Madrasah In'aamiya Information Thread (Camperdown, South Africa)

[Al-Faruqi]

The Madrasah got a new website, please check out:

www.al-inaam.com

[binte sulaiman]

Assalamu Alaykum

Maulana, can you check this thread: Where can a non-muslim study islam
Is madrassa in'aamiyyah open to what he's asking for?? It would be a good way for the brother to learn more and at the same time be able to experience a deeni environment.

[abuhajira]

Unfortunately madrasa does not have such retreat programs.

[Al-Faruqi]

Does Madrasah have specific requirements concerning which Qur'ân printing style to use? (i.e. is it restricted to SA/Pak print or could one also use e.g. Middle-Eastern print or Turkish print?)

[hope1]

Does Madrasah have specific requirements concerning which Qur'ân printing style to use? (i.e. is it restricted to SA/Pak print or could one also use e.g. Middle-Eastern print or Turkish print?)

Asslamau laiakum,

I highly doubt print style matters. Brother, I think In'amiyyah is a good choice because they do a lot of research it seems. Also they are very pro-active and want to find practical solution.

[abdul_rehman]

Chapter 3

Prospective Student

1. Married Students

If you are a married student who wishes to come here and study at Madrasah, my sincere advice is to think beforehand. There are many aspects to look before you make your decision. It is even harsher for the newly weds. When I came here I was a newly wed and for me to leave my wife home alone, for most part of the day was pretty hard. There are many reasons why it is so hard. Foreign students like us, have our own way of living which is a bit different then what this environment offers.

Sometime seclusion of the house gets to you. If you don’t have a car then it is even harder since you have to request someone to take you to the neighboring city for a mere couple of hours of outing.

Though the food and groceries are there, but under a limited budget you can only expand your varieties so much. I remember in Canada a stroll after supper was a delicacy which I have long forgotten since it is not advisable to roam outside after sunset. There are also other factors which make sure that if you come here with a family, then the mujahada(struggle) will not be only on your part but also your wife.
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Limitation to the Madrasah Boundary

All students are restricted to the Madrasah Premise. They cannot go out except with a permission slip from the office. This is for student’s safety, and not the urge of the official to subjugate the students to show authority.

Assalam Walaikum

Jazak Allah Khair for the info you gave.

Brother, you may be an ideal person to ask the following things, as you were newly wed from Canada when you went to study.

I’m 23 years old and my wife 24. We both have bachelor’s degree from USA. Now by the mercy of Allah, Allah taala put in our hearts to change our life style and learn about Deen. We both want to go and do aalim/aalima course (I have heard that one of the best place is South Africa). I just started researching on this.

Obviously I will not be able to work there if I’m studying there full time. Thus, we will not have any financial support.
Can you please tell me if they have any benefit for married couple like me? If I study in Madrasah In'aamiya and my wife do the same course close by (please tell me the closest school for her, I have listed some school of South Africa below which I found by searching), do we have to live in the marasah or can we get a small place between both the madrasah? Also, how far is both men and women madrasah from each other? How much you think we will need to contribute every month for living there? (not talking about comfort, just necessity is fine too). When do the semester start and as we both know English and urdu(we may not need to take these classes) how many years program will we be enrolling for? How much time do you think husband and wife will be able to spend in a school day? And how much is the home work for every night and the weekend?

I’m sorry I have so many questions, but as you may understand that I’m absolutely beginner and these basic questions are very important for me. Please reply with these answers and any other information you think is important for us to know (as you were in the same boat in which I’m today). Jazak Allah.
Few Madarasah for Girls I found online by searching. Please tell me which one are the closest and how close from my madarash and which one you recommend:
Madrasah Islaahul Banaat (WOMEN) Landsdowne
Madrasah Banaatul Islaam (WOMEN) Korsten, Port Elizabeth
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Stanger
Madrasah Swaalihaat (WOMEN) Asherville
Madrasah Talimun Niswan ((WOMEN) PMBurg
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Madrasah Muneeratul Islam lil Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Girls Madrasah Zakariyyah (WOMEN)

[ImaanSeeker]

Assalam Walaikum

Jazak Allah Khair for the info you gave.

Brother, you may be an ideal person to ask the following things, as you were newly wed from Canada when you went to study.

I’m 23 years old and my wife 24. We both have bachelor’s degree from USA. Now by the mercy of Allah, Allah taala put in our hearts to change our life style and learn about Deen. We both want to go and do aalim/aalima course (I have heard that one of the best place is South Africa). I just started researching on this.

Obviously I will not be able to work there if I’m studying there full time. Thus, we will not have any financial support.
Can you please tell me if they have any benefit for married couple like me? If I study in Madrasah In'aamiya and my wife do the same course close by (please tell me the closest school for her, I have listed some school of South Africa below which I found by searching), do we have to live in the marasah or can we get a small place between both the madrasah? Also, how far is both men and women madrasah from each other? How much you think we will need to contribute every month for living there? (not talking about comfort, just necessity is fine too). When do the semester start and as we both know English and urdu(we may not need to take these classes) how many years program will we be enrolling for? How much time do you think husband and wife will be able to spend in a school day? And how much is the home work for every night and the weekend?

I’m sorry I have so many questions, but as you may understand that I’m absolutely beginner and these basic questions are very important for me. Please reply with these answers and any other information you think is important for us to know (as you were in the same boat in which I’m today). Jazak Allah.
Few Madarasah for Girls I found online by searching. Please tell me which one are the closest and how close from my madarash and which one you recommend:
Madrasah Islaahul Banaat (WOMEN) Landsdowne
Madrasah Banaatul Islaam (WOMEN) Korsten, Port Elizabeth
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Stanger
Madrasah Swaalihaat (WOMEN) Asherville
Madrasah Talimun Niswan ((WOMEN) PMBurg
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Madrasah Muneeratul Islam lil Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Girls Madrasah Zakariyyah (WOMEN)

Assalaamu Alaykum,

I am in a somewhat similar situation as the brother above. I would appreciate the answers to his questions as well.

Also, if the above brother is willing, is it possible to give bro abdul_rehman my email address, so I can ask him about his findings about this issue.

JazakAllah Khayr to the mods for helping faciliate this.

Wassalaam

[abuhajira]

Assalam Walaikum

Jazak Allah Khair for the info you gave.

Brother, you may be an ideal person to ask the following things, as you were newly wed from Canada when you went to study.

I am extremely sorry for being so late. InshAllah I will try to answer to the best of my ability.

Obviously I will not be able to work there if I’m studying there full time. Thus, we will not have any financial support.
Can you please tell me if they have any benefit for married couple like me?

The benefit for a married student may perhaps be half that to a bachelor. the reason is simple. The Madrasah does not have any accommodation facilities for the married students. Hence neither room nor boarding (food) expenses be covered by this. And I can tell you from my experience that this is an enormous expense for someone who is not working.

A partial solution if I may offer is that before you depart for US or your country, arrange a sponsor there who will manage these expenses for you. You may start a fund raising or talk to local masajid to look some sponsor for you. Basically you will need about $4000 US per year to barely secure yourself in a self sustained environment. If you can manage something like that, then you are set to go.

The benefit from the madrasah can be pretty minimal for such students. basically they wave off the tuition fee for you, and if you choose to stay in madrasah at lunch time, they will arrange the luch for you as well. But this is of not much benefit for your wife who may be in another madrasah or at home.

If I study in Madrasah In'aamiya and my wife do the same course close by (please tell me the closest school for her, I have listed some school of South Africa below which I found by searching), do we have to live in the marasah or can we get a small place between both the madrasah?

Unfortunately Madrasah In'aamiyah is not close to any Female Madrasah. the closest is the one in Pietermeritzburg. Although it may be a good idea to have your wife study at madrasah as well, but personally I have not been much impressed by the curriculum of women madaris here. Maybe I am not much aquainted with the current setup, but 4 years back when I searched a place for my own wife I was half impressed to learn that they will only do untill Mishkaat year. Moreover I have been told that they have even reduced that level somewhat. I am not sure as for now.

I had resorted at that time to teach my wife on my own. Basically whatever I would study throught the day I would teach it in the evening. This becomes really hard beyond 3rd year, and I too lost the energy and push for it. So to get your wife to study at a madrasah while you study is a big problem if you choose Madrasah Inaamiyah.

Also, how far is both men and women madrasah from each other? How much you think we will need to contribute every month for living there? (not talking about comfort, just necessity is fine too).

The closest women madrasah is about 22-25 km from camperdown. You can either choose to stay in camperdown and drive to PMB or vice versa. Since you traveling anyway, I would recommend opting to stay in PMB and then travel to camperdown. You may find cheaper accomodation there as well. I will try to get some average figures for that. But base necessity will be same as I mentioned above.

When do the semester start and as we both know English and urdu(we may not need to take these classes) how many years program will we be enrolling for?

You will still enroll for the 6 year program. I cannot say for sure about your wife. THe normal course for them is 5 years if I am not mistaken. Urdu will be help but not as great as it would have been in other madaris. If you prefer urdu medium or somewhere you can utilize urdu, I would suggest you check the thread about Zakariya Madrasah. they also have a woman madrasah closeby and easier to find accommodations there as well.

How much time do you think husband and wife will be able to spend in a school day? And how much is the home work for every night and the weekend?

That I must say is very relative. The school hours at our madrasah is from 7:30PM to 4:30PM and a normal 2-3 hour for evening studies will suffice. But it all depends on your study methods and how you like to study. Married students are not bound by Takrar and Mutala schedule of madrasah. So they do it in their own times at home.

Few Madarasah for Girls I found online by searching. Please tell me which one are the closest and how close from my madarash and which one you recommend:
Madrasah Islaahul Banaat (WOMEN) Landsdowne
Madrasah Banaatul Islaam (WOMEN) Korsten, Port Elizabeth
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Stanger
Madrasah Swaalihaat (WOMEN) Asherville
Madrasah Talimun Niswan ((WOMEN) PMBurg
Madrasatul Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Madrasah Muneeratul Islam lil Banaat (WOMEN) Azaadville
Girls Madrasah Zakariyyah (WOMEN)

I would say the PMBurg. but I need to confirm thats the one. It is run by Maulana Akoonji Saheb, if I am not mistaken. InshAllah I will call my friend tomorrow to get the info.

[SASLAMS]

Zakariyah & Azadvile would be the best option if you wanted male & female madrasahs withing walking distance from each other. I dont want to speak too much about the security in both those areas-but they both in Johannesburg & muslims are targeted especialy in indian areas. being foreigners, you guys should seek advice & becoming street wise SA style too. My friend from had his car stolen not long after moving over to Zakariyah but it was mostly due to him not actualy being aware of JHB.

insha Allah you would be fine just mingle with your local muslim near you & let then help you. dont completely shun the non muslims either, that is one mistake many SA muslims do.

[waqas naseer]

nice thread