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    Q) Is it true, that in Salah, according to the Hanafi school of thought, the follower does not recite any Qur'an, including the Fatiha, behind the Imam, even in quiet prayers such as Zuhr and Asr, in any of the Rakahs?

    A) Yes, it is true.

    According to the Hanafi Madhab, one should not recite anything behind the Imaam in any Rakaat during the Qiyaam (standing posture). This applies to all Salaats including Dhuhr and Asr.

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

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    what do the other madhab's say regarding this issue


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    From the Risala of ibn Abi Zayd

    11.1k Reciting with the Imam

    People praying behind an imam should recite to themselves when he recites to himself

    [It is related that this means that the judgement of the one following the Imam is that it is recommended for him to recite with the Imam in what the Imam says silently. That is since lack of recitation is a means to thinking and whispering.]

    11.1l. When the Imam recites aloud


    but should not recite with him when he recites outloud.

    [It is disliked to recite when he recites outloud, even if he cannot hear his voice, according to the text. If he recites with him, what he has done is bad, but his prayer is not invalidated. The basis for this is the words of the Almighty, "When the Qur'an is recited, then listen to it and be silent." Al-Bayhaqi reported from Mujahid that the Messenger of Allah was reciting in the prayer and he heard one of the Ansar reciting, and then the words of the Almighty were revealed: down, "When the Qur'an is recited, then listen to it and be silent." They related it from Mujahid from another path that he said it was during the khutba on Friday, and another path has the prayer and the khutba.]
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    From Sunnipath:

    The Necessity of Reciting the Fatihah

    As The Immaculate Raiment says, “You must recite the whole Fatihah in the standing of every cycle (rak`ah) of every prayer, whether praying alone or in a group, unless in that cycle was insufficient time to recite the whole Fatihah behind the imam, because of his quick recital or because of your coming late, in which case you recite as much as you can (making up for any lost time), then bow.”

    The upshot is that it is essential (fard) for you to recite the Fatihah, unless you are following an imam behind whom there was not enough time to recite it (i.e., at a medium pace). In such a case, you are not obligated to recite the rest of the Fatihah; rather, you are to bow with the imam.
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    From the Hanbali Fiqh Group (No longer active. Indexed at http://mac.abc.se/home/onesr/h/index.html)
    Reciting Al-Fatiha, saying "allahu akbar" when moving from position to position, saying the tasbih at least once when bowing and prostrating, and saying "allahumma ighfir li" between prostrations all personally obligatory for the imam and people praying alone.

    When praying behind an imam, his performance of them suffices for those praying behind. But it is still recommended to recite Al-Fatiha during the four places where the imam is supposed to pause.

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    A related Q:

    for a Hanafi, what is the ruling on reciting the non-quranic parts of the salah behind an imam eg. the thana, the basmala, "subhan rabbiyal adheem" in ruku etc.
    If these are missed out, what must one do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by abd
    A related Q:

    for a Hanafi, what is the ruling on reciting the non-quranic parts of the salah behind an imam eg. the thana, the basmala, "subhan rabbiyal adheem" in ruku etc.
    If these are missed out, what must one do?
    The ta'awwudh and basmalah are really just pre requisites to reciting the Quran, and the Imam's the only person thats gonna be doing that so neither are obligatory on the follower. Subhan rabbiyal adheem and that are sunnah therefore expiation incase of omission is not required.


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    Jazakumullah for that Br. Alex.

    for a Hanafi, what is the ruling on reciting the non-quranic parts of the salah behind an imam eg. the thana, the basmala, "subhan rabbiyal adheem" in ruku etc.
    If these are missed out, what must one do?
    Reciting non-Quranic parts of the Salah (like you mentioned) behind the Imam are considered to be Sunnats.

    If a person forgets any Sunnat of prayer unintentionally then the prayer is still valid and there is no Sajdah Sahw (prostration of forgetfulness) and there is no sin as well.

    Leaving a Sunnah intentionally in Salat is worthy of reproach and admonishment, though the prayer is not invalidated and there is no Sajdah Sahw. Care should be taken to practice upon all the the Sunnats so that leaving a Sunnah does not become our habit.

    Belittling a Sunnah takes a person out of the fold of Islam.

    Also, Brother Abd, the follower of the Imam does not recite the Ta 'Awwuz (A'oozu) and Tasmiyah/Basmalah (Bismillah......).

    Wallahu A'alam,
    -nazim mangera


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