Al-Maghrib salafi? Zaytuna Sufi?

[Dawud AbuSulayman]

All of this Kalam against salafiyyah and the salafiyoon and I STILL havent seen why people think that Salafiyyah is "the biggest fitnah ever in Islam"

Subhannallah, the Shia kurse The sahaba, worship 12 imams, slander the wife of the prophet and say that Gibreel made a mistake by going to the prophet Muhammad instead of Ali and you say that Salafiyyah is the worst fitnah?

The nation of Islam in America say that Allah is a man and that Elijah poole from chicago is the prophet of Allah and you say Salafiyyah is the biggest fitnah?

Warith Ad deen Muhammad in America says that he is the Mahdi and says that he is Isa reincarnated and interprets the Ayat where Allah says he sends a messenger to every nation. he says he is the messenger to this nation, and you say Salafiyyah is the biggest fitnah?

There are people in this ummah who worship graves and make duaa to the awliyah and beleive that they have the ability to become "one" wit Allah, who obey theor "sheikhs" to the point that they will eat their feces and let them have sex with their wives and you say SALAFIYYAH IS THE BIGGEST FITNAH???

what exactly is the fitnah of the salafis? So far, I havent seen anything convincing. Even if Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab was a british spy and a Shaitan and a Dajjal, what does that have to do with Salafiyyah? Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab is not the Imam of Salafiyyah, The lone Sheikh who salafis follow at all costs, He is considered a Mujadid of the sunnah, Yes, but even if he were a british spy (which I beleive is just a story), produce something from his books for me that opposes Islam (not what people say about him) but something from his actual books, with pages, reference #'s (preferrably the DarrusSallam editions , because I have those available to me to reference.

forgive me if my posts seem irritated, but I am irritated, I have been reading accusations for almost a week of coming here and NO PROOF , yet. except what people say about salafiyyah and it's scholars. In order to establish proof, you need a statement from him , in his books, to refute him in a fair manner otherwise , whatever you say is heresay, and it is rejected according to the principles of Ahlul Hadeeth.

JazakAllahu khayr

[Sunniya]

Allah guide all of us. I came to this forums to learn to come to the traditional knowledge to practice tasawwuf and remembrance of Allah. If I see that people are whole heartedly bashing insulting those who call themselves salafyun or ahlus salaf, I am going to naturally cringe because I am making a transition. I was a muslim before and I am a muslim now. Before i didnt follow a 'particular' madhab and I use to say I was salafi. Now, certain things and turns in my life has made me look into spirituality a lot more. Plus on my part open mindedness in general. I use to read Reliance of the Traveler before, as I was mostly shafi'i even before.
For those that know me in real life, I am afraid they might not accept me in the sunnah group because i was always a 'salafi' for them, so now even if i am planning to become and join the traditionalist group and considering the responses on here, I might be viewed with intense suspicion.
Where I come from, everyone was a 'sunni' muslim. Everyone was either deobandi hanafi or one who followed traditional scholars and oftentime I was isolated and ignored by the women. I dont know if i tell them I am thinking about joining them, will they continue to belittle me, ignore me. Some of the sisters were very selective in saying salam to some people and not others and if I am even telling you this, they would label me as doing what?
backbiting.
Some of this harsh attitude turns me off by all those who possess it.
With the hardcore salafi ignorant masses, the beginning students etc, I never went to their forums, because it was too much. However, I see some of the same bashing on here. I dont know what is to become of our ummah. If those who claim to be of the saved sect do not follow the highest of morals and character then I dont know if they can make such a claim.
i had always been brought up thinking that sufi people are the most humble people, the most kind people, and indeed many of the mashaikh are but their students do not exemplify such behavior. If all the dhikr in the world does not make you smile at your sister when you greet her or say salam when you see her even if she is not following your shaikh, then I think you have to revamp your intention. Nowadays, everyone is doing this because this is the "in" thing it is the cool thing. It is easy to get fired up but in real life will you withhold the test, will you have sabr of Ayyub AS or sabr in general to live up to it.
wallahu alim.
Please please throw the bigotry away.

[Karim_sunni]

also one question, why is saudi arabia called after wahab's friend ibn saud ?

IBN saud ---------------------> Saudi Arabia ?

the only country in the world, named after a family/tribe name, thats really sad .

sounds like the spy story is true, since the britisch were involved in building saudi arabia and supplied Ibn saud and the wahabis of weapons, to collapse against the sunnis

[Harun_Abdul_Hakeem]

Allah guide all of us. I came to this forums to learn to come to the traditional knowledge to practice tasawwuf and remembrance of Allah. If I see that people are whole heartedly bashing insulting those who call themselves salafyun or ahlus salaf, I am going to naturally cringe because I am making a transition. I was a muslim before and I am a muslim now. Before i didnt follow a 'particular' madhab and I use to say I was salafi. Now, certain things and turns in my life has made me look into spirituality a lot more. Plus on my part open mindedness in general. I use to read Reliance of the Traveler before, as I was mostly shafi'i even before.
For those that know me in real life, I am afraid they might not accept me in the sunnah group because i was always a 'salafi' for them, so now even if i am planning to become and join the traditionalist group and considering the responses on here, I might be viewed with intense suspicion.
Where I come from, everyone was a 'sunni' muslim. Everyone was either deobandi hanafi or one who followed traditional scholars and oftentime I was isolated and ignored by the women. I dont know if i tell them I am thinking about joining them, will they continue to belittle me, ignore me. Some of the sisters were very selective in saying salam to some people and not others and if I am even telling you this, they would label me as doing what?
backbiting.
Some of this harsh attitude turns me off by all those who possess it.
With the hardcore salafi ignorant masses, the beginning students etc, I never went to their forums, because it was too much. However, I see some of the same bashing on here. I dont know what is to become of our ummah. If those who claim to be of the saved sect do not follow the highest of morals and character then I dont know if they can make such a claim.
i had always been brought up thinking that sufi people are the most humble people, the most kind people, and indeed many of the mashaikh are but their students do not exemplify such behavior. If all the dhikr in the world does not make you smile at your sister when you greet her or say salam when you see her even if she is not following your shaikh, then I think you have to revamp your intention. Nowadays, everyone is doing this because this is the "in" thing it is the cool thing. It is easy to get fired up but in real life will you withhold the test, will you have sabr of Ayyub AS or sabr in general to live up to it.
wallahu alim.
Please please throw the bigotry away.

Trust Me I Know How U Feel Sister,Some Of Us Have Been On The Same Path Of Recklessness As I Like To Call It,But Then Allah Guided Us To The Truth In A Sense,To SOme People Will Still Remain As We Were Before,But Through This I Relized That They Are Maybe Just Narrow Minded,Because We Were All Like It Or Not Something Else Before We Came 2 Islam,I Was a Non-Muslim Sikh Not Doing Anything Good But Loads Of Currpotion & If Ur Born Muslim Then Before U Fully Came 2 Islam Or Understood It,U Were A Baby who didnt know nothing.So in the end we were all something and we were all somewere but islam brought us somewere and al humdulilah i hope it will keep us together,evan though some people say they were like this and they will remain like this,insha allah we should take that as encouragement to prove them wrong thats my mental focus when i hear a comment or remark like that.well i hoped this post helped u insha allah.Forgive me for any wrong remarks or comments i might have made on my part,it was soley form me and the shaytaan and anything good that came out of this was from Allah.