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UmmIbrahimIsa
09-08-2004, 08:35 PM
Assalamu alaikum wr wb

wanted to know how the event turned out so i searched for the article online and found this below... im a bit disturbed by it, wondering where some of these ppl *think* that its ok for women to perform in public in front of non mahram men..? err.. read below...

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Festival rules making waves
Views clash on what Islamic culture is
Just call it a Saudi fest, critic says


NICHOLAS KEUNG
IMMIGRATION/DIVERSITY REPORTER

Who is hijacking whose Islam?

That is the centre of a debate between the organizers of a Muslim festival and its critics on the eve of the event in Mississauga tomorrow that bans women vocalists, string instruments and the depiction of human faces in artwork.

While the MuslimFest 2004 organizers — most of them Muslim youth born and raised in Canada — say they only go by their interpretation of the Sharia Islamic law, other argue that those restrictions are the way they see their religion.


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See also: Rallying cry for Muslims in Canada



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The joint event by Young Muslims Canada, Sound Vision and Dawanet, to be held all day at the Mississauga Living Arts Centre tomorrow, includes puppet shows, Islamic art exhibits, workshops, films and two live concerts featuring male Muslim performers such as Dawud Wharnsby Ali, Sami Yusuf, Zain Bhikha and Irfan Makki.


"All the performances will be in English. The youth in our community have a real passion to showcase to Muslims and non-Muslims what the Islamic culture has to offer," said event spokesperson Azhar Qureshi. "They are proud of being Muslim. They are proud of being Canadian. And they want to bring our culture to the mainstream."

Visual artist Asma Arshad Mahmood said she was impressed when she received an invitation.

But then she read the guidelines:

"No hand-drawn faces. Silhouettes may be acceptable in some cases.... Photographs of people will be allowed if they conform to the contents allowed by Sharia."

"Songs performance can be male voices only and include Daff (Arabic camel drum) if needed."

"I was thinking to myself, `You must be joking. That's not my Islamic culture,'" recalled Mahmood, a mother of three girls who has had her multimedia artworks exhibited at the Royal Ontario Museum.

"I feel like my culture and religion are hijacked by people who are trying to define the Arabic culture as the only Islamic culture."

Tarek Fateh, host of the Muslim Chronicle weekly show on Vision TV, said the event excludes the rich cultures of other Muslims from the Persian Gulf, Africa and Asia, who do welcome female vocalists, paintings of human beings and string instruments.

"They (the organizers) have the rights to do what they do, what they believe in, but we also have our rights to tell them that they cannot determine what is a valid or invalid Islamic culture," said the 55-year-old Fateh, who is of Pakistani background. "They should just call the event a Saudi fest, not a Muslim fest,."she added.

Fareheen Chowdhury, chair of the organizing committee for the event, said Young Muslims volunteers have spent eight months putting the festival together in order to "present Islam to Muslims and non-Muslims through artistic medium that can transcend religious and cultural boundaries."

Chowdhury, 23, said there will be 125 pieces of art in the exhibition by more than 30 artists, the majority of them women. Few submissions have been turned away, she said.

"We are using our faith as our guiding principles. All those things come from our holy book of Qu'ran," she said. "We don't want to hide the truth. We are dealing with people from different backgrounds, people from various cultures."

She said the organizers have been criticized from all sides of the community, with the progressives calling them too conservative and the conservatives describing them as being too liberal.

"The fact is there are diverse opinions in Islam. The beauty of Islam is we are a pluralistic religion," Chowdhury said.

Reem Meshal, a former lecturer on Islamic law at the University of Toronto and McGill University, said debates like this are healthy and they simply show the diversity within the Muslim community.

Meshal said the traditional interpretation of Sharia encompasses all five legal schools in Islam: Hanafi, Maliki, Shasi'i, Hanbali and Shia Ja'afari.

The concept of the Islamic law, which is traditionally defined and interpreted by Fuqaha (Muslim intellectuals), is "dynamic, flexible and changing with the times," she added.

"Unfortunately, what is happening today is you have a lot of laypersons informing what the modern conception of the Sharia should be."


The festival runs from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. at the Living Arts Centre near Highway 10 and Burnhamthorpe Rd

Mossy
09-08-2004, 08:53 PM
What's a Shasi'i?

It's impermissable for males to perform in front of non-mehram females, right?


Tarek Fateh, host of the Muslim Chronicle weekly show on Vision TV, said the event excludes the rich cultures of other Muslims from the Persian Gulf, Africa and Asia, who do welcome female vocalists, paintings of human beings and string instruments.

Well, it does.. Doesn't it?

Muawiyah
09-08-2004, 08:56 PM
The reporter seems totally confused, wonder what he means by:

(organizers) say they only go by their interpretation of the Sharia Islamic law, other argue that those restrictions are the way they see their religion.

What's the difference between ones "interpretation of Shariah" and "way of seeing their religion", aren't both the same? Looks like an attempt to make something out of nothing.

UmmIbrahimIsa
10-08-2004, 12:15 AM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

that's just the thing just "CUZ" other places allow it or other countries allow female singers to sing out in public in front of male non mahrams, doesnt make it alright or halal... if that was the case im sure tons of sisters hijabi or non hijabi, niqab or non niqabi would be out there trying out for 'american idol' or something, but since it is not permissible for women to sing out in front of non mahram men then why would they say so? just cuz others do it isnt good enough reason, its just an excuse.....

Zaid 'Abdur-Rahman
10-08-2004, 01:42 AM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

that's just the thing just "CUZ" other places allow it or other countries allow female singers to sing out in public in front of male non mahrams, doesnt make it alright or halal... if that was the case im sure tons of sisters hijabi or non hijabi, niqab or non niqabi would be out there trying out for 'american idol' or something, but since it is not permissible for women to sing out in front of non mahram men then why would they say so? just cuz others do it isnt good enough reason, its just an excuse.....



Precisely:

Just BECAUSE a few saudi's go to belly dancing bars in Egypt and drop thousands of dollars in a dancers garter doesn't me I can , right ? :cheesygri



RIGHT!!!!

This is probably one of the most infuriating things for Muslims in the west, everyone thinks that if a Muslim does it, it is automatically in accordance with everything Islam. It is unfortunate that this disease has spread to some Muslims, vis a vis western orientalists, is that every time a kafir suggests some western idea is good for Islam, every tom d!ck and hamza thinks that "Oh, the bidah suggested by the kafir is GOOD!".


People think that Islam is being "hijacked" by "Arab values".

Let us not forget 2 things:
1) Our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wasalaam was an ARAB, thus, he acted like an Arab, meaning his style of dress, speech, etc.
2)We, as Muslims are encouraged (some would say commanded) to follow his sunnah.

There are no "arab values" in Islam. Islam is the universal religion, fit for all people. If some Islamic values coincide with some arab values, who gives a flyin F?

Allahu Alim!

Zaid


Post script: Are the censors really necessary? :cheesygri

UmmIbrahimIsa
10-08-2004, 02:11 AM
assalamu alaikum wr wb

yup censors are necessary as this is an islamic discussion board so we have to act "islamically" meaning no swearing or cursing even if we're ticked off... and censors are good because it bleeps out what you're saying and even just by reading the swear word some ppl will say it without realizing it thus abusing their tongue by using it for a bad word...

also there are tons of people on here, young and young at heart and the very very young that post on here and read on here, and the censors are good for them as their parents will be monitoring what they do and what they read and by them reading a clean free board they'll be like this is a good place masha'Allah for muslims to go to, instead of saying how all are bad.

Zaid 'Abdur-Rahman
10-08-2004, 02:37 AM
:bism:

assalamu alaikum wr wb

yup censors are necessary as this is an islamic discussion board so we have to act "islamically" meaning no swearing or cursing even if we're ticked off... and censors are good because it bleeps out what you're saying and even just by reading the swear word some ppl will say it without realizing it thus abusing their tongue by using it for a bad word...

also there are tons of people on here, young and young at heart and the very very young that post on here and read on here, and the censors are good for them as their parents will be monitoring what they do and what they read and by them reading a clean free board they'll be like this is a good place masha'Allah for muslims to go to, instead of saying how all are bad.

Okay, point taken.

Any comments on the rest of my post?

Salaam,
Zaid