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To: Talib Ilm
Assalam U Aalaikum
Dear Brother where do you study?
Wassalam
Shaykh

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim
He studies at Madrasah In'aamiyyah.
Ma salam

Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,
Um Eesaa & All:
My name is 'Irfan, and my wife and I are thinking of moving to Camperdown to study at Madrasah 'Inaamiyah. I had a few questions in general, and specifically for Um Eesaa, as she is married to a student there and my questions are mostly "family-specific" and I am sure it will be beneficial for my wife to talk to another student's wife. Insha'Allah I would appreciate all responses, and hopefully it will benefit my family, and other families thinking of going to study there bi idhnillah.
1) My wife is also interested in studying Deen if we relocate. Are there opportunities near Madrasah 'Inaamiyah for women to study in some full-time program as well?
2) We have a 17month old daughter, and by the time we go she will probably be close to 2 1/2 years old, insha'Allah. Are there Islamic programs for children around the area that would teach a child that young (or even older) during the day while parents are in school? Related to this, are there any hifdh programs for young children in the area?
3) I see it costs about $550-$600/month for families to rent and live in Camperdown - So would it be safe to say that one will need upwards of $40,000USD to finish the 6-year program there if one is married and has a child/children? Would this cost include school for the child, family needs (diapers for babies, toiletries, etc.) or is that just rent, food, and utilities?
4) When does school start and stop during the year? (What months)?
Thanks - I hope you all will not mind if I have some follow-up questions for you once you respond.
Barak Allahu Feekum.
Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,
Abu Maryam

brother Abu Maryami will answer the questions by tonight
one point though... the school year starts after Eedul Adha and ends before...so that a little different here
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1. Unfortunately they do not have a seperate women's alima course here, which i wa rather hoping for when i came. but, Mufti Ebrahim sahib had made arrangements for me that i study whatever my husband studies from home, and i get to givg ethe same exams they do, so next weeki will be giving exams as well, only i will be giving them from home.
They do have Madaaris for girls/women in peitermaritzburg that is about 20 mins drive from camperdown.
2.For a child that young i don't think they have any Islamic program, but i will ask as i had heard from a sister here that they have a kind of playschool here, where they incorporate islamic believes.
3.i will check this out with my husband, he is good with the money stuff. We did have to buy our own stuff like fridge stove washing machine etc. so the ammount you quoted would take in effect once you are settled.
4.school ends this year the 25th december and will start again in mid january. so we can say that school starts from eedul adha and ends a few weeks before.
will find more info for help. you can also mail @ askimam@yahoogroups.com for more info.
thats a good idea as well, but for hard core facts it would be best to get info from a person actually studying and living there because they are going through the whole process and know what is needed. for myself and my husband, there were certainly some things that we didnt know about here.I think the best think for you is contact Inamiyah directly, via phone or email. And get your information through them. Hope this helps
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Would that I had the wings of Gabriel to bear me aloft
To the Lord of the Throne~ Heart Song, Talib al Habib

Ahqer & Um Eesaa,
Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,
Thank you both for your replies. Barak Allahu Feekum.
I hope you do not mind a few follow up questions.
1) Um Eesaa - You mentioned there is no 'Islamic program' for people that young, but there must be muslim children there in the area - What are they all doing? Also, do you have a son named Eesaa? If so, may I ask his age and what his daily schedule is? We just want a good idea of what kids can do if we come, insha'Allah.
2) Also, you mentioned that you are studying the same books from home - Are you studying with a teacher? If so, that is wonderful - Can we pay an 'alima to teach our wives (a friend and I are planning to come, insha'Allah)? If not, isn't that a disadvantage studying everything on your own while the brothers get to study with teachers? Do you know what it would cost to a pay an 'alima to teach 2-4 hours a day?
I have spoken to Mufti Desai extensively while he was here during Ramadhan, in Virginia. I did not specifically ask about accomodations for women or children, however, and these are the biggest concerns now. Is there muslim babysitting available, are their women scholars who can teach, etc.
Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,
Prem

The ammount you quoted, that would mean that you have 3500 rands per month. Usually rent for a 2 bedroom flat is about 2000 rands. that would leave you with 1500 for everything else. i am pretty sure that will not be enough, espescially since you have a Masha Allah growing daughter.
We asked a married Molana who is doing Ifta here. According to him (he doesnt have kids) a person should have 5500-6000 rands per month. For my husband and I 3500 rands is enough if living with bare necessities (No car, so gas not included).
However, there are some scholorship programs that can help as well. Even madressah sometimes can also accomodate, but i wouldn't count the madressah until you are actually here and they see your situation.
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all the kids mostly go study in maritzburg, they have a venture that goes everyday to drop and pick up the kids. I myself though teach three kids at home (i dont have any kids actually). I am sure that anyone (myself included of course) wouldnt mind babysitting.
Currently what married students do is that they stay in maritzburg (20 mins)/durban(50 mins) and commute. that way they can send their kids and their wives can study as well.
i myself am not studying with a teacher, rather i do read myself, but my husband comes home and explains everything to me, and if i have questions then he asks the teachers for me. But i have studied the books upto third year+ previously with teachers so its more like a revision.i am gonna try to get a recorder to record their lessons as well.
i am not sure what it would cost to teach an alima, actually i dont even think we have one in town. Will find out though.
the madressah has a project of building a living quarters adjecent to the madressah which willcomplete maybe end of next year.
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Would that I had the wings of Gabriel to bear me aloft
To the Lord of the Throne~ Heart Song, Talib al Habib
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