celebrating URS
my dear brothers and sisters in Islam
Assalam-o-alaikum
I want to know the rulings of celebrating URS in Islam. is it permissible to attend the URS of saints , or these types of acts can be termed as bid'ah?
If this question has already been raised or discussed, please provide me with the link.
I do believe that none of blessed saHaaba, taabaaeen, taba' taabaaiin celebrated the URS of saints , but I want to increase my knowledge in this issue.
ma'ass.salaamah
Saa'd
Actually I have no clue to be honest and I was wondering the same thing. It's like Mawlid right but for Walis and Sahaba and stuff?
*takes aim with Bidah Blaster*
Yes brother, it looks like celebrating birthdays of Great Saints (Awliya).Originally Posted by Omar HH
I have come accross with the point of view from my bareilwi brothers but still searching for some more details.
Seriously, why the heck would you do such things???? Celebrate birthdays of "saints"?????
Sigh, I don't even like calling people "saints."
Shrines, saints, birthdays, etc -- what is all this stuff but Jahiliyya?
This stuff makes me sad / upset.
Assalamu Alaikum,
I'm still confused about urs but as I lack knowledge about this practice I won't say celebrating urs is biddah.
In the Hereafter a terrible punishment awaits you but also forgiveness from Allah swt and His good pleasure. The life of this world is nothing but the enjoyment of delusion. (Surah al-Hadid: 20)
Why do it unless you do it as an act of worship?
If you do it as an act of worship, was it part of the Sunnah?
If it was not part of the Sunnah and it is an act of worship, then it is Bidah.
Did the Prophet (s) celebrate the birthday of Prophet Jesus (as). And who is superior in rank? Prophet Jesus (as) or the so-called Sufi "saints."
I remember once asking a Catholic about Sainthood and he said that Catholic's believe in many Saints as their protectors and even pray to them like asking for help, etc. You can imagine my surprise and disbelief when I noticed the uncanny resemblence in this statement with what some of our own brethren do in the name of tawassul.
“And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allaah, so call on Him...” [al-A’raaf 7:180].
“You ALONE do we worship, and Your aid ALONE we seek.” (Quran, Surat Al-Fa’tiha)
Allah Almighty says clearly in the Quran: "And invoke not, besides Allaah, [anyone since that] will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers). And if Allah should afflict you with harm, then there is none to remove it but He; and if He intends good to you there is none to repel His grace." [Quran 10:106-107]
Say [O Muhammad]: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah wills" (Quran, 7:188)
"And your Lord says: 'Call on Me, I will answer your (prayer).' (40: 60)
Allah Almighty says it so clearly in the Quran: "Verily those whom you call upon besides Allah are servants like you. Therefore, call upon them, and let them listen to your prayers, if you are (indeed) truthful!" (7: 194)
"If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call; and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you....But you cannot make those hear who are in graves…" (Quran, Chapter 35)
Allah Almighty continues, “Call upon those whom you imagine beside Allah! They have not an atom’s weight of power either in the heavens or in the earth, nor have they any share in either, nor does He need any of them as a helper.” (Quran, 34:22)
Allah Almighty says again in the Quran: "Yet have they taken, besides Him, gods that can create NOTHING but are THEMSELVES CREATED; that have NO control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control Death nor Life nor Resurrection." (25: 03)
The question has a couple of aspects.
Well in my research I have come across few people who do so for their love for that personality. The biggest URS you may see is that of either Rasul Allah, comonly known as Milaad ; or that of "Piraan e Peer" Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani. The daleel of love does not hold true, because love is only in practicing upon what the deceased person suggested. And if you go to the URS they have in Pakistan and India and then read the books of these shuyukh...its a complete opposite. So love is just a name..
But regarding the other half of the people who try to prove it through Nusus etc.. Esaal thawab is the only link they can use. Mufti Ebrahim says regarding similar celebration upon deceased... the 7th 10th 40th etc...
He says,
Even in Milaad appointing a specific time would definitely render it a Bida'Upon the death of a person, it is a common practice to make Fateha. Contextually, Fateha is the recitation of a few Aayaats of the Qur'aan followed by a Du'aa for the deceased.
There are innumerable number of Ahaadith expounding the virtues of reciting the Qur'aan and making Du'aa. There are also many Ahaadith on Isaal-e-Sawaab (sending reward to the deceased). Surely, the deceased eagerly await for rewards from his beloved wife, parents and friends by them making Du'aa for his forgiveness, giving charity, etc. on his behalf.
However, in order for the deceased to benefit from the gifts of his beloved, they must be channelled to him in the correct way, the way of our beloved Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). During the time of the Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), many deaths occurred. It was his noble habit to comfort the bereaved families and widows. Many Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhu) enquired from the Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) about Isaal-e-Sawaab (sending Sawaab to their deceased). It is not proven on any one occasion that the Prophet himself practised or ordered the customary practise of Fateha (7 days, 40 days, and 100 days). Had the customary practise of Fateha (7 days, 40 days, and 100 days) been of any significance, he surely would have at least practised it or ordered its practise at least once in his lifetime.
To emphasise and carry out a particular practise not proven in Shari'ah, for example, Fateha leads to distortion of Deen. Many people may regard the practise as necessary and an integral part of Deen as is the case among many unwary people today. Any practise which leads to a possible distortion of Deen is prohibited and a major sin. Obviously, such a practise leading to sin invokes the anger of Allah. How can such a practise benefit the deceased?
The only way to benefit the deceased is to send Sawaab to him by carrying out acts of virtue, for example, reciting Qur'aan, making Du'aa for him, giving charity, etc. as advised by our beloved Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). May Allah Ta'ala bless all our Marhooms and grant them Jannatul Firdaws.
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