the Muslim societies, but to reach there first we need some masses of the society who are ready from their heart and soul to follow shariah. When a large number of people will want shariah themselves , then it will just be matter of time , because when the politician becomes religious, when the policeman becomes religious, when the ministers become religious, then automatically your system will become religious, and these people will themselves bring shariah.

Currently the reality is mostly people are not even praying their Salah, how can they get ready to follow few individuals who get up and say we are now implementing shariah. The outcome will be resistance and only resistance. So first we have to engage ourselves with people, and for that we need their attention, we need to get them out of their daily routine of Duniya, and try to remind them of the higher realities and about Who our Allah is.

This is from what i have understood, offcourse doors of discussion are open, whether Tableeghi Jammat has been successful on their methodology or not, people whose lives have changed through it will always acknowledge that, but then we have a great number of religious people in our community who became religious without getting involved in Tableegh and they might be even better practicing than some tableeghi brothers and which is fine Alhamdulilah. Because the goal is not to create a jammat the goal is people become practicing muslims and the hidaya is in the hands of Allah. Who ever he wishes to give , through whatever means.

Every work of deen has benefit in it, every one is trying. I think there should be only cooperation and help to each other. If Tableeghi work is failing to address some issues, then inshAllah some people should work towards addressing those issues, and simultaneously support the work of tableegh as it is addressing other areas.

Wasalam

[PirBaba]

WS

Yes I understand that individual Muslims are being brought towards Islam and this is useful towards establishing khilafah. However TJ is failing by not teaching about the bigger picture of establishing government. Many TJs or most of them even are very limited in their outlook. Yes they have removed riba from their own business but the whole market is based on riba, to change this, the sunnah way is to establish an Amir who will collect Zakaat from local Muslims, they will re-establish Silver and Gold currencies, they will then start to trade in gold and silver and by-pass the state and its riba laws...these Muslims will be giveb huge baraaka and victory by Allah swt because they have applied the sunnah to establish the halal, others will want to join.

Shariah laws will be accepted by people because they bring prosperity to the ummah and humanity and the evidence will be in front of the eyes. The sahaba attracted converts because their way of doing business was also very fair, they wrote off the debts and taxes that people owed to their non Muslim rulers, so people loved Islam. This is the same Islam today that we need to establish, people will love it and embrace it, even lapsed Muslims once they see that Islam brings peace, security and prosperity in the dunya and insha Allah in the akhira as well.

Salam u alaikum,

Respected brother you are right that there is a bigger picture and muslims should work towards that, but you are failing to understand that tableeghi jammat and muslims at the moment are not in the position to do anything about that. Not only tableegh, infact no muslim community has managed to succeed in what you are pointing at. And if you look deeper into the reason for that , it is the weak faith of ours, we are lazy to even catch our five times salah in the mosque, how do you expect that such great islamic political and economic systems will come into existence. Tableegh is a very basic effort, of getting our basics right first. Tableegh doesnt make one scholor or a muslim thinker or a muslim leader, all its job is to get ones basic and fundamentals right. And once that is done at a large scale then it is hoped that doors will be open by Allah and those bigger achievements that you are talking would be granted.

Tableegh cant be perfect, its an effort started by imperfect people in the first place. But its an effort to reach to excellence . The people involved in it are imperfect, but they try to reach excellence. So its just an effort to get our basics right first.

Again i agree there can be discussion about its imperfection, because it is being done by bashars who are imperfect, but at the moment the achievements that you speak at such large scale, no one has been able to do that and there are reasons for that. But we cant wait for those achievements to happen and then improve our religious and spiritual states. We cant wait for a caliph to appear and an islamic empire to emerge and then improve our selves and go to remind other people to start establishing your salah and develop all the other 6 qualities. Some people feel no matter we have the authority and systems in place or not, we must remind ourselves to hold on tight to the basics atleast.

Wasalam

[sabm90]

because he died in path of Allah whoever died in the path of Allah he is shaheed

In the path of Allah u mean 'fi sabi lillah'?

[شعيب‎ محمد]

Assalamu alaykum

One has the right to have difference of opinion depending on once own ijitahaad.

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A question was asked to Mufti Mahmoodul Hasan Saheb Gangohi Rahmatullahi alayha.

Q: Whether going in Tableeghi Jamaat and inviting people towards salah is jihaad?

Reply: Jihaad is to take pains and put efforts for deen. There are many forms of it, what Tableeg Jamaath is practising is one among them. The best jehaad is to offer their lives and get accepted in the path of Allah SWT; which is possible only in qitaal with enemies of Islam.

Alharar alabd Mahmood gafarlahu; Darul Uloom Deoband 24/1/88 AH,
extracts from Fatawah Mahmoodiyah, vol.12 page 235-250)
:salam:

I think the opinions will be according to the situation of the time, person's condition, etc ?

Who has doubts about tableeghi jamat should read Tableeghi Jamat aur Uski Sharaai Haisiyath (by Moulana Zakarriyya Sahab Rahmatullahi Alayh).

[Abu_Tamim]

salam brother

3) amumi gasht - was this ever done by the prophet pbuh


The Prophet :saw: invited the leaders as well as the common people of various tribes to Islam. He went to the fairs of Ukaz, Dhu'l Majaz and Majanna, reciting the Qur'an to the tribesmen and inviting them to islam. Similarly during Hajj, the Prophet :saw: would visit various tribes and invite them to Islam. That is how the first Madinans reverted to Islam. Read any biography of the Prophet.
:ws:

[Abu_Tamim]

@xs11ax:

The Meaning of Shaheed

By Mufti Taqi Usmani

Q.) The word "Shaheed" has been frequently used in the books, newspapers, and magazines for different types of people. I am sure that this word should have a specific connotation in the Islamic Terminology. I will be grateful if you please explain the true meaning of this word and the categories of persons for whom this term may be applied in Shariah.

A.) In fact "Shaheed", is a specific term, used in the Holy Quran and Sunnah. It has certainly a specific meaning and one should be careful before applying this term to a person and you should ascertain whether he is really qualified to be called a "Shaheed."

According to Islamic Jurisprudence, "Shaheed" is of two kinds:

Shaheed in the real sense.
Shaheed in the constructive sense.

Shaheed in the real sense is a Muslim who has been killed during "Jihad" or has been killed by any person unjustly. Such a person has two characteristics different from common people who die on their bed. Firstly, he should be buried without giving him a ritual bath. However, the prayer of the Janazah shall be offered on him and he shall also be given a proper kafin (burial shroud). Secondly, he will deserve a great reward in the Hereafter and it is hoped that Allah Almighty shall forgive his sins and admit him to Jannah. It is also stated in some of the traditions that the body of such a person remains in the grave protected from contamination or dissolution.

As compared to this kind of "Shaheed" a Shaheed in a constructive sense is a person who has been promised by the Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam to get a reward of a Shaheed in the Hereafter but is not taken as Shaheed with regard to the rules of burial. It means that the dead body has to be bathed like a dead body of any other person. The Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam has included in this category of Shaheed a large number of persons such as a person who has died in a Plague or who has died in an unexpected accident, like a fire or a traffic accident or who has been drowned in the water or a woman who has died during the delivery of her child etc.

Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, a well-known scholar of Islamic disciplines, has collected all the Hadiths relating to this kind of Shaheed and has come to the conclusion that there are thirty categories mentioned by the Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam who can deserve to be called Shaheed in this sense. But in the normal course, the word "Shaheed" is applied only for the first kind. However, it is not prohibited to use the word for a person who falls in any of the categories mentioned in the second kind.

It is evident from the above discussion that the word "Shaheed" can only be used for a Muslim and cannot be applied to a non-Muslim at all. Similarly, the term cannot be used for a person who has been rightly killed as a punishment of his own offence.

albalagh.net

[Abu_Tamim]

so why are they given ghusl and kafan?

shuhada are not given ghusl and buried in the same clothes they got shaheed in.

see post 52.
:ws:

[Abu_Tamim]

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .










is there anything left ?
.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply

1. From your point of view nothing is left except changing your name from Purana Paapi to Naya Farishta and choosing which Jannah you want to stay in.

2. Please wait for a detailed reply which should come tomorrow, Inshallah. Please note that you might not like the reply.

[purana.paapi]

1. From your point of view nothing is left except changing your name from Purana Paapi to Naya Farishta and choosing which Jannah you want to stay in.

2. Please wait for a detailed reply which should come tomorrow, Inshallah. Please note that you might not like the reply.

I remain to bE purana paapi

One of the bro already gave me a book "tableegh made easy"

And it did convince me . May Allah reward the brother. I saved it and insshallah wwill be forwarding to my friends who have doubts about TJ

But 2nd part is still left . TV vs Internet

I would be waiting for your reply on that part.

[purana.paapi]

Book: Tabligh Made Easy
Author: Mufti Afzal Hoosen Elias

This book concerns the proofs for the various actions that the 'Tabligh Jama'ah' carry out. An endeavour has been made to prove every action from the sources of Shari'ah.

It is hoped that the booklet dispels the doubts of those who have objections against the 'Tabligh Movement.'

The booklet is also beneficial for those who are engaged in the effort.



http://myummah.co.za/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tabligh-jamaat-made-easy.pdf

Thank You very much bro
I just finished reading your book
I understand that giving dawah to muslims too is my duty.
But still the second part TV vs internet remains.

Inshallah I will forward the book to my friends too.
May be we can have a revised version of TJ
Modern TJ equipped with latest tech to reach the masses and increase knowledge of the masses and combat the deviant sects.

Just 6 points won't do.
MArkaz should be equipped with internet , projectorsN live bayans from various TJ elders with Q/A session.

[Badrud_Duja]

Thank You very much bro
I just finished reading your book
I understand that giving dawah to muslims too is my duty.
But still the second part TV vs internet remains.

Inshallah I will forward the book to my friends too.
May be we can have a revised version of TJ
Modern TJ equipped with latest tech to reach the masses and increase knowledge of the masses and combat the deviant sects.

Just 6 points won't do.
MArkaz should be equipped with internet , projectorsN live bayans from various TJ elders with Q/A session.

you dont fix something that aint broken but rather stick to the original principles set out by maulana Ilyas. 6 points is whole of TJ so thers nothing more to add. Ulamah are already using internet to reach out to the masses on various issues

[Abu_Tamim]

I remain to bE purana paapi

One of the bro already gave me a book "tableegh made easy"

And it did convince me . May Allah reward the brother. I saved it and insshallah wwill be forwarding to my friends who have doubts about TJ

But 2nd part is still left . TV vs Internet

I would be waiting for your reply on that part.

Well, there goes my answer.

TV vs Internet? What does the TJ have to do with it? Is the TJ a Dar al-Ifta?

[Abu_Tamim]

May be we can have a revised version of TJ
Modern TJ equipped with latest tech to reach the masses and increase knowledge of the masses and combat the deviant sects.

Just 6 points won't do.
MArkaz should be equipped with internet , projectorsN live bayans from various TJ elders with Q/A session.

We can call it the Zakir Naik Jamat then and equip each member with an Armani suit, a Van Heusen tie, Enroute shoes and a machine gun to do Da'wah and Jihad simultaneously.

[Abu_Tamim]

Assalamu alaykum



A similar reply given by Moulana Saad sahib to mukhlis brothers who offer to make the markaz state of art with all comforts.



The aim of TJ is to put to practice the knowledge one posses. And one can increase knowledge through other already available sources.

:thumbsup:

[purana.paapi]

We can call it the Zakir Naik Jamat then and equip each member with an Armani suit, a Van Heusen tie, Enroute shoes and a machine gun to do Da'wah and Jihad simultaneously.

No, ZN is a different case , i dont like him nor his methodology.

my ques was why do tj dont held ijtama (weekly gathering) where people have TV.

why not the same in case of Internet. im sure where i houses where they hold ijtema do have internets.

why did they leave out the internet. Dr. you kno very well internet is more harmful than TV.

[amr123]

We can call it the Zakir Naik Jamat then and equip each member with an Armani suit, a Van Heusen tie, Enroute shoes and a machine gun to do Da'wah and Jihad simultaneously.

If I would really get the Armani suit, then count me in...

[saihah]

:salam: I think TJ is a wonderful effort and I have personally benefitted immensely from it. However, there is just one thing I don't understand and noone has given me a clear answer to it.

Why do we travel from one country to another when there are more than enough people to make dawah there. for example, people from South Africa come here to the US and another group from here will go to South Africa, why don't we make dawah in our countries ourselves, that way we will save so much money on air travel and can give that moeny to the poor or use it in madarsahs or something. I always thought our responsibility is to our community first.
It makes sense when people go to countries like venezuela or brazil where this effort is needed, but i don't understand why we go to SA and India etc where there already are thousands of people involved in this work?

:jazak:

[xs11ax]

:salam:

the whole method prescribed by moulana ilyas (ra) is brilliant and if stuck to then inshallah you cannot go wrong.

the only problem i have is that most tablighi sathis are content with just the tabligh jamaat activities themselves and do not progress forward.

example - through the halqa of the last 10 surats we are meant to realise where we are going wrong in our recitation and then when returning home, finding an alim or hafiz to help us perfect our recitation. but how many of us actually do this?

[AbdAllah313]

so the Prophet :saw: and the sahaba (rd) went door to door in an organised manner to preach to muslims?

please cite the references where they did this.

Hadhrat Abu Dharr B,= reports that Hadhrat Umar %,G&&+j would grab hold of
the hands of one o r two Sahabah @F= and say, "Stand awhile with me s o that
we may renew our Imaan." They would then talk about Allaah 3 . ~ 5 2 $ ~ . ( ~ )
Hadhrat Aswad bin Hilaal reports that they were walking with Hadhrat Mu'aadh
bin Jabal % G W when he said to them, "Sit with us s o that we may believe for a
moment." (7)
) Abu Nu'ayrn In his Hilya (Vol.1 Pg.235

[AbdAllah313]

:salam: I think TJ is a wonderful effort and I have personally benefitted immensely from it. However, there is just one thing I don't understand and noone has given me a clear answer to it.

Why do we travel from one country to another when there are more than enough people to make dawah there. for example, people from South Africa come here to the US and another group from here will go to South Africa, why don't we make dawah in our countries ourselves, that way we will save so much money on air travel and can give that moeny to the poor or use it in madarsahs or something. I always thought our responsibility is to our community first.
It makes sense when people go to countries like venezuela or brazil where this effort is needed, but i don't understand why we go to SA and India etc where there already are thousands of people involved in this work?

:jazak:

Because at tje time of Our Prophet SAW and Sahaba there were same things they do ...
in Madina and Makkah also lot of sahaba were there and at time of of prophet SAW also some jamat work in Makkah and Madina and Some Jamat work out of Madina and Makkah .

[AbdAllah313]

No, ZN is a different case , i dont like him nor his methodology.

my ques was why do tj dont held ijtama (weekly gathering) where people have TV.

why not the same in case of Internet. im sure where i houses where they hold ijtema do have internets.

why did they leave out the internet. Dr. you kno very well internet is more harmful than TV.

Tj dont use TV or Internet for Ijema or gathering the simple answer is this is not a methodology of our Prophet SAW or our Sahaba not Tabee nor Tabeen not even Auliya Allah.

[Abu_Tamim]

No, ZN is a different case , i dont like him nor his methodology.

my ques was why do tj dont held ijtama (weekly gathering) where people have TV.

why not the same in case of Internet. im sure where i houses where they hold ijtema do have internets.

why did they leave out the internet. Dr. you kno very well internet is more harmful than TV.

:ws:
Brother, from your post I get the impression that you don't know anything at all about the work and the Jama'h. You should know that most programs are held in the mosques. I invite you to spend some time with the TJ and see for yourself. :insh: your doubts will be cleared.
:jazak:

[AbdAllah313]

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .

Because Its necessary our Prophet SAW went in Allah's path more than 25 time you just see the Seerat and our Sahaba's went more than 125 times in path of Allah
Some sahaba gone for 1 year for 2 years and one sahabi is in Allah's path for 27 years.
This is not Jamamt work this the work Allah and Prophet SAW

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???

This is the actual test of Imaan.
At the time of Sahaba the same things hapeend of sahaba and sahaba having more big family more than our family. Sahaba's wife are more than 1. They were having so many children after that also they went in path of Allah.
when we leave our home we totally depend upon Allah so our Imaan become more strong. and because of this our family's Imaan also become more strong. Because we see from our eyes that I earn that's why ma family runs but this is wrong believe If Allah will there then everything can happen.
3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.

As I said earlier this is sunnah to leave home city place for spreding Islam Deen our Prophet sunnah and sahabas sunnah.
In this work two types of Mehnat ( work ) is there 1.going out in the path of Allah 2.when you come back from path of Allah do the same work in your area.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.


Sahaba given dawah to Kuffars as well as Muslims also.

Hadith :-
Hadhrat Anas bin Maalik 3,Cw narrates that whenever Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha W@+
'.,I ----3. ' *
met one of the Sahabah @,G&i, he say to him, "Come! Let u s
believe in our Rabb for a moment (let us refresh our Imaan by talking about
Allaah for a while)." When hesaid this tosomeone one day, the man became angry
and reported it to Rasulullaah @& saying, " 0 Rasulullaah &%I%! Look a t Ibn
Rawaaha. He prefers your Imaan to the Imaan of a moment." Nabi @&% replied,
"May Allaah forgive Ibn Rawaaha. He loves t h e g a t h e r i n g s a b o u t w h i c h t h e
angels boast." ('I
Hadhrat Ataa bin Yasaar narrates that Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha ~ , w
once said t o one of his companions, "Come here s o that we may believe for a
while." "Are w e n o t a l r e ady believers?" the o t h e r a s k e d . "Certainly," Hadhr a t
Abdullaah bin Rawaaha 2324% replied, "but let u s talk about Allaah s o tha t o u r
Imaan can be increased." (2)
Hadhrat Shurayh bin Abdullaah reports tha t Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha
!&W&j would grab hold of the hand of one of the Sahabah @,Gw and say,
"Stand with me s o that we may believe for a while by sitting in a gathering of
Dhikr." (3)
Hadhrat Abu Dardaa ?3XW says, "Abdullaah bin Rawaaha 3G5W once caught
hold of my hand saying, 'Come! Let us believe for a moment because the heart
overturns faster than a pot boiling at its pitch." (4)
Hadhrat Abu Dardaa B,gW says, "When Abdullaah bin Rawaaha %B@j would
meet me, he would say, ' 0 Uwaymir! Sit down s o that we may discuss (Imaan) for
a while.' We would then sit down and discuss, after which he would say, 'This is a
gathering o f Imaan. The example of Imaan is like that of your Qamees. When you
have taken it off, you will again be putting it on and when you have put it on, you
will again be taking it off. The heart overturns faster than a pot boiling a t its
pitch." (5

Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......

TJ workers are doing wrong I am with you but our elder say we should look sahaba not TJ workers and every TJ worker is human being they are not angels so it hapeens they should not behave like this do dua for them.

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.

You answer my question about this
If the milk is coming from toilet pipe will you drink? obviously noooooo
the same thing is here Milk ( Deen ) Is coming from evil sect ( TV Internet) so we should not do this act and the secon and main imp note is this act is not followed by Prophet SAW Sahaba Tabayee Tabe Tabyee not even auliya Allah.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .

Ask these question to Aalim Mufti.

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply


Do dua for me...

[xs11ax]

Hadhrat Abu Dharr B,= reports that Hadhrat Umar %,G&&+j would grab hold of
the hands of one o r two Sahabah @F= and say, "Stand awhile with me s o that
we may renew our Imaan." They would then talk about Allaah 3 . ~ 5 2 $ ~ . ( ~ )
Hadhrat Aswad bin Hilaal reports that they were walking with Hadhrat Mu'aadh
bin Jabal % G W when he said to them, "Sit with us s o that we may believe for a
moment." (7)
) Abu Nu'ayrn In his Hilya (Vol.1 Pg.235

thats not ummumi gusht.

its more like khususi gusht.

ummumi gusht is to go door to door inviting people to the masjid for bayan. do you have any hadith for this?

[AbdAllah313]

Brother , why don't you give him the answers .

I always find TJ brothers exaggerating things. Im dividing my post in 2 parts and want a reply and really good one in fact convincing.

Part 1

Like i said in my previous post i am a muslim .

1) who prays salah 5 times , gives zakah , fasts , Hajj

Recite Durood Shareef and various azkaar as prescribed by my shaykh.

2) Stops my family from bad and encourage them to do good

3) infact i have very less friends so i dont go out . im not joking i can count my friend on my fingers. the more you make friends the ore you invite idle talks gossip and back bite.

4) i do my daily zikr as best as i can i ask Allah swt to forgive me and accept my good deeds because in the end im am the worst sinner among the muslims and kuffars ( regarding the future ).

5) Earn halal for my family.

is there anything left ?

Answer :- Yes Dawah is left which is fardh
Allah says in quran surah Wal Asr read that Surah and Translation its mentioned in that is Fardh.

Ques :

1) why do i need to go in jamaat .
Answer :- Because Its necessary our Prophet SAW went in Allah's path more than 25 time you just see the Seerat and our Sahaba's went more than 125 times in path of Allah
Some sahaba gone for 1 year for 2 years and one sahabi is in Allah's path for 27 years.
This is not Jamamt work this the work Allah and Prophet SAW

Hadith mafum :- Read muntakahab hadith book in that part Dawat of tabligh you will get this hadith

Our prophet asked one sahabi will you go in the path of Allah he replied yes again Prophet SAW asked which type of Hijrat ill you do ? there are two types of Hijrat 1 Hijrat Badiya 2 Hijart Batta sahabi asked which one is better Prpohet SAW replied 1 this is kind of u have to leave ur home permanently and go in in path of Allah ( Which sahaba did left Makkah permanently and went to Madina )
2 type is u have to go in path of Allah for some time and come back home.

So we can see both hijrat were there at the time of Prophet. Now we are doin second type of Hijrat.

2) who will take care of my family , please don't say Allah i know he does but understand if a person is the only single man in his family what about his wife and children???
Answer :- This is the actual test of Imaan.
At the time of Sahaba the same things hapeend of sahaba and sahaba having more big family more than our family. Sahaba's wife are more than 1. They were having so many children after that also they went in path of Allah.
when we leave our home we totally depend upon Allah so our Imaan become more strong. and because of this our family's Imaan also become more strong. Because we see from our eyes that I earn that's why ma family runs but this is wrong believe If Allah will there then everything can happen.

3) isnt doing good deeds at home better than going out where there is fitna , backbitting which i consider a major sin.
Answer :- Its up to u how u behave in path of Allah.

4) why shall i leave my place , city ? isnt calling Muslim in my city towards good and forbidding from evil enough where as Muslims of lets say City B call Muslims of city B towards good and forbid them from evil. no one will have to leave their home and places.
Answer :- As I said earlier this is sunnah to leave home city place for spreding Islam Deen our Prophet sunnah and sahabas sunnah.
In this work two types of Mehnat ( work ) is there 1.going out in the path of Allah 2.when you come back from path of Allah do the same work in your area.

5) The Sahaba went out and spread Islam among the kuffars . thats why you see the ideology of TJ fails at the very basis since population of muslims where TJ is dominant remains the same.

we read in a hadith that when anyone used to leave their prayers the sahaba's considered him to be a munafiq . This hadith proves had there been dawah among the muslims the sahabah wouldn't be witnessing people leaving their prayers. May Allah swt forgive if i understood this hadith incorrectly.

Answer :-*Sahaba given dawah to Kuffars as well as Muslims also.

Hadith :-
Hadhrat Anas bin Maalik 3,Cw narrates that whenever Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha W@+
'.,I ----3. ' *
met one of the Sahabah @,G&i, he say to him, "Come! Let u s
believe in our Rabb for a moment (let us refresh our Imaan by talking about
Allaah for a while)." When hesaid this tosomeone one day, the man became angry
and reported it to Rasulullaah @& saying, " 0 Rasulullaah &%I%! Look a t Ibn
Rawaaha. He prefers your Imaan to the Imaan of a moment." Nabi @&% replied,
"May Allaah forgive Ibn Rawaaha. He loves t h e g a t h e r i n g s a b o u t w h i c h t h e
angels boast." ('I
Hadhrat Ataa bin Yasaar narrates that Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha ~ , w
once said t o one of his companions, "Come here s o that we may believe for a
while." "Are w e n o t a l r e ady believers?" the o t h e r a s k e d . "Certainly," Hadhr a t
Abdullaah bin Rawaaha 2324% replied, "but let u s talk about Allaah s o tha t o u r
Imaan can be increased." (2)
Hadhrat Shurayh bin Abdullaah reports tha t Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Rawaaha
!&W&j would grab hold of the hand of one of the Sahabah @,Gw and say,
"Stand with me s o that we may believe for a while by sitting in a gathering of
Dhikr." (3)
Hadhrat Abu Dardaa ?3XW says, "Abdullaah bin Rawaaha 3G5W once caught
hold of my hand saying, 'Come! Let us believe for a moment because the heart
overturns faster than a pot boiling at its pitch." (4)
Hadhrat Abu Dardaa B,gW says, "When Abdullaah bin Rawaaha %B@j would
meet me, he would say, ' 0 Uwaymir! Sit down s o that we may discuss (Imaan) for
a while.' We would then sit down and discuss, after which he would say, 'This is a
gathering o f Imaan. The example of Imaan is like that of your Qamees. When you
have taken it off, you will again be putting it on and when you have put it on, you
will again be taking it off. The heart overturns faster than a pot boiling a t its
pitch." (5

Part 2

7) Maulana Ilyas ra and Maulana Zakariya ra were great people please leave them out of this specially Maulana Zakariya ra because im bayah through his chain. and i love him for the sake of ALLAH swt.

Ques 1:

why do TJ look down upon people who have not gone in jamat though the person might be having all these Qualities above i mentioned. I have witnessed this myself a TJ elder giving a disappointing look when he was told the bro prays 5 times etc but as soon as he came to know about his not going in jamah he......
Answer :-*TJ workers are doing wrong I am with you but our elder say we should look sahaba not TJ workers and every TJ worker is human being they are not angels so it hapeens they should not behave like this do dua for them.

Ques 2:
why dont TJ have ijtama where people have Tv in their homes. I know a family who has all the Quality above , goes to Jamat also yet TJ dont have ijtima in his home because of TV. what if the person is having TV for the purpose of education? Now days we have option to choose from selective channel like news , discovery leaving out all time waste and haram like fashion tv , family drama that only incite hatred etc.
Answer :- You answer my question about this
If the milk is coming from toilet pipe will you drink? obviously noooooo
the same thing is here Milk ( Deen ) Is coming from evil sect ( TV Internet) so we should not do this act and the secon and main imp note is this act is not followed by Prophet SAW Sahaba Tabayee Tabe Tabyee not even auliya Allah.

Note : TV in the case i have mentioned for news , discovery is only for knowledge & keeping yourself update .
so why this attitude from the TJ.
IF you say TV is totaly haram which even i watch only for news and that too sometimes what will you say about internet.

If TV is haram Internet too is haram , Infact Internet is more dangerous because you having pornography , IM instant messaging where both genders mix and do haram acts etc etc .

so why a fatwa in tv but not internet .
Answer :- Ask these question to Aalim Mufti.

Brother you will again come with the reply that we use internet for education , checking email etc we dont watch pornography , IM chat with opposite gender , music etc

See that's my point : Personal Interest ! similarly I don't use TV for fashion , music , only knowledge and news.

Infact Muslims watch less TV than internet and i challenge majority of TJ or their children who are using Instant Messaging like msn , yahoo , facebook , Google talk and chatting with others yet you don't down upon them , in fact 95/100 every TJ would be having accounts on IM and their children might too be chatting which they are aware or lesser degree not aware of it.

Please issue a fatwa on Internet too as in case of TV but you people won't because of personal interest.

If anyone of you think i have made serious mistakes then please pray 2 rakah salah and make dua in my favour.
May Allah swt guide me if i am wrong by means of your Dua.

Thank you for your time & patience

Waiting for a reply


Do dua for me...

[AbdAllah313]

thats not ummumi gusht.

its more like khususi gusht.

ummumi gusht is to go door to door inviting people to the masjid for bayan. do you have any hadith for this?

This is both type

[xs11ax]

This is both type

how is it so?

do you know what ummumi gusht is?

[AbdAllah313]

Read the dynamic event of Taa'if, which follows:

In Shawwaal
(in the last of May or in the beginning of June 619
A.D.), ten years after announcing his prophethood, Rasulullaah ρ set
out towards Taa'if, about 60 kilometres from Makkah, in the
company of his freed slave Hadhrat Zaid bin Haaritha τ.
1 Rasulullaah ρ
travelled on foot to Taa’if to invite the people to Islaam.
2 There he met three chiefs of the Thaqeef clan. They were all
brothers whose names were Abd Yaleel bin Amr, Habeeb bin Amr and
Mas’ood bin Amr. Rasulullaah ρ presented his case to them and told
them about the torment and impudent treatment he received from
his people. However, one of them said, “If Allaah has sent you with
anything at all, I shall steal the covering of the Kabah!” The other
said, “By Allaah! I shall never speak a word to you again after this! If
you are really a prophet, you are too honourable to speak to me.” The
third one said, “Was Allaah unable to find anyone besides you to
make a prophet?”


For ten days he stayed there delivering his message to several people,
one after another, but all to no purpose. Stirred up to hasten the
departure of the unwelcome visitor, the people hooted him through the
alley-ways, pelted him with stones and obliged him to leave from the city
pursued by a relentless rabble. Blood flowed down both his legs; and
Hadhrat Zaid τ, endeavouring to shield him, was wounded in the head.
4 They sat in rows on either side of the road and took stones in their
hands. Rasulullaah ρ was unable to even lift a foot or put it down


reference :- Tareekh-e-Islam, 1/122.
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum Pg.136.
Tabraani, as quoted in Majma'uz Zawaa'id (Vol.6 Pg.35).
Abu Nu’aym in Dalaa’il (Pg.103).
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum Pg.136.

without them throwing a stone at him. Together with this, they
continued poking fun at him and mocking him. After Rasulullaah ρ had
passed through their rows, he proceeded to one of their vineyards
with blood flowing down to his feet. There he took shade beneath
some vines and sat down on the ground in great distress and pain.
Blood was still running down his feet.


Once Rasulullaah ρ felt that he was safe from the Taa’if mob, he
made the following du’aa:

1
ََْرَا َ ِسا ََ ِ اَ!َه َو ِ#َِْ َ$ِ% َو ِ!ُ% َ'ْ(ُ) اْ!ُ*ْ+َأ َ-َِْا ُ.َا
/وَُ َِإ ؟ ُِِ* ْ
َ َِإ َر َ2ْ َأ َو َ
ِْ3َ(ْ4َ#ُْْا 5بَر َ2ْ َأ َ
ِِْا
ُ7َ#ْ* ٍ9َِْ% َِإ ْمَأ ُِ.َ;َ# 
ِ* َو َُِأ ََ< ٌ9َ4َ> َ-ِ ْ
ُ*َ َْ ْنِإ يَِْأ
َAَََB َو ُتَُ5Dا ُ7َ ْ2َ%َْ+َأ يِEا َ-ِ.ْFَوِ ِرْ!ُ ُذْ!َُأ ِْ ُHَIْوَأ َِه َ-َ#َِ<َ
َI ِِْ JِKَ ْوَأ َ-ُLَ4َ> ِْ َلِNْ نَأ ِةَِPQاَو َْ 5اَُْأ ِ7ََْ َLْ#ُ(ْا َ-َ َ-ُRَS
ِ7ِ Tِإ َة!ُ% Tَو َلْ!َ T َو َ)َْ #َ*


TRANSLATION: “O Allaah! Only to you do I communicate my
weakness, my lack of ingenuity and lack of importance among people.
O the most Merciful of those who show mercy, You are certainly the
Rabb of the weak and You are my Rabb. To whom shall you hand me
over? To an enemy who will treat me harshly or to a near one to
whom You shall give control over me? I care for nothing as long as
You are not angry with me,. All I require is that Your protection
should be vast enough for me. In the light of Your Countenance by
which multitudes of darkness are turned to light and by which the
affairs of this world and the Aakhirah are remedied, I seek
protection from being afflicted by Your wrath and displeasure. The
causes of Your displeasure should be removed until You are pleased.
There is no power and no might but with Allaah.”

rEF:- without them throwing a stone at him. Together with this, they
continued poking fun at him and mocking him. After Rasulullaah ρ had
passed through their rows, he proceeded to one of their vineyards
with blood flowing down to his feet. There he took shade beneath
some vines and sat down on the ground in great distress and pain.
Blood was still running down his feet.


Once Rasulullaah ρ felt that he was safe from the Taa’if mob, he
made the following du’aa:

1
ََْرَا َ ِسا ََ ِ اَ!َه َو ِ#َِْ َ$ِ% َو ِ!ُ% َ'ْ(ُ) اْ!ُ*ْ+َأ َ-َِْا ُ.َا
/وَُ َِإ ؟ ُِِ* ْ
َ َِإ َر َ2ْ َأ َو َ
ِْ3َ(ْ4َ#ُْْا 5بَر َ2ْ َأ َ
ِِْا
ُ7َ#ْ* ٍ9َِْ% َِإ ْمَأ ُِ.َ;َ# 
ِ* َو َُِأ ََ< ٌ9َ4َ> َ-ِ ْ
ُ*َ َْ ْنِإ يَِْأ
َAَََB َو ُتَُ5Dا ُ7َ ْ2َ%َْ+َأ يِEا َ-ِ.ْFَوِ ِرْ!ُ ُذْ!َُأ ِْ ُHَIْوَأ َِه َ-َ#َِ<َ
َI ِِْ JِKَ ْوَأ َ-ُLَ4َ> ِْ َلِNْ نَأ ِةَِPQاَو َْ 5اَُْأ ِ7ََْ َLْ#ُ(ْا َ-َ َ-ُRَS
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TRANSLATION: “O Allaah! Only to you do I communicate my
weakness, my lack of ingenuity and lack of importance among people.
O the most Merciful of those who show mercy, You are certainly the
Rabb of the weak and You are my Rabb. To whom shall you hand me
over? To an enemy who will treat me harshly or to a near one to
whom You shall give control over me? I care for nothing as long as
You are not angry with me,. All I require is that Your protection
should be vast enough for me. In the light of Your Countenance by
which multitudes of darkness are turned to light and by which the
affairs of this world and the Aakhirah are remedied, I seek
protection from being afflicted by Your wrath and displeasure. The
causes of Your displeasure should be removed until You are pleased.
There is no power and no might but with Allaah.”

Rasulullaah ρ himself narrates further. He says, “When I lifted my
head, I saw a cloud shading me. When I looked closer, I noticed
Jibra’eel υ in the cloud, he called for me saying, ‘Your Rabb has
certainly heard what your people have said to you and how they
responded to you. Allaah has sent the angel in charge of the
mountains to you so that you may command him as you like.’ The angel
in charge of the mountains then greeted me and said, ‘O Muhammad
ρ! What Jibra’eel υ said is true. What do you wish? Do you want me
to make the two mountains meet (and crush the people between
them)?’”

Rasulullaah ρ’s reply to him was, “I rather wish that Allaah creates
people from their progeny who will worship only the One Allaah
without ascribing any partners to Him.”

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1. In Shawwal (end of May/beginning of June) 619 AD
after proclamation of Nabuwwaat, Rasulullaah ρTaa'if.
2. This was after Hadhrat Hamza τ and Hadhraaccepted Islaam.

3. Taa'if is approximately 60 km from Makkah.
4. Hadhrat Zaid bin Haarithah τ (Rasulullaah ρ's fr
2
accompanied him.
5. Rasulullaah ρ first met with the chieftains.
6. He then met with the locals on an individual basis.
7. He stayed there for 10 days.
8. He was ridiculed and harmed.
9. He made du'aa.
10. He returned mostly on foot.

Ref :-


1
2
Bukhari (Vol.1 Pg.458). Muslim and Nasa’ee have also reported this narration.
Hadhrat Umar τ accepted Islaam six years after Rasulullaah ρ announced his
prophethood, as substantiated by Haafidh Abul Hasan Taraablisi and quoted in Al Bidaaya
wan Nihaaya (Vol.3 Pg.30). This is also narrated in Isaaba (Vol.4 Pg.447).

What we deduce from the event.


From just this one event any un-biased person can extract the
following:

1. To go on foot is proven. Most of the Da'wah (invitation to
Islaam) of Nabi ρ in and around Makkah and Madinah was done on
foot. In fact, the Ahadeeth announce freedom from Jahannam to
the feet which are touched by dust in the path of Allaah.
Hadhrat Abu Abs τ reports that he heard Rasulullaah ρ say,
"Allaah has forbidden Jahannam for the person whose feet
become dusty in the path of Allaah."
Thus 'paidal' (walking)
Jamaat is laudable and experience shows that it is most
effective.
1

This also answers those who object by saying, “Tabligh members
only invite Muslims?” This objection is mistaken because when
the Jamaat moves on foot or gathers at bus stops, railway
stations and airports, onlookers make numerous enquiries and ask
many questions. The reality of the matter is that the amount of
“Da'wah” the Tabligh Jamaat does to non-Muslims on a one-toone

basis is not done by any other movement. Moreover, the
number of people who accepted Islaam through the Tabligh
Jamaat is more when compared to even those movements who
claim that they are solely preaching and propagating Islaam to
the non-Muslims. One should do some research and soul
searching.

2. Nabi ρ was the Ameer and the Mutakallim (speaker – chosen for
that occasion). The Hadith of Nabi ρ is very clear on the matter
that when travelling, one person should be made the Ameer,
especially when there are more than three people. Hadhrat Abu

Ref:-
Bukhaari (Vol.1 Pg.124). The Hadith is also narrated by Imaam Ahmad (Vol.3 Pg.479)
and Bayhaqi (Vol.9 Pg.162).

__________________________________________________ _
Sa'eed Khudri τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said, "When three
persons set out on a journey, they should appoint one of them as
Ameer."
Thus, to have small Jamaats with their respective
Ameers is conclusively proven. Subsequently, the whole system of
“Mushwera” (Islaamic method and system of mutual consultation)
as done in various stages by the Tabligh Jamaat is also
automatically proven and given credibility. The concept of
“Mutakallim” is also adequately substantiated by the above event
in History.

1
3. When entering a locality, the Tabligh Jamaat generally meet the
prominent people of that place. The Qur'aan states, “If you love
Allaah, then follow me (Muhammad ρ)
. Since it is Nabi ρ whom
we follow, we should take note that he ρ first met with the
chieftains, who were the prominent ones in Taa'if. When the
Tabligh Jamaat adheres to the method as done by the final Nabi
ρ, then what is the problem? This proves what is termed as
“Khususi Mulaakaat”- meeting ‘special’ people on an individual
basis, for the pleasure of Allaah. The benefit of first meeting
the influential people of the locality has many advantages which
are known to all.
2

4. Moreover, Nabi ρ individually met the local people of Taa'if. This
is the very same procedure that the Tabligh Jamaat adopts and
is termed “Ummumi Mulaakaat” – meeting and interaction with
the general inhabitants. Especially in these days, practically
every meeting is either practically motivated or linked to fundraising

or a request for some mutual relationship. It is seldom
ever done solely for the pleasure of Allaah.

A Hadith states that when two Muslims shake hands solely for
the pleasure of Allaah, then before their hands separate, their
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minor sins fall off just as leaves fall off from the trees during
autumn. Hadhrat Hudhayfah bin Yamaan τ narrates that
Rasulullaah ρ said, "When a Mu'min meets another Mu'min,
greets him, takes his hand and shakes it, their sins are shed off
just as leaves are shed off a tree."


1
How strange, the Tabligh Jamaat members meet the general
public solely for the pleasure of Allaah, not for money, votes or
any other motive, but are criticised and sneered at.

5. Nabi ρ was repeatedly preaching to the people of Makkah,
addressing them in congregations, as we see in his inaugural
speech from Mount Safa
. He also moved from tent to tent in
Mina during the Hajj of the Period of Ignorance
2
and he went
even further to invite the leaders on their death beds, as he did
for his uncle, Abu Taalib
4
3
.

All the above can be easily termed as “in-ghust” or “Jowla” (in
Arabic), which literally means 'moving from one place to
another'. This proves the local movement for the purpose of
Da'wah. Furthermore, going to Taa'if can be termed as “outGhust”,

i.e. going to another locality outside your own for the
pleasure of Allaah.

6. Nabi ρ preached amongst the people of Taa'if for 10 days.
Tabligh activities generally rotate around 3, 10 and 40 days. At times it may also include 4 months for non-Ulema and 1 to 3
years for the Ulema. Whilst some are on a full time basis, others
are on anytime call- up basis.

Before we explain the specification and significance of days and
time, a few fundamental points have to be borne in mind:

Ref:-


1
2

Abu Dawood – Kitaabul Jihaad, Hadith 2608.
Surah Aal Imraan, verse 31.

1
2
Tabraani in his Awsat (Vol.1 Pg.184).
Bukhaari – Kitaabut Tafseer, Hadith 4770. Imaams Ahmad and Muslim have also reported
the narration, as quoted in Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah (Vol.3 Pg.38). Also see Kanzul
Ummaal (Vol.1 Pg.277).
3
Tabraani, as quoted in Majma'uz Zawaa'id (Vol.6 Pg.21). See also Al Bidaayah wan
Nihaayah (Vol.3 Pg.138) and (Vol.3 Pg.142) , Isaabah (Vol.1 Pg.275) and (Vol.4 Pg.312).
Abu Nu'aym in his Dalaa'il (Pg.96, 105)
4
Bukhaari – Kitaabut Tafseer, Hadith 4772. This Hadith has been reported by Imaams
Ahmad, Nasa’ee, Ibn Abi Haatim and Ibn Jareer in their books when discussing the
commentary of Qur'aanic verses. Tirmidhi has also reported the Hadith and states that the
Hadith is reliable. A similar Hadith has been narrated by Ibn Katheer in his commentary of
the Qur'aan (Vol.4 Pg.28), by Bayhaqi (Vol.9 Pg.188) and by Haakim (Vol.2 Pg.432). Also
see Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah (Vol.3 Pg.123).

a.) Practically every Surah of the Qur'aan mentions Jihaad in
the way of Allaah. When academics discuss the meaning of
Jihaad, one understands it to express many aspects
relating to the upkeep of Deen. It will mean, to exert
oneself for Deen, to strive for the protection of Deen, to
endeavour for the defence of Deen, to spread the Deen, to
preach and propagate the Deen, to teach all branches of
Deen, to engage in physical contact in order to upkeep,
maintain, defend, protect, spread and propagate the
Kalimah of Tauheed of Islaam.

b.) Da'wah (inviting) and Tabligh (propagating) of Deen is
Jihaad (striving in the Deen). Jihaad leads eventually to
“Qitaal” martyrdom or killing for the pleasure of Allaah
without exceeding the stipulated boundaries of the
Shariah.

c.) To learn about Deen is Fardh (obligatory). To preach and
propagate Deen is also Fardh (obligatory). To protect and
defend Deen can be done in various ways and the Tabligh
Jamaat is one of the most excellent, which has been proven
by experience to protect the Deen. We observe that the
Tabligh Jamaat is like a mobile Madrassah and is extremely
effective for the masses and professionals. It is that
international movement that has reformed the lives of not
hundreds, but thousands. Every day so many people enter
the Tabligh Jamaat and reform themselves to become good
members of society when they have formerly been classified as lost cases in society, bad members of the
locality and sinners of the first order.

d.) The Hadith is explicit that a little time (the time taken to
milk an animal) in the day or night is better than the world
and what it contains
. The Qur'aanic verses ordering
“enjoining what is good (Ma’roof) and forbidding what is evil
(Munkhar)” support the unanimous opinion that Jihaad has
to be done all the time. Thus “ghust” is all the time, day and
night. When there is no time specification for Jihaad
(which in itself is adequately proven), then 3 days, 10 days,
40 days, 4 months, 1 year, 3 years, etc is done punctually
for organisation, co-ordination and planning.
1

e.) One has to understand that first the act itself has to be
properly, reliably, authentically proven before organisation,
co-ordination, sequence and proper planning date and time
can be set. Understand this principle and concept well.
7. Do you not see that to learn and teach Deen is adequately proven
in Shari'ah. It is therefore laudable to set up the Makaatib,
Madrassahs and Darul Ulooms. To have Ustaads, syllabi, holidays,
departments, etc will all be part of the organisation and planning.
All of this will be rewarded because the basis (in this case, ‘to
learn and teach Deen’) has been proven beyond doubt.

We see that while making the Dhikr of Allaah is also adequately
proven in Shari'ah, the Shari'ah has provided certain guidelines.
It has stipulated when, how, where and which method is best.
Thus although the basis for 'Dhikr being rewarding’ is proven,
there are certain conditions attached.

Ref:-
1
Bukhaari – Baab Sifatil Jannah wan Naar, Hadith 6568. Ahmad, Ibn Abi Shaybah, Bayhaqi
and Tirmidhi have also reported similar narrations, as quoted in Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah
(Vol.4 Pg.242) and Kanzul Ummaal (Vol.5 Pg.309) and (Vol.2 Pg.289).

Thus, while Jihaad by itself is proven, there are certain laws
attached to it which the Ulema know well.

Nevertheless, proper Shar'i procedures have to be followed to
prove the validity of any action in the Shari'ah. One cannot say
for example that since Allaah praises the saints in the 11
Para,
11
th
Surah, 11
th
verse, so Oh Muslims let us hold a festival on the
11
th
of the 11
th
month of every year. This sort of reasoning is
ludicrous and no scholar of Islaam of repute has used such weird
logic. Similarly one cannot say that transmigration of souls takes
place from death to 3
rd
day, from one place to another, then on
the 3
rd
day to the 7
th
day and then from 7
th
day to the 40
day,
from place to place. So at each junction let us have a prayer
ceremony.

Firstly, this migration is not proven. Secondly, to specify days
for prayer ceremonies for the deceased are also not proven.
Moreover, one should pray for the deceased whenever one
desires to do so without any pomp, show or extravagance.

Understand the above carefully.

8) However, there are certain quantities of days which have
significance.

Nabi ρ's actions and instructions to those he chose as Ameers of
expeditions was in brief :

go to this tribe or that and give them 3 choices

Allow them to contemplate for 3 days and then take the
necessary action

The choices being:
a. accept Islaam
b. pay ‘Jizya’ (protection tax) and live under Islaam in
peace and prosperity c. get ready to fight to resist the take over


Thus 3 days were given. In 3 days sufficient deliberation,
discussion and contemplation can take place. When one goes
out in Jamaat also, there is adequate time for one to
deliberate on one's condition, spiritual state, moral
condition, education level, purpose of creation, direction to
choose in life, future projections and a good reasonable
proper assessment can be made of one’s life as a whole.
Many people’s lives are changed and revolutionised for the
better after 3 days.

9) One should understand a very important point here. Whilst 3
days was given for deliberation and contemplation prior to
“Qitaal”, 3 days in Jamaat is also for self–deliberation and
contemplation. Thus the common factors are contemplation and
deliberation which is done in 3 days. Thus, the significance of 3
days via the common factors. One cannot say that because the
car has 4 wheels, one should therefore go out for 4 days because
there is no correlation to justify the 4 days. Understand this
well.

10) Hadhrat Yunus υ stayed in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3
nights (72 hours). In that duration the Nabi υ was fully focused
on Allaah. In this state of peace and tranquillity, he gained even
more proximity to Allaah and secured Allaah's forgiveness for
the error in his decision (i.e. leaving Nineveh prior to the order
of Allaah, thinking that the responsibility of conveying the
message had been completed and he now had to move away
before the wrath of Allaah descended on the nation.) Hadhrat
Yunus υ was a Nabi of Allaah and therefore 'Ma'soom' (innocent)
from sins. Where one goes out for at least 3 days, one is more focussed on Allaah (away from the hustle of business, from the
computer, fax and generally chaotic and busy life). One is
relaxed and therefore has some peace of mind to think about the
reality of life. One has time to ponder over the sins one has
committed and it is not uncommon to see that after 24 hours of
change of environment, one is actually standing for Tahajjud
crying and weeping over one's sins and resolving to move
positively forward to gain proximity to Allaah. All this can be
done in 3 days. Note the common factors embedded in 3 days.

11) Nabi ρ spent 10 days in Taa'if. This will be sufficient proof for
any Muslim for spending 10 days for Da'wah and Tabligh and not
for any other purpose. Thus, going out for 10 days for Da'wah
and Tabligh is proven. This incident also indicates to a point that
Jamaats should stay in areas for 10 days for some proper
constructive work to take place. We make du'aa that Jamaat
activity progresses to such a level that with many Jamaats
moving around, we can have them in localities for at least 10 days.
It is due to the vastness of areas and shortage of Jamaats that
the duration which Jamaats spend in localities has to be
restricted.
12) Allaah extended the stay of Hadhrat Moosa υ on the mountain by
a further 10 days, bringing the total to 40 days
. Both 10 and 40
days in the path of Allaah are proven in the above event.
1

13) It is a well known juristic fact that in the last 10 days of

Ramadhaan, I'tikaaf is Sunnat-e-Muakkadah ala Kifayah. The
numerous spiritual benefits attained by those performing
I'tikaaf are well documented. The one who goes out in Jamaat
for 10 days, making I'tikaaf in various Masaajid earns similar
spiritual rewards and benefits. Do you now see the commonfactor
method of ours in relation to 10 days?

Ref:-


1
Abu Dawood (Pg.358), Muslim (Vol.2 Pg.82), Ibn Majah (Pg.210), Bayhaqi (Vol.9
Pg.184). as mentioned in Kanzul Ummaal (Vol.2 Pg.297), it is also reported by Ahmad,
Shaafi’ee, Daarmi, Tahaawi, Ibn Hibbaan, Ibnul Jaarood, Ibn Abi Shayba and others.
1
Surah A'raaf, verse 142.

14) There are many Ahadeeth relating to the figure 40 .


Benefit of 40 days salaah with Jamaat with Takbeer Ula.
Hadhrat Anas bin Maalik τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said,
"When a person performs salaah solely for Allaah's pleasure
for forty days in congregation and with the first Takbeer,
two exemptions are written for him; (these are) exemption
from Jahannam and exemption from hypocrisy."



40 Salaats in Masjid e Nabawi ρ. Hadhrat Anas bin Maalik τ
1
reports that Rasulullaah ρ said, "Whoever performs forty
salaah in this Masjid of mine without missing a single salaah is
assured exemption from Jahannam, exemption from
punishment and exemption from hypocrisy."



40 days change of foetus in womb. Hadhrat Abdullaah τ
2
narrates, "Rasulullaah ρ who was Saadiq and Masdooq said to
us, 'Each one of you collects in the womb of his mother for
forty days. He then remains like this as a clot of blood for
another forty days. In the same manner, he then takes the
form of a piece of flesh, after which Allaah dispatches an
angel who is charged with recording four things viz. his
actions, his sustenance, his lifespan and whether he will be a
good person or a wretch.'"



Rasulullaah ρ said, "Whoever is sincere to Allaah for forty
3
days, fountains of wisdom will spring from his heart to his
tongue."

Ref:-


1
2
Tirmidhi – Hadith 241.
Ahmad (Vol.3 Pg.155), as quoted in Targheeb wat Tarheeb (Vol.2 Pg.215) and Majma'uz
Zawaa'id (Vol.4 Pg.8).
3
4
Bukhari, Hadith 976.
Abu Nu'aym, as quoted in Kashful Akhfaa (Vol.2 Pg.234). See also Maqaasid Hasanah
(Pg.390), Faydhul Qadeer (Vol.6 Pg.46).


Hadhrat Abu Umaamah τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said, "A
complete term of standing guard over the borders (of a
Muslim state) is forty days. Whoever stands guard for forty
days without engaging in trade and without starting
something new (in Deen) shall emerge from his sins like the
day his mother gave birth to him."


1
In fact, when a man once came to Hadhrat Umar τ, Hadhrat
Umar τ asked, “Where have you been?” “I have been guarding
the borders,” the man replied. Hadhrat Umar τ asked
further, “How many days did you spend on guard?” “Thirty
days,” was the reply. Hadhrat Umar τ commented, “Why did
you rather not complete forty days?”


2

40 days – Hadhrat Moosa υ on the mountain. Allaah says,

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We made an appointment with Moosa υ for thirty nights (at Mount Toor), then
ended it with (another) ten (nights) to complete his Rabb’s term of forty nights."


From the above we learn :-

Within 40 days a person develops a habit, some form of character
change takes place, freedom from Jahannam results, one is
safeguarded from ‘nifaaq’ (hypocrisy), personality alters with new
levels and phases being achieved, barakaat (blessings) of Allaah are
earned, rewards multiply and person’s being itself undergoes
revolutionary changes and closeness to Allaah. Most of the Sufi
Mashaa'ikh also require their Mureeds (disciples) to remain for 40
days in the Khanqah for spiritual reformation.

Ref:-


1
2
3
Tabraani, as quoted in Mashaari'ul Ashwaaq (Vol.1 Pg.402).
Al Bidaaya wan Nihaaya (Vol.4 Pg.157).
Surah A'raaf, verse 142.

Note this happens when an action is done regularly for the duration
of 40 days and not on the 40
th
day itself. This happens in the 39
days leading to the 40
th
day.

In Shari'ah, those who are acquainted with Qiyaas (analogical
reasoning on Shari lines) will know that firstly the 'Asl' (the root,
principle) has to be adequately proven for it to be used as the
‘Maqees’ (the basis of analysis) and the ‘Maqees Alay’ (that case
which the 'Maqees' is moving parallel to) can be linked. There has to
similarities between the Maqees and Maqees Alay for proper, valid,
constructive conclusions and derivations to result.

Thus there is no link with 4 tyres of the car and going out for 4 days.
However, we find the quality of ‘inviting towards good’ in ‘Tabligh’,
‘Da'wah’, ‘Jihaad’ and ’Qitaal'. Thus a proof for ‘Jihaad’ will also serve
as proof for Da'wah and Tabligh. Understand this well.

As for those who have given their lives for ‘Tabligh’ and those who
are on call to proceed as the need arises are in fact those people
indicated in the verses referring to the group who should be
enjoining what is right and forbidding what is evil. A few of these
verses are:
There should be a group from you who invite towards (all that is) good, command

(others to do) what is right and forbid (others from) evil. These (people who do this)
are indeed the successful ones (those who have reached their goal). {Surah Aal Imraan,
verse 104
You (the followers of Muhammad ε) are the best of all nations who have been raised
for (the benefit and salvation of) mankind. You command what is right, forbid from
evil (kufr, shirk, wickedness, etc) and believe in Allaah. {Surah Aal Imraan, verse 110}

The Mu'mineen men and the Mu'mineen women are supporters
(helpers,
protectors)
of each other. They command (others and each other to do) good,
prevent evil, establish salaah, pay zakaah and obey Allaah and His Rasool ρ.
These are the ones on whom Allaah shall soon shower mercy. Verily Allaah is
Mighty, The Wise. {Surah Taubah, verse 71}

Although the verses refer to the Sahabah ψ in the first instance, all
those doing similar work are implied. However, there are
proportionally too few who have designated their lives for ‘Tabligh’
on a full time basis. In every country, province, city and locality
there should be Muslims upholding the task and great responsibility
of Tabligh, Da'wah and Jihaad.

During the Khulafa-e-Raashideen, the military forces where
generally sent out for 4 months at a time
. In most cases the man can
stay away from his wife and family for 4 months at a time. If a
person has permission from his wife and family to spend more time
then he can go for longer periods in the path of Allaah. We are
taught that at 4 months the “Ruh” is put into the growing foetus.
Rasulullaah ρ said, "Each one of you collects in the womb of his
mother for forty days. He then remains like this as a clot of blood
for another forty days. In the same manner, he then takes the form
of a piece of flesh (for another forty days), after which Allaah
dispatches an angel who is charged with recording four things viz. his
actions, his sustenance, his lifespan and whether he will be a good
person or a wretch."
2
1
.

Thus the baby develops slowly but surely, is nourished, kept safe and
sound, protected from difficulties, fed miraculously and when the
major physical preparation is complete, the 'Ruh' is put in. This is
after 4 months.

Ref:-
2
Abdur Razzaaq, as quoted in Kanzul Ummaal (Vol.8
Bukhari, Hadith 976.



Thus the baby now enters a new phase, a fresh situation, a
revolutionary circumstance, a life, a phase of a progressive future, a
better turn for the time to come, a boost in everything and going
towards preparation for coming into the world. A person going for 4
months realises the fruitfulness of his efforts and sacrifices. He
enters into a new place, a better spiritual life, an academic boost
into an Islaamic way of life, his entire life pattern changes and he
now manoeuvres into a better position to face the oncoming life of
the grave and Aakhirah. Do you see the similarities, semblance and
link. May the Creator help us all.

Ulema are generally requested to go for 3 years, spaced over some
time, but one year at a time. This is logical since the Ulema are the
spiritual guides of the Ummah. They are valuable and are those who
understand the importance, significance, value, purpose and high
status of Deen. They understand the duty and responsibility of the
Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 better than most others and therefore their expertise
is more needed. When out with a Jamaat, they will be able to guide
people and, at the same time, learn more about the details of the
work of Tabligh than others. Therefore more time is required from
them. The duty and responsibility of the Ulema is greater. Their
insight, foresight and vision is better and deeper. Their Ilm is more,
their closeness and proximity to Deen is more intense. Thus more
time is required from them. Those who have more responsibility have
to give more time. Because the sweeper in a factory has less
important responsibilities and duties, less time and weight lay on the
shoulders. The one close to the Director gives more time due to the
heaviness of duty and responsibility.

HADHRAT SHAIKH
ا 7ر
Hadhrat Shaikh Gا )Dر gave the following reply to a question posed by the Al-Jami'at (Delhi)
news reporter, "My respected friend! We who sit on straw-mats are not accustomed to issuing
statements. However, on this occasion, convey the following message to the Muslim public,
through the Al-Jami'at, 'Every person should engage himself in the work for which Moulana
Mohammad Yusuf Sahib Gا )Dر and his father, Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Ilyas Sahib Gا )Dر
sacrificed their lives with the same spirit of dedication and enthusiasm as theirs. This is my message
and feelings." (Al-Jami'at, 3 Dhul Hijjah 1384 Hijri) {Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf
Sahib – Amire Tabligh, pgs.395, 396}


We always hear that ‘Tabligh’ is the work of the Ambiyaa م>Fا *$0. Is
this true?

Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 came to the world to link mankind to the Creator; to
show mankind which actions are good, leading to the pleasure of
Allaah and which actions result in the wrath of Allaah and to
Jahannam. Every Nabi υ of Allaah from Hadhrat Adam υ to Hadhrat
Muhammad ρ called mankind to what we term as ‘Usul e Deen’. These
are :-
1.) Tauheed
2.) Risaalat and
3.) Aakhirat.

However, if we carefully study the stories of the Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 in
the Qur'aan, two statements are repeatedly made by the Ambiyaa *$0
م>Fا These are :-
1.) Fear Allaah
2.) We ask of you no remuneration (wages) over preaching
because our wages (reward) is with Allaah.

There are two types of fear:-
1.) Fear resulting from fright, the end result of which is solely
and only linked to harm and injury.
2.) Fear created by love, respect and remorse at anger created
and punishment incurred.

We do not fear Allaah as one fears a lion. This type of fear is not
implied.

Stemming from one's love, respect and honour for one’s parents or
teacher, one does not want to do anything contrary to their
directives because of the ‘fear’ of their anger or punishment. This
type of fear is implied. The other important aspect which all the
Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 made clear was that they received no remuneration for
preaching, propagating and inviting towards the pleasure of Allaah.


In the entire world, there is currently no other group of people
bigger than the Tabligh Jamaat that goes door to door, village to
village, town to town, city to city, province to province, country to
country and continent to continent trying hard to link the creation
with the Creator, calling towards good, learning, teaching, promoting
adherence to the practice of the Sunnah and doing much more with
their own money, without asking for wages, remuneration, votes and
with no other ulterior motive. Any reasonable person can observe the
striking resemblance between the work of the Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 and that
of the Tabligh Jamaat.

When Nabi ρ is the last and final Nabi and Rasool of Allaah, the
work, duty and responsibility of Nubuwwah has to carry on. The
Tabligh Jamaat is definitely fulfilling a major aspect of continuing
the work of Nabi ρ. Some people sarcastically ask how one can
classify the duty of inviting towards good as work. We say, that in
today’s world when examining faeces under the microscope is
classified as work, why does one not want to classify the work of
Ambiyaa
*$0م>Fا as work?


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ida
dada
daa
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ayat Bayaan and Istighfaar on return
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yat Bayaan and Istighfaar on return



This is easily proven from the life of Nabi ρ. Let alone giving ‘wordof advice’, even going along with the person for a little while has beeproven from the practice of Rasulullaah ρ.

1. Hadhrat Mu'aadh bin Jabal τ narrates that when Rasulullaah
sent him (as governor) to Yemen, Rasulullaah ρ walked with him ahe gave him advice. Hadhrat Mu'aadh τ was riding his animal whilRasulullaah ρ walked beside the animal. After giving him thnecessary advice, Rasulullaah ρ said, "O Mu'aadh! You shaprobably not meet me after this year. You shall perhaps bpassing by only this Masjid of mine and my grave." HadhraMu'aadh τ then started weeping profusely because of thiseparation from Rasulullaah ρ. Rasulullaah ρ then turned arounand faced towards Madinah as he said, "The people closest to mare those with Taqwa regardless of who they are and where themay be."


1
Many books on jurisprudence have been written with regard tthis event.

2. Abu Yusuf
Gا )Dر said : “Some of our teachers related to me fromNafi from Ibn Umar that when Abu Bakr Siddeeq τ despatcheYazeed bin Abu Sufyaan to Syria, he walked along with them tsee him off for about 2 miles. They said to him: “O, the Khalifaof the Prophet of Allaah! Would you not go back." He said :"Nofor I have heard the Rasool of Allaah ρ saying that Allaah wisave from Jahannam the person whose feet are covered witdust in the path of Allaah".

Ref:-
1
2
Ahmad (Vol.5 Pg.235), as quoted in Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah (Vol.5 Pg.100).
English translation of Kitaab ul Kharaj (Islaamic Revenue Code translated by Dr. Abid
Ahmad Ali – Qadi Abu Yusuf
ا 7ر , Pgs. 8,9

The following is proven from these two narrations:-
a.) advising the Jamaat/ Ameer that is going out
b.) going with them for a distance and
c.) he whose body is covered with some dust in the path of
Allaah will be saved from Jahannam

On return, the Ameer of the Jamaat generally says ‘let us return to
the Masjid and making Istighfaar (seek Allaah's forgiveness)'. The
question then arises: ”What sin did we commit that we should seek
pardon?” The answer is that although we went out in the path of
Allaah, we definitely did not fulfil the rights of Tabligh as it ought
to be done; as the Ambiyaa
م>Fا *$0 would have done it, as Nabi ρ would
have done it or even as the Sahabah ψ would have done it. On the
way we may have said and seen something that we were not allowed
to say or see or whilst inviting we may have said an unbecoming word
or two. For this and other issues we seek forgiveness. It is for this
reason that one recites the du'aa after the General Taleem or after
‘Mashwera’.


Why Ijtima, Johr?
Why Ijtima, Johr?Why Ijtima, Johr?
Why Ijtima, Johr?



Ijtima means ‘gathering’ and the ‘Johr’ is a smaller ‘Ijtima’.

During the time of Nabi ρ, Muslims used to gather regularly in the
House of Arqam behind Mount Safa. These days there is an escalator
called “Arqam Escalator" to show where the house of Arqam was.
This was the place where Hadhrat Umar τ accepted Islaam.

It has been reported that Hadhrat Arqam τ's house was at Mount
Safa and it here that Rasulullaah ρ used to be found during the early
days of Islaam. It was here that he invited people towards Islaam, as
a result of which many people became Muslim.


Hadhrat Ali τ reports that (on three consecutive days) Rasulullaah ρ
instructed him to prepare a goat with a
Saa (approximately 3.6 kg) of
grain and a large container of milk to host the family of Abdul
Muttalib (so that Rasulullaah ρ could invite them to Islaam).
1


This gathering in the house of Hadhrat Arqam τ was one of Muslims
alone, where learning and teaching of Islaam took place. Rasulullaah ρ
also had food served to the people he gave Da'wah to. All the above
also takes place in an Ijtima or Johr. In some countries, to facilitate
huge crowds, emergency toilets are erected, tents are constructed
and small food shops are also set up. In other countries people even
prepare their own food. When the Usul (principle) is found, all that
happens for organisational purposes is permissible.

Ref:-


1
2
Mustadrak (Vol.3 Pg.502) and Isaabah (Vol.1 Pg.26).
Bayhaqi (Vol.2 Pg.178), Tabari (Vol.2 Pg.228), Ahmad as quoted in the Tafseer of Ibn
Katheer (Vol.3 Pg.350) and Bazzaar, as quoted in Majma'uz Zawaa'id (Vol.8 Pg.302). See
also Al Bidaaya wan Nihaaya (Vol.3 Pg.39).

We notice at times little change in the members
We notice at times little change in the members We notice at times little change in the members
We notice at times little change in the members
of the Jamaat
of the Jamaatof the Jamaat
of the Jamaat



At times a person goes out in Jamaat but very little change takes
place in the character, personality and dealings of that person. The
person goes for 40 days but changes very little. He again goes out
for 4 months but changes little. So the Tabligh Jamaat gets a bad
name. Some say that a person should not go out with the Tabligh
Jamaat for he is causing disrepute to the work. We say that when a
person is physically ill, then he is admitted to hospital. He comes out
of the hospital and later goes back for a longer period. In fact, the
person repeatedly goes in and out. What must we do, leave the
person in the graveyard and say that he is causing disrepute to the
hospital. No, that is why we say that if a person did not change and
reform at 40 days or 4 months, he requires spending more time. Also
for the duration of time he is in Jamaat then the local people who
are affected by his ill character and bad dealings are temporarily
safe. Moreover, at least for the time that the person is in Jamaat,
the person is not induced in wrong, Shari, illegal transactions.

Similarly, when a person who has extremely corrupt and bad business
dealings stands in the first row for every Fardh Salaah, should we
tell him not to come for Salaah, or should we rather think positively
by saying that at least he was away from sinning for the entire
duration of preparing and coming for Salaah, while making wudhu,
while performing Salaah and during time spent going to and from the
Masjid. Insha-Allaah, eventually the person will leave the sin due to
the power and importance of Salaah.

If a person is good and righteous, then why must he go repeatedly in
the path of Allaah. Medically speaking, even the doctors, dentists,
eye specialists, etc want you to go for a general check up every 4
months or so. When so much emphasis is placed on the physical, how
much more must be placed on the spiritual side of man? A person
staying in his own environment tends to stagnate and become lazy. He

forgets his original duty and becomes complacent. His spiritual power
also becomes weak. Thus he needs to go out for boosting and
recharging from time to time. Even in the Hadith, the blessed words
of Rasulullaah ρ state that we should refresh our Imaan by
recitation of the Kalimah ‘Laa Ilaaha Illallaah Muhammadur
Rasulullaah'.


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UNIQUE AND UNIVERSAL EFFORT
Amongst the religious journals and newspapers, the weekly 'Khuddamuddin - Lahore' is most
widely circulated and approved by all schools of thought. Its editorial board expressed its
sincere sorrow upon the demise of Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Yusuf Sahib Gا )Dر under the
caption, 'The Sun of Celestial Reformation and Propagation has Set'. The rest of the article is as
follows:

"The demise of Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Yusuf Sahib Gا )Dر is an irreplaceable loss for the
Islamic world. He sacrificed everything to internationalise the effort of Tabligh on the pattern
set by his father. He continued his mission with a matchless form of zeal and enthusiasm". "What is
most commendable is the fact that Hadhrat Moulana Gا )Dر steered such an international
movement without seeking any financial assistance from others. No posters were displayed, none
of the current forms of propaganda were adopted and no interviews were conducted. We hope
that Allaah Rabbul 'Izzat will keep alive the mission of Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Ilyas
Sahib Gا )Dر and Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Yusuf Sahib Gا )Dر. May Allaah Ta'ala keep the
highways of Tabligh open upon which thousands have treaded to become immersed in the Dhikr
(remembrance) of Allaah Ta'ala and concern for their Aakhirah". [Khuddamuddin, 13 Dhul Hijjah
1384 Hijri]

The above article of the weekly 'Khuddamuddin' regarding the special features and general
benefit of the Tablighi effort is an open proof of its importance, authenticity and genuineness.
{Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Sahib – Amire Tabligh, pgs.397, 398}

Why go out ?
Why go out ?Why go out ?
Why go out ?



Some ask: “Why must we go out?”, ”Can we not stay at home and
reform?”, “We are where we are, have we improved?”. When a person
is sick, he is taken out of the home environment and put into hospital.
The new place will allow for change, proper treatment and recovery.
The more sick the patient is, the deeper he goes, from the general
ward to special care to intensive care. Thus a person who is
spiritually not well also needs to go out, to change his environment, to
go to better surroundings and in better company to be with those
performing Salaah, making Dhikr, thereby getting proper direction in
life. He should be with those who are trying to gain closeness and
proximity unto Allaah, who are trying to reform, change and link
themselves to Allaah. He should be with those who are inviting
towards good and doing the good, who are invited to good rather
than to bad and evil. Thus one needs to go out.

Some say member
Some say memberSome say member
Some say members of the Tabligh Jamaat are
s of the Tabligh Jamaat are s of the Tabligh Jamaat are
s of the Tabligh Jamaat are
very bad.
very bad.very bad.
very bad.



Reports reach us that some members of the Tabligh Jamaat are
reckless in their dealings and have extremely bad character. No
doubt, there are some members who do such actions which cause
disrepute, not only to the Tabligh Jamaat but even to Islaam.
However, the rule is if a salesman comes with a good product but is
very ill mannered and short tempered, does one discard the good
products because of the bad character of its promoter?

One should be sensible and look at the principles of the Tabligh
Jamaat. If one looks at the best of movements, one will also find the
worst of people in these efforts.

Why
WhyWhy
Why are non
are non are non
are non--Aalims
allowed
to
lecture
?
Aalims
allowed
to
lecture
?Aalims
allowed
to
lecture
?
Aalims
allowed
to
lecture
?

Some ask: “Why do non-Aalims lecture in the presence of Alims?”
This lecturing by non-Aalims is done within the permitted syllabus of
6 points. Many non- Ulema are able to express the concern for Deen
in a very impressive style. To give advice, to encourage what is good,
to call towards the truth, to instruct others from moving away from
harm, to save someone’s Imaan, to protect someone’s Imaan, to save
the blind from falling into the well, to admonish someone, to advise
someone of an impending harm is not only the work of the Ambiyaa
*$0
م>Fا and Ulema.

Do we not see in the story of Hadhrat Moosa υ that a man came from
the furthest end of the town to warn Hadhrat Moosa υ of danger.
The verse states:
ا

A man came running from the furthest end of the town saying, “O Moosa! Verily
the ministers are discussing the need to execute you, so leave (the city for your
own safety)
. I am certainly a good counsellor to you.” {Surah Qasas, verse 20}

Another verse says:

A man (from the same town) came running from the farthest end of the town
saying, “O my people! Follow the messengers...”
{Surah Yaaseen, verse 20}

In Islaam, the junior in rank can advise the senior. There is no flaw,
defect or inferiority in this. In Mi’raaj Hadhrat Moosa υ advised
Nabi ρ concerning Salaah.
In Madinah, Hadhrat Salmaan Faarsi υ
advised Nabi ρ to dig the trench.

Ref:-
1
2
Bukhaari – Kitaabus Salaah, Hadith 349.
Fat'hul Baari (Vol.7 Pg.314).

We can observe that generally the speakers of Tabligh Jamaat, even
their Ulema, do not dwell in “Masala Mas’aail” (rules and regulations)
on jurisprudence but keep to the path of inviting towards good.

Hadhrat Mufti Azeezur Rahmaan Bijnori writes: He (Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Gا )Dر)
did not extend this type of special treatment only to me. He treated every Aalim in this manner.
One of my special and close friends Moulana Khalil Ahmad Khan Sahib Najibabadi was a very
simple and pious Aalim. Once he reached Nizamuddeen with a Jamaat. He was seated with the
other guest at tea-time, when I addressed him with the title "Moulana". Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر seated
him besides himself and treated him with special affection.
Once, the editor of "Madinah", Janab Sa'id Akhtar Sahib proceeded for a Chillah (forty days) in
the path of Allaah. When he reached the place, Kawi, he expressed his intention to extend his
time to three chillas (four months). Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر remarked, "We also desire that you should
spend four months. However, your absence will cause uneasiness to Mufti Sahib and we do not
wish to inconvenience the Ulema."
Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر used to say, "We do not send Jamaats to Deoband and Saharanpur for the sake
of doing Da'wah and Tabligh amongst the Ulema. We send them with the sole reason of bridging
the gap which currently exists between the public and the Ulema. In this lies the benefit of the
public."
Relationship with the Elders
I am not fully aware of Hadrat Ji's relationship with the other elders. Nevertheless, I am fully
acquainted with his relationship with Hadrat Madani
Gا )Dر. He always used to visit Deoband whenever
he went to Saharanpur. He used to sit for lengthy periods of time with utmost respect in the
company of Hadrat Madani
Gا )Dر. Hadrat Madani Gا )Dر also kept up a close relationship with him.
Whenever Hadrat Madani Gا )Dر attended any Ijtima, he would encourage those who met him to spend
a chillah in the path of Allaah.
Once I happened to visit Nizamuddeen after the demise of Hadrat Madani Gا )Dر. It was a cold
winter's day. Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر was in the sunshine that was falling upon the platform. After greeting
him, he sighed deeply and said, "Hadrat Madani Gا )Dر has passed away. The world has been deprived
of a very great source of goodness. If our goodness is collectively placed on one side, then too
his goodness will outweigh ours." {Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Sahib – Amire
Tabligh, pgs. 144, 145}



“Wh
“Wh“Wh
“Why
y y
y does
does does
does the
the the
the Tabligh Jamaat go
Tabligh Jamaat goTabligh Jamaat go
Tabligh Jamaat go

mostly to
mostly to mostly to
mostly to
Muslims.”
Muslims.”Muslims.”
Muslims.”



Why does Tabligh Jamaat preach, teach, talk, and walk amongst
mostly Muslims. Firstly, many times the Tabligh Jamaat because of
their conspicuous nature have to work and give Da'wah to nonMuslims.

This happens at bus stops, railway platforms, airport areas
and on the road.

Secondly, when someone is doing well in accordance to the Shari'ah,
then allow them to carry on. No one is stopping one from giving
Da'wah to non-Muslims provided one knows the Shar'i requirements
and perimeters for this important responsibility.

Thirdly, in the Shari'ah we have many examples to prove that
teaching, learning and advising Muslims was done.


1.) Allaah instructs reminding because reminding is beneficial
for the Muslims: Allaah says:
ْآَذَو نِ`َ< ىَْآEا ُHَ3َ َ
ِِْbُْا
Continue advising because advice is beneficial for the Mu'mineen. {Surah
Dhaariyaat, verse 55}

ْآَEَ< نِإ ِ2َ(َ3 ىَْآEا
So advise because advice is beneficial. {Surah A'la, verse 9}

The Mu'mineen men and the Mu'mineen women are supporters
(helpers,
protectors)
of each other. They command (others and each other to do) good,
prevent evil, establish salaah, pay zakaah and obey Allaah and His Rasool
ρ.
These are the ones on whom Allaah shall soon shower mercy. Verily Allaah is
Mighty, The Wise.
{Surah Taubah, verse 71}


From here it is clear that the reminding, advising,
admonishing is done by Muslims for Muslims.

2.) The gathering of Muslims at Darul Arqam for learning,
teaching, advising and practising was done by Muslims, for
Muslims. Here the Ameer was none other than Nabi ρ.


3.) The sending of Hadhrat Mus'ab bin Umayr τ to Madinah to
teach Muslims.


4.) The sending of Hadhrat Mu’aadh bin Jabal (R.A) to Yemen, as
2
a governor, guide and teacher for the Muslims.


3
5.) Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Mas’ood τ narrated Ahadeeth once or
twice a week to those gathered in Masjid e Nabawi ρ.


6.) Hadhrat Abu Hurayrah τ used to stand near the mimbar
(pulpit) of Masjid e Nabawi ρ once a week and narrate
Ahadeeth.


5
7.) Hadhrat Tameem Daari τ used to narrate Ahadeeth before
the Jumu'ah Khutba every Jumu'ah.
(From this one we prove
also that the lecture is given prior to Jumuah Khutba in many
countries).
6

8.) Hadhrat Umar τ sent Hadhrat Abu Dardaa to Shaam to teach
the Qur'aan and Sunnah to the people.


Ref:-

1
2
Al Bidaaya wan Nihaaya (Vol.3 Pg.30) and Isaaba (Vol.4 Pg.447).
Isaabah (Vol.6 Pg.101), Abu Nu'aym in his Hilya (Vol.1 Pg.107) and his Dalaa’il (Pg.108),
see also Majma'uz Zawaa'id (Vol.6 Pg.42) and Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah (Vol.3 Pg.152).
3
4
5
6
7
Ahmad (Vol.5 Pg.235), as quoted in Al Bidaayah wan Nihaayah (Vol.5 Pg.100).
Bukhaari – Kitaabul Ilm, Hadith 70.
Hakaim (Vol.1 Pg.108).
Iqaamatul Hujjah Pg.32.
Ibn Asaakir, as quoted in Kanzul Ummaal (Vol.7 Pg.77).


9.) The Mufassireen, Muhadditheen and the Ustaads in all Darul
Ulooms as well as the Mashaa'ikh in Khanqahs teach, study,
educate, advise and admonish Muslims.

10.) Rasulullaah ρ once dispatched a group of six Sahabah ψ to
teach the people of a tribe that had accepted Islaam. These
Sahabah ψ were however waylaid at a place called Raj'ee.


11.) There is a Hadith in which states, ”convey, perhaps the
listener understands more than the speaker”.
This also
refers to Muslims to Muslims. The Muhaaditheen (scholars
and compilers of Ahadeeth themselves state that although
they are compilers, the ‘fuqahaa’ (jurists) understand the
meaning in greater depths.


12.) There is an extremely important Hadith which states ‘convey
3
from me, even if it be an Aayat”.
4
2
This is so general that
Muslim and non-Muslims can be inferred there from.
13.) This single Hadith is sufficient to relate most, if not all
objections regarding Dawat and Tabligh.

Ref:-


1
2
3
4
Ibn Is'haaq, as quoted Al Bidaaya wan Nihaaya (Vol.4 Pg.63).
Bukhaari, (Vol.1 Pg.8). Refer to Rasulullaah ρ's sermon during his farewell Hajj.
Tirmidhi – Hadith 9902.
Bukhaari – Hadith 3461.


Tabligh, Dawaat, Jihaad, Qitaal
Tabligh, Dawaat, Jihaad, QitaalTabligh, Dawaat, Jihaad, Qitaal
Tabligh, Dawaat, Jihaad, Qitaal



The Hadith quoted above makes the duty and responsibility of
teaching the Deen upon every Muslim, irrespective of where the
Muslim is staying, whether the Muslim is Arab or non-Arab, qualified
or not qualified. It applies to doctor and patient, teacher and
student, judge and jury, ruler and subject.

If this was strictly adhered to then there would have been very few
ignorant ones left. Moreover during the Hajj, Nabi ρ stated clearly
the duty and responsibility of Muslims (i.e. those who are present
should convey to those who are absent).


Furthermore, in Surah Yusuf, Allaah explains in no uncertain words
the work of Muslims who adhere to the teaching and way of Nabi ρ,
saying, “Say, this is my way, calling to Allaah with conviction (insight,
foresight, wisdom) I and those who follow me and I am not one
amongst those ascribing partners to Allaah.
1


Even the neighbour has rights to be fulfilled. We mention a narration
which urges us to be vigilant and try our best to improve the morals
of the neighbour who is backward and ignorant of religious
knowledge.

"Allaamah Bin Abdul Rahman
Gا )Dر narrated to us saying that his
father, Abdul Rahmaan, reported on the authority of his father
Ahza Khuza’ee that one day, Allaah’s Rasool ρ said : “(In a special
sermon) What has happened to those whom Allaah Ta’ala has blessed
with the knowledge and understanding of Imaan that in their
neighbourhood live such backward people who are devoid of it and
they make no effort to impart the knowledge of Imaan and promote

Ref:-


1
2
Bukhaari (Vol.1 Pg.8).
Surah Yusuf, verse 108.


awareness of it in them? They neither give good advice to them nor
discharge the duty of promoting what is lawful and forbidding what
is prohibited? And what has happened to the (ignorant and
backward) people that they neither bother to learn about Imaan, nor
try to get advice from their neighbours? By Allaah! It is the duty of
those (possessing the knowledge and understanding of Imaan) to
make effort to teach the Imaan to their (backward and ignorant)
neighbours, give them good counsel and exhort them to do what is
good and lawful and prevent them from what is wrong and forbidden.
In the same way, the ignorant and backward neighbours, like seekers
of knowledge should themselves take steps to seek knowledge and
understanding of Imaan from their neighbours. And if none of the
two categories of men will NOT do their duty Allaah will then
severely punish them in this very world.


Thus Tabligh means to enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, to
educate, to learn, to preach, to propagate and to convey the teaching
of Deen in any permissible Shar'i method. The closer the method is
to the Sunnah, the more rewarding it will be. The nearer the method
is to the Sunnah, the more effective it will be. Once Tabligh starts,
then Da'wah (inviting with active interaction between parties) will
surely result. On instruction of Nabi ρ, the Sahabah ψ personally
made Tabligh, even during battles. Jihaad was used as the last resort
(when dialogue failed), which at times resulted in ‘Qitaal’ (martyrdom
for the Muslims and Jahannam for those who were killed in the state
of rejection). All this was done in 3 days. The matter was vested via
Tabligh, Da'wah and Jihaad.

Thus we have the following facts in front of us. There were 27
“Ghazwa” during the life of Rasulullaah ρ and approximately 56
“Sarriya". Ghazwa is that Jihaad expedition in which Nabi ρ himself
took part while Sarriya is that Jihaad expedition which was
dispatched by Nabi ρ without him joining. In total 259 Sahabah ψ


1
were martyred and 759 Kuffaar were killed. This was all during the
lifetime of Nabi ρ.

The above proves that the thrust was on Tabligh, Da'wah, and
Jihaad. Qitaal (fighting) was the last resort. When we look at the
Shar'i meaning and implications of Jihaad, one will realise that to
protect one’s Imaan, defend one’s Islaam, to practice upon Islaam in
a non-conducive environment, to enjoin what is good and forbid what
is evil, to exert oneself above the normal routine, to strive in the
path of Allaah with ones life, time and wealth, to study, teach and
learn means to be in the path of Allaah. All these stated fall within
the broader definition of Jihaad.


Once Hadhrat Ji )DرGا addressed a special gathering of the Ulema of the Bijnur district
as follows, "All the delegations and armies that were dispatched by Sayyiduna
Rasulullaah ρ to various areas and tribes were for the sake of Da'wah. According to one
narration, the total number of expeditions undertaken during the time of Sayyiduna
Rasulullaah ρ equals 23. According to another narration, 39 expeditions took place. Of
these, only nine took place for the purpose of fighting. The remaining were explicitly
for the purpose of Da'wah. Only in one expedition did Sayyiduna Rasulullaah ρ personally injure
a disbeliever."

Here we wish to show the thoroughness with which Hadhrat Ji had studied Seerah. Such
facts can only be known after an exhaustive study of the subject. {Biography of Hadhrat
Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Sahib – Amire Tabligh, pgs. 79, 80}


Is it permissible to sleep in the Masjid?
Is it permissible to sleep in the Masjid?Is it permissible to sleep in the Masjid?
Is it permissible to sleep in the Masjid?



Before Hadhrat Abdullaah bin Umar (R.A) married, he used to stay in
the Masjid.

Nabi ρ also made I'tikaaf in the Masjid, slept and ate in the Masjid,
10, 20 and 30 days are proven.
1

Thus ‘fuqaha’ made various classifications of I'tikaaf; Waajib,
Sunnah Mu'akkadah and Nafl are the famous types. There are many
benefits of staying in the Masjid. Only a person not knowledgeable
about Deen will make such objections for the mere reason of
creating unnecessary chaos.
2
Why make Ghust even in the day?
Why make Ghust even in the day?Why make Ghust even in the day?
Why make Ghust even in the day?



It is stated in Sura Muzammil, “Verily you have in the day an
intensive lengthy task (of inviting)”
. In fact the literal translation of
the Aayat refers to “most surely, you have in the brightness of the
day, a lengthy swim”. Obviously here it does not mean a mere swim
but just as a swimmer moves up and down in fact, weaving and
turning, moving from side to side, the “daa'ee" (Da'wah giver, here in
this case, Nabi ρ) is advised to move amongst the people for the
purpose of inviting. That is why we see him ρ going from house to
house, individual to individual, crowd to crowd, tent to tent, in the
day and in the night, inviting towards Allaah. After the Kuffaar once
harassed Nabi ρ, Hadhrat Faatimah
* Gا HIر came to wipe off dust from
his forehead. He then told her that we will take this Kalimah from
tent to tent, street to street, town to town, city to city, until it
reaches every house of baked and unbaked bricks and in every nook
and corner of the world.

Ref:-

1
2
3
4
Bukhaari – pg. 587 Hadith 7030, Abu Dawood – pg. 334 Hadith 385.
Bukhaari pg. 158
Surah Muzammil, verse 7.
Ahmad (Vol.4 Pg.103) and (Vol.6 Pg.4).


Is this work Fardh?
Is this work Fardh?Is this work Fardh?
Is this work Fardh?



All the scholars are unanimous that to learn Deen, to teach Deen and
to act upon Deen is Fardh (Obligatory). Muslims must face reality.
Before he realises it, time passes so quickly by that he is married,
involved in earning a livelihood and having children whereas he does
not know simple, basics of Islaam. So many inhabitants of Muslim
countries do not know even the first Kalimah, doctors do not know
the fardh (obligatory) things in ghusl, teachers do not know the
fardh of wudhu, engineers do not know what makes Zakaat fardh,
factory owners know very little of business, business men know
practically nothing of Shar'i transactions. Do we expect the
ignorant, elderly ones to go back to Madressah and enrol in the Darul
Uloom.

Allaah, the Merciful, has provided a simple method. It is to go out in
the path of Allaah, not primarily to reform others but to change
one’s own direction from the world to the Aakhirah, from the
created things to the Creator of things, from materialism to
spiritualism. Once the focus changes, the person knows what he has
been created for, then the enthusiasm to seek Ilm, will automatically
develop. Now we will have Muslim doctors, teachers, engineers and
business men who will lead Islaamic lives. Deen will become alive in
the surgery, class room, office and factory.

When one analyses the activities of the Tabligh Jamaat, their day
and night actions, their methods and systems, one will be forced to
admit that in today’s time it is the only mobile ‘madrassah’ and mobile
‘Khanqah’. Without being biased, observe the successes of any other
movement, organisation or set-up and compare that to the Tabligh
Jamaat. One realises that for the average common Muslim, the
Tabligh Jamaat is the most effective means for their self–

reformation and spiritual improvement. When one assesses, keep the
whole world in view.

DIVINELY INSPIRED MOMENT
The editor of "Tarjuman - e - Islam", the official weekly organ of the Jami'atul Ulema - e -
Islam (West Pakistan) wrote the following article on the demise of Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر with the
caption, "A Great Loss for the Islamic World".
"Allaah Ta'ala inspired the heart of Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Ilyas Sahib Gا )Dر with
the principles and modus operandi of the Tablighi Jamaat. This effort is a completely safe
and extremely beneficial method of propagating the Deen. In a short period of time, it has
filled the Islamic world with a series of religious concern. Outwardly it seems to be a very
simple effort, but in reality, it is a very high form of spiritual training to restrain carnal
desires."
"It is not an easy task to encourage the rich and the poor, the pious and the evil, the
soft - natured and the hard - natured to frequent the Masjid as practical Muslims and to
accustom them to the environment of our pious predecessors. Many high profile government
officials and professionals are reviving the practice of our pious predecessors of leaving their
home for the sake of Deen."
"The discourses of Hadhrat Moulana Mohammad Yusuf Sahib Gا )Dر were mostly divinely
inspired. He was always aided with divine help. His followers continuously experience
miraculous conditions. All this proves his truthfulness and sincerity."
The above review of the leader of Jami'atul Ulema - e - Islam, Hadhrat Moulana Ghulam
Ghauth Sahib, clearly indicates his acknowledgement and confidence in the promising
results of the Tablighi effort. {Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Sahib – Amire
Tabligh, pgs.395, 396}


Is the Tabligh Jamaat against the Khanqah and
Is the Tabligh Jamaat against the Khanqah and Is the Tabligh Jamaat against the Khanqah and
Is the Tabligh Jamaat against the Khanqah and
Darul Uloom?
Darul Uloom?Darul Uloom?
Darul Uloom?



The above question is ludicrous even to ask. Only those who have not
understood the importance of Tabligh Jamaat, Khanqah or Darul
Uloom can make such weird statements. Look carefully at those in
the fore front of the Khanqah’s, those spearheading the Darul
Uloom. Where are their roots? Where did they start? Where did
they gain their status and position in Deen? Where did they get
popularity? What did they use as their springboards to the position
they are in ?

Let us consider one single simple call, “Brothers, make your child a
Hafiz and Aalim ba Amal (practising pious Alim)” From which quarters
does this call mostly emerge? In fact the Tabligh Jamaat repeat this
so often that one can easily say without fear that they do it more
often than Darul Ulooms or Khanqah’s. This is natural, for the Darul
Uloom or Khanqah do not have as many opportunities to say it.

Yes, our humble request is, join the Khanqah but still give your time,
you are more valuable now. Go to the Darul Uloom, but academically
aid the Tabligh Jamaat, encourage them, your input and going out has
tremendous impact on all. We make duaa each effort understands
one another, works in co-ordination with one another and joins hands
to compliment one another.










Hadhrat Mufti Azeezur Rahmaan Bijnori writes: "Hadhrat Moulana Mohammed Yusuf Sahib
began teaching while he was a student. This remained his beloved occupation until the end of
his life. He spent the time which remained after lecturing, supervising the movement of
Jamaats and writing and teaching students.

Once I complained to him that I was tired of teaching. I wished to place my responsibility of
teaching on some capable person so that I could proceed in the path of Allah for a few
days. On this he said, "Never ever. Before Tabligh you should teach and after Tabligh also
you should teach. People say that we are against the running of madaaris. This is an error on
their part. We regard teaching as one of the fundamental duties. Our involvement in
teaching proves this. We wish involvement in teaching to be combined with Tabligh".
{Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Sahib – Amire Tabligh, pg.77}
Honouring of Ties
Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر used to honour anything or any person connected to the Akaabir (elders).
Whenever a Jamaat's route was made towards Thanah Bhowan, Deoband, Ambhatah,
Kandhlah, Amrohah, etc., he used to advise them as follows, "These are the places of the elders.
It is necessary to show the utmost respect."
Ijtimas were held at these places without attaching any conditions. The Ijtima of Kandhlah was
approved of, but was held after the demise of Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر. This Ijtima was held only out of
respect for the elders of Kandhlah. Similar was the Ijtima of Amrohah. Hadrat Ji Gا )Dر
remarked, "These are the places of the friends of Allaah and our elders. They have a right upon
us."
When any person associated to Hadhrat Madani, Hadhrat Thanwi or Hadhrat Raipuri *)DرGا used to
visit Basti Nizamuddeen, Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر used to become extremely happy. His happiness
used to resemble the one expressed on the day of Eid. Once Moulana As'ad Sahib 
ادآ came
to Nizamuddeen for some personal work. Hadhrat Ji Gا )Dر insisted on him to lengthen his
stay and prepared a variety of dishes for him. {Biography of Hadhrat Moulana Muhammad Yusuf
Sahib – Amire Tabligh, pgs.147,148}

Other lessons learnt from preaching i
Other lessons learnt from preaching iOther lessons learnt from preaching i
Other lessons learnt from preaching in
n n
n Taa'if
Taa'ifTaa'if
Taa'if ?
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1.) In ‘Harakat’ (movement for Deen) there is Barakat (Blessing
of Allaah).
2.) Hijrat (movement away from locality) for Deen results in the
spreading of Deen.
3.) Hijrat plus Nusrat gives Hidaayat.
4.) Hijrat and Da'wah are important factors in Deen.
5.) Da'wah and duaa are the wings Of Deen
6.) The ‘Rahbeer’ (guide) in this case was Hadhrat Zaid bin
Haarithah τ
7.) Bases from which Tabligh and Daawat can take place should
be established.
8.) Look at the Creator of the causes not the cause for success.
9.) Never be despondent of the results, its fluctuation will
surely happen.
10.) Tabligh and Da'wah on foot is far more effective.
Final earnest appeal :
Final earnest appeal :Final earnest appeal :
Final earnest appeal :



This appeal goes out to the members of the Tabligh Jamaat, you are
watched, observed, screened and assessed. You should set an
example of good behaviours and excellent character, your personality
should be outstanding and spotless. Do not act in a manner that is
going to harm yourself and the work. Accommodate others and do
not look down on anyone. Just think about where you were and where
you could have been, focus especially on your financial transactions
and business dealings, let them be in accordance with Shariat. Keep
to time, fulfil your promises and honour your pledges, reform
yourselves and your family simultaneously. Be watchful over your
children and respect the Ulema, old or young. Do not classify anyone
as 'our man' and 'his man', all are ours. Do not side line and look pass
the Ulema who are not active in the work. Greet them, meet them, and brief them of the latest activities. Make them feel part of the
effort and then they will become sympathetic.

Avoid such actions and words that will be the cause of members
leaving the work. Serve and avoid being served. Smile and invite and
greet. You are here not to force but to explain. Give Da'wah and
make duaa. Be positive and focus your attentions for the whole world.
Be steadfast and make duaa for the pleasure of Allaah. Win the
hearts of your companions and accept abuse with a smile. Do not
waste time in futile activities and vain discussions. Know that every
call to Islaam need not be correct, valid or beneficial to Deen. Do not
be ever-ready to support any body calling to Deen without proper
verification. Make major decisions by Mashwera (Islaamic
consultation). Invite the sinners and transgressing folk, but do not
sit and totally befriend them. Avoid Haraam and consume only what
is Halaal. Be aware that following an error is error itself.

Read with understanding, read attentively, and listen properly.
Proofs are going by without you realising it. Do not smile in a
hypocritical manner, let there be a smile on the face and in the
heart. Do not smile but think ill of the person in the heart. The more
you practice on Deen, the more effective it will be in your invitation.
Avoid shaking hands with the tips and front of the hand. This is ‘no’
act of piety, use both hands.

Give Shari based opinions and not motivated ones. Avoid looking for
the centre stage and prominence. Work hard and try to avoid the
lime light. Da'wah does not depend on dynamic, emotional or
sentimental speeches. Its thrust lies in sincerity, humility and
devotion. Fulfil the rights of others, do not indulge in haraam, and
avoid too much company in wealthy circles. Be simple, remain humble,
internally and externally. Do not project fake humility, be truly
humble.
You have an important role to play, do it properly. Avoid giving the
impression that only you know what is happening whilst the rest have
not understood the purpose of life. Know always that there is
someone more pious, more knowledgeable, stronger, cleverer and
better than you.

Create goodness around you and within you. Every situation and
circumstance has its secrets and wisdom, try to understand these.
Difficulties, problems, pride, arrogance, fights, quarrels,
misunderstandings starts when the concept of ‘I am better’ is voiced
or hidden in the heart. Keep looking at the heart constantly and
redirect it for validity of intention. Your intentions and actions
should be done with sincerity. Be regular in devotional Ibaadah and
let your tongue be wet with the Dhikr of Allaah. Observe the good in
people and pray for the forgiveness of all.

The main complaints that keep recurring are :-
1.) Lack of discipline with regard to time.
2.) Haughtiness. Remember - Shaytaan was ruined because of
pride. Do not stick to groups of familiar faces only. Mix with
the crowd and encourage new-comers to feel comfortable.
Especially other visiting non-workers. Islaam has discipline.
Submitting means controlling one’s nafs. Leave futile and
unnecessary laughing. These are ploys of Shaytaan to mislead
you – for surely Shaytaan fears for your success more than
you might realise. The work you are doing is great. Do not let
Shaytaan succeed in pouring water over the lantern you
carry. Protect it and nurture it and Insha Allaah you will be
successful.

[AbdAllah313]

how is it so?

do you know what ummumi gusht is?


Yea U just read my above post or read the book " Tabligh Made Easy"

[The Fake Shaykh]

:salam:

Just come back from 3 days and i'm fairly suprised that masha'allah the thread has remained on the topic and ain't diverted as has been the usual case for the last few years alhumdulillah, Its good to see so many bro's who have got a good understanding of the work.

Daleel can be given for all of the questions raised, but all i want to say is only when a person goes out with the right intention, if the principles of the work are stuck to, then insha'allah the work will open up to you, and only then the real understanding of this effort of deen will open up to you.

So anyone who lives in london and wants to spend some time in jammat is welcome to join me next month for 3 days (including bro london786);)

[pluto]

:salam:

Just back from 3 days too, thanks to Allah SWT for accepting.

A humble suggestion to brothers shahid mujawar, abu tamim, and ahamed shariff, fake shaykh for every question there is an answer and for every answer there is a question, so refrain from getting into q & a sessions, the only cure is to leave in khurooj and seek the answers for themselves, "lag jaana asal nahi, lage rehna asal hai" goes one the sayings of the markaz (on steadfastness), man would get the answers if he only truly seeks and knurooj is not the only thing, more important are the 5 aamals, whats strange though is this 'know-all' attitude from one of the senior members, he needs to seriously stick with the elders, and thats also an advice of ml ilyasji rh, read his malfuzat. this is my first and last post on this thread. move on guys :-)

[AbdAllah313]

:salam:

Just come back from 3 days and i'm fairly suprised that masha'allah the thread has remained on the topic and ain't diverted as has been the usual case for the last few years alhumdulillah, Its good to see so many bro's who have got a good understanding of the work.

Daleel can be given for all of the questions raised, but all i want to say is only when a person goes out with the right intention, if the principles of the work are stuck to, then insha'allah the work will open up to you, and only then the real understanding of this effort of deen will open up to you.

So anyone who lives in london and wants to spend some time in jammat is welcome to join me next month for 3 days (including bro london786);)


how is it so?

do you know what ummumi gusht is?


:salam:

Just back from 3 days too, thanks to Allah SWT for accepting.

A humble suggestion to brothers shahid mujawar, abu tamim, and ahamed shariff, fake shaykh for every question there is an answer and for every answer there is a question, so refrain from getting into q & a sessions, the only cure is to leave in khurooj and seek the answers for themselves, "lag jaana asal nahi, lage rehna asal hai" goes one the sayings of the markaz (on steadfastness), man would get the answers if he only truly seeks and knurooj is not the only thing, more important are the 5 aamals, whats strange though is this 'know-all' attitude from one of the senior members, he needs to seriously stick with the elders, and thats also an advice of ml ilyasji rh, read his malfuzat. this is my first and last post on this thread. move on guys :-)

I am trying to clarify doubts that's it I am not and I don't want to argue , debate nothing
If you say then I will stop this

[The Fake Shaykh]

I am trying to clarify doubts that's it I am not and I don't want to argue , debate nothing
If you say then I will stop this

Bro i'm not doubting your intentions, and yes sometimes some misconceptions can be cleared up, but sometimes the "proofs in the pudding".

But at the same time some exaggerations also need to be cleared up, my advice is to read this absolutly brilliant article by our Shaykh ‘Abul Hasan ‘Ali Nadwi:rahma: http://www.ilmgate.org/an-important-principle-to-save-distortion-of-din-and-the-workers-of-din-from-exaggeration-and-clashes/ . (You will have to read this a few times to grasp the meaning of the article)

This should not be used by anyone as a tool to attack someone else or the "other group".

Please read as a sincere reader and you will insha'allah understand the real meaning of the word "balance".

[xs11ax]

I am trying to clarify doubts that's it I am not and I don't want to argue , debate nothing
If you say then I will stop this

im not trying to argue either. all i am trying to say is that everything does not have to be directly from hadith, as long as it does not go against the deen. some things are just common sense.

can you show me a hadith where the prophet :saw: appointed an ameer, a rehbar and a mutakkalim and then sent them to do tabligh amongst the muslims?

[AbdAllah313]

im not trying to argue either. all i am trying to say is that everything does not have to be directly from hadith, as long as it does not go against the deen. some things are just common sense.

can you show me a hadith where the prophet :saw: appointed an ameer, a rehbar and a mutakkalim and then sent them to do tabligh amongst the muslims?

brother yes there are lot of Hadith regarding this

You just read "Tabligh Made Easy" you will get everything.

or you read Muntakahab Hadith Book you will get hadith in that

[AbdAllah313]

im not trying to argue either. all i am trying to say is that everything does not have to be directly from hadith, as long as it does not go against the deen. some things are just common sense.

can you show me a hadith where the prophet :saw: appointed an ameer, a rehbar and a mutakkalim and then sent them to do tabligh amongst the muslims?

Nabi ρ was the Ameer and the Mutakallim (speaker – chosen for
that occasion). The Hadith of Nabi ρ is very clear on the matter
that when travelling, one person should be made the Ameer,
especially when there are more than three people. Hadhrat Abu Sa'eed Khudri τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said, "When three
persons set out on a journey, they should appoint one of them as
Ameer."
Thus, to have small Jamaats with their respective
Ameers is conclusively proven. Subsequently, the whole system of
“Mushwera” (Islaamic method and system of mutual consultation)
as done in various stages by the Tabligh Jamaat is also
automatically proven and given credibility. The concept of
“Mutakallim” is also adequately substantiated by the above event
in History.

Bukhaari (Vol.1 Pg.124). The Hadith is also narrated by Imaam Ahmad (Vol.3 Pg.479)
and Bayhaqi (Vol.9 Pg.162).
Abu Dawood – Kitaabul Jihaad, Hadith 2608.
Surah Aal Imraan, verse 31.

[sabm90]

Assalamu alaykum

One has the right to have difference of opinion depending on once own ijitahaad.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A question was asked to Mufti Mahmoodul Hasan Saheb Gangohi Rahmatullahi alayha.

Q: Whether going in Tableeghi Jamaat and inviting people towards salah is jihaad?

Reply: Jihaad is to take pains and put efforts for deen. There are many forms of it, what Tableeg Jamaath is practising is one among them. The best jehaad is to offer their lives and get accepted in the path of Allah SWT; which is possible only in qitaal with enemies of Islam.

Alharar alabd Mahmood gafarlahu; Darul Uloom Deoband 24/1/88 AH,
extracts from Fatawah Mahmoodiyah, vol.12 page 235-250)

I disagree and i have with me many scholars.
Tableeghi jamat doesnt fall under the banner of Jihad.

[sabm90]

:salam:

I think the opinions will be according to the situation of the time, person's condition, etc ?

Who has doubts about tableeghi jamat should read Tableeghi Jamat aur Uski Sharaai Haisiyath (by Moulana Zakarriyya Sahab Rahmatullahi Alayh).

You can find refutations to this book even by the deobandi scholars.

[Abu_Tamim]

I disagree and i have with me many scholars.
Tableeghi jamat doesnt fall under the banner of Jihad.

:salam:
It does not fall under the banner of Jihad in the sense of Qitaal. Otherwise it is Jihad al-Nafs.

[sabm90]

:salam:
It does not fall under the banner of Jihad in the sense of Qitaal. Otherwise it is Jihad al-Nafs.

Jihad in its laghwi sense and not in the istelahi sense!

[Abu_Tamim]

Jihad in its laghwi sense and not in the istelahi sense!

Jihad in both senses includes fighting against one's own nafs as well. It is a different thing that it is not Jihad in the sense of fighting the Kuffar and the work of tableegh can neither replace it nor equal it.
:ws:

[sabm90]

Jihad in both senses includes fighting against one's own nafs as well. It is a different thing that it is not Jihad in the sense of fighting the Kuffar and the work of tableegh can neither replace it nor equal it.
:ws:

Jihad in the istelahi sense only have 1 meaning and thats fighitng against the kafir.

[xs11ax]

Nabi ρ was the Ameer and the Mutakallim (speaker – chosen for
that occasion). The Hadith of Nabi ρ is very clear on the matter
that when travelling, one person should be made the Ameer,
especially when there are more than three people. Hadhrat Abu Sa'eed Khudri τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said, "When three
persons set out on a journey, they should appoint one of them as
Ameer."
Thus, to have small Jamaats with their respective
Ameers is conclusively proven. Subsequently, the whole system of
“Mushwera” (Islaamic method and system of mutual consultation)
as done in various stages by the Tabligh Jamaat is also
automatically proven and given credibility. The concept of
“Mutakallim” is also adequately substantiated by the above event
in History.

Bukhaari (Vol.1 Pg.124). The Hadith is also narrated by Imaam Ahmad (Vol.3 Pg.479)
and Bayhaqi (Vol.9 Pg.162).
Abu Dawood – Kitaabul Jihaad, Hadith 2608.
Surah Aal Imraan, verse 31.


:salam:

you are clutching at straws.

i asked you can you to show me a hadith where the prophet :saw: appointed an ameer, a rehbar and a mutakkalim and then sent them to do tabligh amongst the muslims.

instead you tell me...


Nabi ρ was the Ameer and the Mutakallim (speaker – chosen for that occasion).

what has that got to do with the tarteeb of ummumi gusht which is made up of a MINIMUM of 3 people and different people are assigned as ameer, mutakallim and rehbar and then go door to door to houses of muslims?

then you jump to...


The Hadith of Nabi ρ is very clear on the matter that when travelling, one person should be made the Ameer, especially when there are more than three people. Hadhrat Abu Sa'eed Khudri τ narrates that Rasulullaah ρ said, "When three persons set out on a journey, they should appoint one of them as Ameer."

did the Prophet :saw: and sahaba (rd) appoint an ameer when going out in the local neighborhood to talk to and remind muslims of their obligations as a muslim? i have no problem with having an ameer for ummumi gusht, in fact it is a very good idea, but can you show me where the prophet :saw: did this when going out in the local neighborhood?


Thus, to have small Jamaats with their respective Ameers is conclusively proven.

i didnt say its not. but can you show me where they did this when going out in the local neihborhood?


Subsequently, the whole system of “Mushwera” (Islaamic method and system of mutual consultation) as done in various stages by the Tabligh Jamaat is also automatically proven and given credibility.

i didnt say anything about mashwera so it is not relevant here.


The concept of “Mutakallim” is also adequately substantiated by the above event in History.

obviously someone had to talk, but did they choose a specific person to talk or were they all free to talk?


again i dont have a problem with the adaab and manner of gusht. all i am saying is that each individual act does not need to be exactly from the sunnah as long as they dont go against the sunnah.

can you give a hadith where peoples names were written down in a book after a bayan?

[faizanakram99]

Asslamualykum Wa Rehamtullahi Wa Barkatuhu....

Dear Brother's and Sister's If you have any doubts about work of Tablig Jamat ask your questions inshaallah will try to answer it from Quran and HADIS...
What is tablighi jamaat?