Tamil translation

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
I know, not many tamil speaking people are here but i hope those few here will help inshaaAllah.

'The second option (of relying on the opinion of a scholar from the past) is much more cautious.'

I sort of got headache looking for the right word for cautious here. Can anyone help?

PS: I think I will go with the word 'safe' here which sounds better.

wassalam

[amr123]

http://www.dictionary.tamilcube.com/index.aspx

I don't know how to read tamil, Got these using the above link:

Close Match and Related Words
cautious : கவனமுள்ள , எச்சரிக்கையாயிருக்கிற , விழிப்புடைய , முன்மதியுடைய . cautious : ஜாக்கிரதையான .
நினைப்பாயிருக்க , to be mindful , cautious , attentive .

[Servant.of.Allah]

Tamil is not a word by word translating language that u can google... it might change the meaning/content if you dont use appropriate workds

[mercyofAllah]

Tamil is not a word by word translating language that u can google... it might change the meaning/content if you dont use appropriate workds
:bism:
I think this goes with any language.

[Maripat]

Urdu : Muhtaat ( The one who is practcing ahtiyaat)
Hindi : Satark, Saawdhan, Chokanna

A Hindi Sign Board Around Roads : Saawdhani Hati, Durghantna Ghati (Caution Relaxed, Accident Occurs).

When you have got your prescription from the doctor you ask him about the precaution about food items. You say Kis cheez ka ahtiyaat karoon? What should I be cautions about - things forbidden to eat.

[Servant.of.Allah]

my mother tongue is Tamil, let me know what needs translation?

[mercyofAllah]

my mother tongue is Tamil, let me know what needs translation?
:bism:
Alhamdulillah
Kindly translate this

'The second option (of relying on the opinion of a scholar from the past) is much more cautious.'

PS: Oh if you have time, kindly translate translate this book http://www.siratalmustaqim.com/the-legal-status-of-following-a-madhab.html#nature
inshaaAllah this will be helpful for many. I have started translating part of it. If you are willing to work towards it, kindly inform.

[Servant.of.Allah]

'The second option (of relying on the opinion of a scholar from the past) is much more cautious.'

Rendavadhu karuhthu :
Entha karuththa nambaloda mundriya kaalathu A'alim/Maarga Aringar thelivu padithirindha - adhu romba sirandhadhum nambikkaiyanadhum .

[Servant.of.Allah]

Sister,

This took me 10 minutes to translate & I m so poor in translating tamil. I learnt hindi and french in school.

Me and my friend are starting to start this project on tranlsating deeni materials from eng to tamil. Insha Allah, i ll get back to you soon on this article.

[mercyofAllah]

'The second option (of relying on the opinion of a scholar from the past) is much more cautious.'

Rendavadhu karuhthu :
Entha karuththa nambaloda mundriya kaalathu A'alim/Maarga Aringar thelivu padithirindha - adhu romba sirandhadhum nambikkaiyanadhum .
:bism:
Well I wrote like this
இரண்டாவது தேர்வை தேர்ந்துடுப்பது (கடந்த கால அறிஞரின் கருத்தின் மேல் சார்வது) எச்சரிக்கைமிக்கதாக இருக்கிறது.
My grandpa is saying எச்சரிக்கைமிக்கதாக is right here but I am not that satisfied.

Khair my second language was also hindi. I am also kind of struggling with tamil as with any other language. Anyway I will translate and upload in my blog (http://www.theheartopener.wordpress.com/) and if anyone finds any correction, kindly do inform me.
wassalam

[Servant.of.Allah]

எச்சரிக்கைமிக்கதாக .

You cant use this. Its like warning here,. I think Sirandhadhu would suffice.
Scholars say that if some issue has been solved in the past, then we take that into consideration & not give new fatwas.

"Into Consideration" - Can we replace warning into this?

[Servant.of.Allah]

Amazing blog, is there any contact us page in your blog?

[mercyofAllah]

எச்சரிக்கைமிக்கதாக .

You cant use this. Its like warning here,. I think Sirandhadhu would suffice.
Scholars say that if some issue has been solved in the past, then we take that into consideration & not give new fatwas.

"Into Consideration" - Can we replace warning into this?
:bism:
I was thinking the same. Khair I will go just with sirandhadhu.

"Scholars say that if some issue has been solved in the past, then we take that into consideration & not give new fatwas."

கடந்த காலத்திலேயே சில விஷயங்களுக்கு தீர்வு காணப்பட்டால், அதையே நாம் கருத்தில் எடுத்துக் கொள்கிறோம் என்றும் புதிய ஃபத்வா அளிப்பதில்லை என்றும் அறிஞர்கள் கூறுகிறார்கள்.

I dont know if the translation is to an expected level. Kindly check it.

[Servant.of.Allah]

கடந்த காலத்திலேயே சில விஷயங்களுக்கு தீர்வு காணப்பட்டால், அதையே நாம் கருத்தில் எடுத்துக் கொள்கிறோம் என்றும் புதிய ஃபத்வா அளிப்பதில்லை என்றும் அறிஞர்கள் கூறுகிறார்கள்

Looks great. My tamil is very local, I cant translate like this. May Allah reward you

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
can anyone translate "independent source of law"

[Servant.of.Allah]

can u share the full sentence pls...

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
The statements above clarify that following an Imam or a Mujtahid does not entail believing the Mujtahid to be an independent source of law (Shari'ah), who has to be followed in totality.

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
I wrote like this
மேலேயுள்ள கூற்றுக்கள் ஒரு இமாமையோ ஒரு முஹ்தஹீதையோ பின்பற்றுவது முஜ்தஹீதை ஒரு தனிப்பட்ட சட்ட ஆதாரமாக (ஷரீ’அத்தாக), அவரை முழுவதுமாக பின்பற்ற வேண்டும் என்று நம்புவதாகப்படாது என தெளிவுப் படுத்துகிறது.

[Salman_Hanafi]

sister Mercy of Allah, are you going to to keep this thread active for a long time?

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
hmm at least as long as people are here to help me with tamil, I think inshaaAllah I will make use of this thread.

[Salman_Hanafi]

I see, JazakAllah

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
I wonder why you asked though. Do you know anyone who can help me. If you dont feel like replying, you dont have to.

[Salman_Hanafi]

There is no need to get offended.I asked because the urdu meaning thread has disappeared (which isnt a big deal as we can reactivate it if we want so sorry for this little interruption), but I am not blaming you, you have every right to this thread, Sorry to have intervened here, I will remain out of this thread in the future.

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
There is nothing to get offended and why should I.
Perhaps you misunderstood my post because of my poor English.
Sorry if my post came across as being offended.

[Salman_Hanafi]

No problem, the last sentence seemed like you took offense, thats why I wrote what I wrote, apologies for the misunderstanding.

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
It is indispensable in this age of scholastic bankruptcy.
How do we translate 'scholastic bankruptcy'?

PS: Solved

[Servant.of.Allah]

Sister,

முஜ்தஹீதை ஒரு தனிப்பட்ட சட்ட ஆதாரமாக (ஷரீ’அத்தாக)

its getting difficult to translate, I m thinking but not able to finalise.

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
It is indispensable in this age of scholastic bankruptcy.
How do we translate 'scholastic bankruptcy'?

PS: Solved

I think deficient can be used in place of bankrupt, what you think?

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
how to translate 'interpreter'
The dictionary is giving the meaning of mozhipeyerppaalar which I see it as translator but not interpreter.
interpreter is more like vilakkubavar.
is there a word like விளக்கவுரையாளர்?

[Servant.of.Allah]

விளக்கவுரையாளர் is not a word..

for driver we use Vaganam otubavar

for interpreter i think we can use Villakam kurubavar

[mercyofAllah]

I think deficient can be used in place of bankrupt, what you think?
:bism:
மேலும் கல்வியியல் நொடிக்கப்பட்ட இந்த காலத்தில் இன்றியமையாததுமாகும்.
scholastic bankruptcy is translated as the bold part.

[mercyofAllah]

விளக்கவுரையாளர் is not a word..

for driver we use Vaganam otubavar

for interpreter i think we can use Villakam kurubavar
:bism:
khair I modified the sentence like this
ஒருவரை சட்டத்தை விளக்குபவராக நம்புவதும்

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
The Imam whose opinion is followed is regarded as an interpreter.
Here how to translate the interpreter?

[Servant.of.Allah]

i think you can use the 'Vilakkubavar' looks like a noun

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
மேலும் கல்வியியல் நொடிக்கப்பட்ட இந்த காலத்தில் இன்றியமையாததுமாகும்.
scholastic bankruptcy is translated as the bold part.

will Marga Kalviyil....makes sense?

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
inshaaAllah I will note down the corrections.
The translation done so far has been uploaded here (http://theheartopener.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-nature-of-taqleed.pdf).

I would really appreciate if I could get any suggestion regarding any changes or typos etc.

wassalam

[mercyofAllah]

will Marga Kalviyil....makes sense?
:bism:
That seems right maashaaAllah

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
inshaaAllah I will note down the corrections.
The translation done so far has been uploaded here (http://theheartopener.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-nature-of-taqleed.pdf).

I would really appreciate if I could get any suggestion regarding any changes or typos etc.

wassalam

Shall I ask my Dad or mum to review? So that this deeni material gets into their mind too.
They are good in english and tamil scripts, its easy for them to put APPROPRIATE words.

[mercyofAllah]

Shall I ask my Dad or mum to review? So that this deeni material gets into their mind too.
They are good in english and tamil scripts, its easy for them to put APPROPRIATE words.
:bism:
It would be very helpful if anyone can help me inshaaAllah

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
When explaining the sanad of hadeeth, we say like very strong chain. Now can anyone say how do we say 'very strong chain' in tamil?

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
When explaining the sanad of hadeeth, we say like very strong chain. Now can anyone say how do we say 'very strong chain' in tamil?

I've heard scholars telling "Valuvaana Hadith" for strong chain and "Balageenamana Hadith" for weak.

I'm particular about the VERY STRONG CHAIN - sometimes they use the word SANAD directly i beleive

[mercyofAllah]

I've heard scholars telling "Valuvaana Hadith" for strong chain and "Balageenamana Hadith" for weak.

I'm particular about the VERY STRONG CHAIN - sometimes they use the word SANAD directly i beleive
:bism:
The problem is it is not about hadeeth but saying of a sahabi which came through strong chain. How to write?

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
The problem is it is not about hadeeth but saying of a sahabi which came through strong chain. How to write?

this is a word for that, I;m not getting that.

there is something specific to the person who announced the Hadith... I m not hearing tamil bayan's for past 3 years - thats why couldnt catch

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
I wrote 'lay person' as saadhaarana nabar/manidhar. Is there a better word for that?

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
I wrote 'lay person' as saadhaarana nabar/manidhar. Is there a better word for that?

yeah thats better word

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
Whats the tamil word for 'chain of narrators'?

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
Whats the tamil word for 'chain of narrators'?

Narrators- Arivipalargal
Chain of Narattors - i m thinking....

[Servant.of.Allah]

Narrators- Arivipalargal
Chain of Narattors - Arivipalargal Varusai(grammar mistakes included)

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
Khatib has narrated with his chain of narrators from Amr bin Qais
Can we say, Amr bin Qais avargalidamirundhu arivippaalargal vazhiye, Khatib arivikkiraar?

[mercyofAllah]

Narrators- Arivipalargal
Chain of Narattors - Arivipalargal Varusai(grammar mistakes included)
:bism:
This sounds good
Amr bin Qais avargalidamirundhu arivippaalargal varisayilirundhu, Khatib arivikkiraar??

PS: I am unable to make it out properly

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
Ok with help of someone here is what I could make it up
அம்ர் பின் கைஸ் அவர்களிடமிருந்து தனது அறிவிப்பாளர்களின் வரிசையிலிருந்து வந்ததாக கதீப் அறிவிக்கிறார்:

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
Also
very strong chain=miga valuvaana arivippin varisai??

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
This sounds good
Amr bin Qais avargalidamirundhu arivippaalargal varisayilirundhu, Khatib arivikkiraar??

PS: I am unable to make it out properly

Refer this, taken from Sahih Muslim. Would be useful for you.

8175

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
Ok with help of someone here is what I could make it up
அம்ர் பின் கைஸ் அவர்களிடமிருந்து தனது அறிவிப்பாளர்களின் வரிசையிலிருந்து வந்ததாக கதீப் அறிவிக்கிறார்:

this looks perfect, Can I send you the Sahih Muslim in tamil pdf. It would be more useful for you in getting CORRECT, APPROPRIATE WORDS

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
Normally in reference, there is cf which is common frame of reference I think. What is the tamil term for that?

[Servant.of.Allah]

Can you check some Tamil literature books... they might use it

[mercyofAllah]

Can you check some Tamil literature books... they might use it
:bism:
I have only English books. Khair I left it as cf. When I come to know in future, inshaaAllah I will include then.
Thanks for your help and suggestion.
wassalam

[Servant.of.Allah]

if you have time...try to google some online tamil books and see.

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
inshaaAllah I will try

[mercyofAllah]

:bism:
According to both schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi and Shai'fee)......
How do we normally people write schools here other than madhab?

[hmdsalahuddin]

:bism:
According to both schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi and Shai'fee)......
How do we normally people write schools here other than madhab?

Erandu Imamgal-in karattu badi or Erandu Aimmaagalin Karattu badi

Note: My tamil is not that good

[mercyofAllah]

Erandu Imamgal-in karattu badi or Erandu Aimmaagalin Karattu badi

Note: My tamil is not that good
:bism:
I thught it is not just imam's but the whole school of thought. Khair no problems I wrote as madhab bcos I thought it should mean the same.

[Servant.of.Allah]

:bism:
I thught it is not just imam's but the whole school of thought. Khair no problems I wrote as madhab bcos I thought it should mean the same.


for school for jurisprudence, we have a word I think.
I Tamil kitaabs in madarsah you will get that. Kindly get in touch with some sister studiny deeniyat or Alimah course in Tamil madarsah. They can help you

[mercyofAllah]

for school for jurisprudence, we have a word I think.
I Tamil kitaabs in madarsah you will get that. Kindly get in touch with some sister studiny deeniyat or Alimah course in Tamil madarsah. They can help you

:bism:
Unfortunately I dont have such contacts. Khair