ANSWERED: question about this hadith

[Karim_sunni]

sahih bukhari , Volume 7, Book 62, Number 63:

Narrated Sahl bin Sad:

While we were sitting in the company of the Prophet a woman came to him and presented herself (for marriage) to him. The Prophet looked at her, lowering his eyes and raising them, but did not give a reply. One of his companions said, "Marry her to me O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet asked (him), "Have you got anything?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Not even an iron ring?" He Sad, "Not even an iron ring, but I will tear my garment into two halves and give her one half and keep the other half." The Prophet; said, "No. Do you know some of the Quran (by heart)?" He said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an (as her Mahr)." 'And for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature). (65.4) And the 'Iddat for the girl before puberty is three months (in the above Verse).

does the original arabic version of this hadith really uses the word 'puberty'.

because as far as i know marriage is possible before puberty, but nikkah only at the onset of puberty (since the prophet saw waited with Nikkah till aicha reached the age of 9 ) , and i thought 'iddat' applies only tho those couples whi have performed nikkah with their marriage.

so can someone please tell me what the arabic version of this hadith says.

[Kareem]

nikkah = marriage

correct me if im wrong

[Muawiyah]

The Sahl bin Sa'd ahadith ends at "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an", what is mentioned next is not a hadeeth but part of the title of the next chapter in sahih al-bukhari:

باب إنكاح الرجل ولده الصغار لقوله تعالى { واللائي لم يحضن } فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ

something like:
"Chapter on (the permissibility of) a man marrying off his underage daughter (which would be) in accordance with the saying of Allah "And for those who do not menstruate" so the `iddah was set to three months prior to buloogh."

[Karim_sunni]

mash'allah akhi,

Allah swt must have blessed me, to receive this answer, this answer saves my whole article in defending our prophet (saw).

djazakallah akhi

[amtullah786]

because as far as i know marriage is possible before puberty, but nikkah only at the onset of puberty (since the prophet saw waited with Nikkah till aicha reached the age of 9 )

What is the difference between marriage and nikkah?
Do u mean betrothing and nikkah(marriage)?

[Karim_sunni]

Do u mean betrothing and nikkah(marriage)?

yes exactly, nikkah is consumation of marriage.

[Kareem]

nah bro, nikkah is the marriage contract

[Omar HH]

haha 2 Kareems on one thread.

Hey KarimSunni - I know your doing all these articles ma Sha Allah - so actually I have some advice for you:

Maybe you should consider studying some Islam full time - being a student of knowledge. That would give you an excellent source of backup knowledge in your work.

Anyways just an idea.

peace out,

ma` asalama,
Omar.

[Karim_sunni]

aleikom salaam Umar,

your right, i have a lot of books home to read, long wayyyyyyy to go ,and recently i discoverd the maliki site 'lamppostproductions'


but as far as for Nikkah, the prophet (saw)

Imam Muslim reports on the authority of ‘Aisha – may Allah be pleased with her – that she said,

“The Messenger of Allah – may Allah bless and grant him peace – married me at six years of age. And he consummated (the marriage) with me when I was nine years of age.”

so i thougt the consummation of marriage is Nikkah? just like the prophet (saw) did here, when aicha reached puberty he consumated marriage with her.

[Omar HH]

Nikah is the Arabic word for marriage.

Anyways cool Sidi you should get a good grounding in hadith and tafsir those seem like your fields lol