Is William Chittick Muslim? are his books reliable?
Is William Chittick Muslim? are his books reliable?
no brother [clip] ,without any traditional o spiritual qualification to speak about shaykh Ibn Arabi. he is even follower of "perennialist"school and try to picture Shaykh al Akbar as a believer in "trascendent unity of all religion's". He's book's are very deep and give many information's but you can respect him as an scholar but be carefull about some exposition's.It's not all good ,it's not all bad.take careOriginally Posted by Salleyye
[Mod Edit:- Please refrain from takfeer without proof. This is your first warning.]
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asalaamualaykum, perennialist schools of thought are batil and not accepted by majority of the ummah , all religions are not one and the same as perrenialists believe, Islam does not believe in the trinity where as perrenialists do , its about time the ummah woke up to the fact that sufism is being hijacked by jesuit styled perrenialism , tasawuff is the sceince of the self and its model is rasullulah [ s.a.w ] and all the awliyah , the kufar will never stop from trying to destroy islam, ALLAH tells us in the quraan about what the kaffirs intend to do, they will never fully accept us unless we are like them , here is a wonderfull site where you can get a great teaching about tasawuff [ sufism ] and there is some wonderfull translations of ibn al arabi's works , wa salaam.
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thank you brother celt islam. in any case mr.wiliam chittick is not a muslim ,and this is a known fact.to interpret ibn Arabi you must have traditional qualification's.
Majdoba - we definetly need you on Maliki Fiqh Group. You have too much knowledge to share!! Ma Sha Allah. We have Imam Suhaib Webb and Shaykh `Abdus Sammad Clarke, Aftab Malik, And Khalid Williams.
Salam aleikum ,dear sister ! we must respect this man even he is a non muslim. he is a very deep thinker and an intellectual erudite about sufism and Shaykh Ibn Arabi. I hear that he is a non muslim from people who follow's his work's and love him very much.they are "perennialist "muslim's ad give me his work's to read. they have some contact's in the u.s.a who have direct knowledge of this scholar. i asked them if he was muslim and they say the he was not ,but that his spiritual intuition was without doubt very rare and deep.this evening i phone this friend's and ask about his religion again and they reply he is a traditional perennialist very gifted ,but he is not muslim in the sense we intend to give to this term a meaning. they say this his case is the same as of the late Henry Corbine ,another scholar of the same group of people who gathered around seyyed hussein nasr in the seventy's in persia ,at the time of the sha.Originally Posted by Majdoba
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????? what is a perrennialist muslim? , is not islam enough or what?
so now we have a new sect? hummm
perrenialism by definition is not islam.
Ive taken a few courses with Professor Chittick including Islamic Philosophy and Introduction to Islam.
On the whole he's very positive about Islam. He also has a basic understanding of fiqh, the fuqaha, the sufis e.t.c.. What I mean is you will not find him condemning or disagreeing openly with aspects which people find odd in Islam such as Niqab or beards or other practices. He is quite aware as to why we believe such and the proofs.
In that sense he is very good, very polite, and a great Professor.
However, he is not someone you take your *din* from - as we all know - because he does have some perennialist beliefs.
May My Soul be sacrificed for your soul, my beloved, my master Muhammad - peace and blessing upon you- !
روحي لروحك الفداء يا حبيبي يا سيدي محمد
We should remember that we do not know if Mr. Chittick is Muslim or not. Either way, he has done a great service to Islam and Muslims. Hamzah Yusuf has used his and Sachiko Murata's "The Vision of Islam" in classes, and produced a commentary on it. If qualified scholars find merit in his work, shouldn't we? Even if we have certain theological differences.
By the way, I have never heard a Muslim who adheres to the Perennial Philosophy call him or her self a "perennialist Muslim," -Celt Islam. Yet there are strands of philosophy and gnosis that have developed in Islam that are true to the original teachings of the Quran and Sunnah: Akbari, Ishraqi, etc.
It is common for people to have these reactions when they do not understand the doctrines being presented.
We should know if he is muslim or not simply in order to apply the laws of Allah in this life. In the life of this world, Allah has obliged us to apply certain Ahkam that are particular to Muslims such as: eating their meat, marrying them, burying them in the Muslim graveyards, and giving them their other obligatory rights as Muslims.
Maybe im misunderstanding the context of this discussion, but one could also say: "We dont know if Hugo Chavez is Muslim or not."
The Fuqaha' mention that the general ruling on a person follows that of his or here dar (abode) unless there are other indicators to show otherwise. So, if you see a clean shaven man in the Muslim world, you assume him to be a muslim because he is in the land of the Muslims. That is unless he is displaying the outward signs of Kufr such as wearing a cross etc. The same applies for the west. Any man in the street is assumed to be a Kafir merely because they are in the west-the lands of the Kuffar. That is unless he is displaying the outward signs of Islam such as the salams, the beard and kufi etc.
It is important to know who is and isnt Muslim in order to obey Allah in this life. The real reality in the hereafter of the unknown person in the west is not our concern here, but the laws of distinction must be applied to properly worship and obey Allah.
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