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    HINDU WOMEN'S RIGHTS COMPARED TO MUSLIM WOMEN'S RIGHTS

    IN RESPONSE TO A HINDU MAN THAT CRITICIZED THE WAY MUSLIM WOMEN ARE TREATED. JUDGE FOR YOURSELF!

    Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem:

    As`salamualaikum Warahmutullahi Wabarakatuhu...
    I hope you all are in the best of health & iman inshallah.
    The Brahmins make a big campaign that Islam restricts the freedom of women. Let us compare the positions of the Hindu woman and the Muslim woman. See the following facts for comparison and then try to bring these Brahmins to their senses.

    The Hindu Woman:
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    1. The Hindu Woman has no right to divorce her husband.
    2. She has no property or inheritance rights.
    3. Choice of partner is limited because she can only marry within her own caste; moreover her horoscope must match that of the intending bridegroom/family.
    4. The family of the girl has to offer an enormous dowry to the bridegroom/family.
    5. If her husband dies she should commit Sati (being cremated with her dead husband). Since today's law forbids Sati, society mainly punishes her in other "holy" ways (see below).
    6. She cannot remarry.
    7. The widow is considered to be a curse and must not be seen in public.She cannot wear jewelry or colorful clothes. (She should not even take part in her children's marriage!)

    The Muslim Woman:
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    1. The Muslim woman has the same right as the Muslim man in all matters including divorce.
    2. She enjoys property and inheritance rights. (Which other religion grants women these rights?). She can also conduct her own separate business.
    3. She can marry any Muslim of her choice. If her parents choose a partner for her, her consent must be taken.
    4. The dowry in Islam is a gift from a husband to his wife (not the other way around)
    5. A Muslim widow is encouraged to remarry, and her remarriage is the responsibility of the Muslim society.
    6. Mixed marriage is encouraged and is a means to prevent racism creeping in society.
    7. A Muslim mother is given the highest form of respect.
    What right do the Hindus have to criticize the Muslims? Have you ever heard of a Muslim burning his wife? In India women die daily of dowry deaths, Hindu women being burnt by the husband or in-laws. It is a fact that upper caste Hindus ill-treat their women. The Brahmins are trying to claim that Muslims do not give freedom to their women. I ask you again. "Do the Hindus respect their women?"
    You be the judge.
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    As-Salamu alaykum

    I am looking for articles like this to put in my forum in the human rights section do you have more to do with women and Islam and do forth .....wasalams


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    walaikum salaam

    is it any thing specific, or just generaly rights of women in islam?
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    Good post Nafeesa.



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    Assalamu alaikum.

    sister Nafeesa,

    Tho God-willing you have come with a sincere intention and devotion to God in highlighting rights Allah has given to women in Islam.

    However I would like to point some thing if I may. It may well be that the author of the article taken certain things out of context from Hindu scripture/s, perheps confused certain customs practiced by Hindu community that has no basis in their religious sources, while some parts it says may well be true. Furthermore, the article is short and does not even give any reference.

    Thought I should bring that out as this is often done by attackers of Islam who take many things from the Quran and screw it. We dont like it because it is not true.

    In light of this I personally would not preach such an article.

    God knows best.


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    im sorry but i dnt understand why u have a problem with it? its just highlighting facts? i dnt see anything wrong with it, can u please elaborate
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    p.s i come from a place which is full of hindus (leicester) and so have had loads of hindu friends so i know quite a bit about their religion, also, just want to add that obviously it probably wnt be as harsh as that now as hindus are alot more modern and most do wateva the hell they please in terms of drinking fornication etc when its prohibited even in their religion, but its gud to see the rights compared to hindu n muslim women, even tho the hindus are probably not as strict with these rules and regulations any more as theyre living in the west.

    also aint u seen any bollywood films, any of the old ones? i yes when was younger watched em with my gran even tho i didnt understand the language but any ways they always have the woman dressed in white looking so miserable and not having a life, and often wud be scenes of her jumping in the fire.

    also wud like to add that in some parts of india in the most rural of communities this does happen, i know cuz my mum is from india and so she wud know.
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    Assalaualaikum/peace Nafeesa,

    The article is just pin pointing certain things about Hinduism (and Islam) with no elaborate discussion on it, also shown by no reference to Hindu scripture or Islamic scripture.

    It is nothing big, I was merely pointing something out because like I say, attackers of Islam attack Islam in such a way.

    Salam, Peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nafeesa View Post
    HINDU WOMEN'S RIGHTS COMPARED TO MUSLIM WOMEN'S RIGHTS

    IN RESPONSE TO A HINDU MAN THAT CRITICIZED THE WAY MUSLIM WOMEN ARE TREATED. JUDGE FOR YOURSELF!

    Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem:

    As`salamualaikum Warahmutullahi Wabarakatuhu...
    I hope you all are in the best of health & iman inshallah.
    The Brahmins make a big campaign that Islam restricts the freedom of women. Let us compare the positions of the Hindu woman and the Muslim woman. See the following facts for comparison and then try to bring these Brahmins to their senses.

    The Hindu Woman:
    ==============
    1. The Hindu Woman has no right to divorce her husband.
    2. She has no property or inheritance rights.
    3. Choice of partner is limited because she can only marry within her own caste; moreover her horoscope must match that of the intending bridegroom/family.
    4. The family of the girl has to offer an enormous dowry to the bridegroom/family.
    5. If her husband dies she should commit Sati (being cremated with her dead husband). Since today's law forbids Sati, society mainly punishes her in other "holy" ways (see below).
    6. She cannot remarry.
    7. The widow is considered to be a curse and must not be seen in public.She cannot wear jewelry or colorful clothes. (She should not even take part in her children's marriage!)

    The Muslim Woman:
    ===============
    1. The Muslim woman has the same right as the Muslim man in all matters including divorce.
    2. She enjoys property and inheritance rights. (Which other religion grants women these rights?). She can also conduct her own separate business.
    3. She can marry any Muslim of her choice. If her parents choose a partner for her, her consent must be taken.
    4. The dowry in Islam is a gift from a husband to his wife (not the other way around)
    5. A Muslim widow is encouraged to remarry, and her remarriage is the responsibility of the Muslim society.
    6. Mixed marriage is encouraged and is a means to prevent racism creeping in society.
    7. A Muslim mother is given the highest form of respect.
    What right do the Hindus have to criticize the Muslims? Have you ever heard of a Muslim burning his wife? In India women die daily of dowry deaths, Hindu women being burnt by the husband or in-laws. It is a fact that upper caste Hindus ill-treat their women. The Brahmins are trying to claim that Muslims do not give freedom to their women. I ask you again. "Do the Hindus respect their women?"
    You be the judge.
    Your Brother
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    http://www.muslim.net/islam
    Dear Nafeesa,
    I am really sorry to say you this, but i have to say that you don't know anything about Hindus nor Muslims. All your information about Hindus and Muslims are wrong.

    Hindu Woman : Muslim Woman
    =======================

    1)The Hindu Woman has no right to divorce her husband.

    For Hindus : Are you kidding or what? Do some research before making a post . They do have all rights to do so.

    For Muslim : Her husband can divorce her by saying triple "Talak" ie, no consideration for women ,but if a women wants to divorce her husband, the community will torcher her and corner her.


    2) She has no property or inheritance rights.

    For Hindus :In Hindu community the first preference of inheritance rights is for women.

    For Muslim : After her marriage, she has no rights. All consideration for men.

    3) Choice of partner .

    For Hindus : She can marry any human being of her choice.

    For Muslim : Not even allowed to see the face of her groom's face . She can only see his face during their first night.

    4) If her husband dies.

    For Hindus : She can re-marry & She will be given the highest form of respect.

    For Muslims : That is the end of her social life.




    Now Why everyone is criticizing the Muslims for treating their women so bad?

    I can write a story on this matter, but as my time is limited, i can only say to take a look at the life of Muslim women when Taliban were in control of Afghanistan. They were only allowed to wear prada ,they should cover their whole body except her eyes , other wise they will be humiliated and punished.


    Special Note
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    JEHAD (THE HOLY WAR) - Causing terror all over the world, taking innocent life's.
    (Actually some illiterate people misunderstood the meaning)



    Hey, you can ban be for saying my opinion, but if you have the courage to keep my opinion, then i can say that you are a real Muslim with the real spirit.



    After all i am not a Hindu nor Muslim.

    I AM A CHRISTIAN


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    Thumbs down sorry saviour - nor are you so accurate

    ok saviour, i am the following:
    1. indian
    2. from hindu background
    3. christian schooling
    4. muslim

    ...incase you say anything.

    the original post was highlighting hindu tradition, not indian law.
    in indian law all what you have said is guaranteed, but reality is a bit different.

    similarly in islam, rights of women are guaranteed but realities are different sometimes.

    everyone is criticising because "everyone" is the judeochristian world, who want to show that islam is somehow evil, so they have an excuse to go and "liberate" the muslim ppl and give them "freedom", which is far from the truth.

    it would be better if ppl would look at the desperate situation of women and their role in societies in the west, rather than pointing at the muslims.

    "remove the plank from your own eye before telling your brother to remove the dust in his."


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