ANSWERED: Maliki Opinion that Masterbaution is Halal? (Under conditions)

[Omar HH]

All this said and done, we will now give the general ruling for masturbation (the stimulation of the genitals in
order to reach ejaculation/orgasm through other than vaginal or anal intercourse):
a) Assisted masturbation (masturbation in which two people are involved) is permissible if done
with one's marital spouse (e.g., oral sex, hand-stroking, placing the genitals on the other person's
body while rubbing, etc.). Assisted masturbation is unlawful if it is done with other than one's
spouse (e.g., a girlfriend, a boyfriend, or an animal).
b) Self masturbation (masturbation in which only one person is involved) is permissible if done
in private (alone or in the presence of one's spouse) and without pornography (or other illicit
materials, such as drugs). Self masturbation is unlawful if done in public (in front of another
person other than one's spouse) or if done with the aid of pornography (or other materials illicit in
our din, such as narcotics).
The above two rulings apply equally to both males and females. Please note that this above ruling is the most
lenient available and, as such, is not the safest. (Guiding Helper Pg. 190 with Explanatory Notes)

I have never heard this opinion. Who narrarated such an opinion?

I always thought there was an 'ijma on this.

Is there?

Jazakallah wa Khayrun

[A D I D A S]

Chek mufti Ibrahims ask imam for more detail
istimna bil yad (masturbation) is haram.

[Omar HH]

Yeah I was just wondering where this opinion orignated, not the legal status of the act.

[A D I D A S]

Where the opinion originated?
are yu talking about post number one?
It must me some kinda mess mufti (if you know what I mean)
go to ask imama hteyll answer your q.
And as far as I can remmber there is ijma that it is haram
wallahu alam

[Mossy]

a) is pretty well-known (squeezing of a muscle?). b) is a minority opinion - the best thing to do would obviously be to ask the GuidingHelper fellows. In the general case, the only time when you can do it is under conditions of extreme need/fear..

[A D I D A S]

Brother mossy can you please tell me which alim/mufti said that you can do it under conditions of extreme need/fear?
Masturbation is haram cant be halal under any condition but nowadays ulama do say that you are allowed to have that sort of med which cools you down.

[Mustafa]

Bismillah

As-salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah

I think brother Mossy is referring to a Hanbali position. This is recorded in the Hanbali text Kashshaf al Qina which states that someone has the rukhsa to masturbate if they fear falling into zina, are unable to marry and *there are NO available Muslims of the opposite gender in their locality for them to marry.*

So long as there is a single available Muslim (of the opposite gender) in the country that they reside in, then the ruling of it being haram still applies. Sidi Musa Furber can give you the exact details.

Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi also recorded the same position in his 'Lawful and Prohibited...' though I don't think he included the above condition (and Allah knows best).

If you've ever heard a lecture by Shaykh Hamza entitled Sowing the Seeds, he mentions that sometimes the ulema would give lenient opinions out of mercy for the ummah. These ulema are not be faulted for that. The people behind the Guiding Helper have recorded the *weakest possible* ruling on the matter in the Maliki madhab out of mercy for their readers, but have mentioned that it is not safe to follow it. This so any Malikis who simply cannot break the habit will not be turned away by the Guiding Helper itself.
The safest path is always the path of taqwa and following the strictest opinion.

I don't know who gave that particular opinion in the Maliki madhab (you'd have to ask the GH people, as has been mentioned) but I'm trying to give you an idea as to why they recorded it.

Other examples of this: drinking coffee, eating too much meat, eating candy and using a printing press to publish the Qur'an were all considered haram by the various ulema in the past. Out of mercy for the ummah, other ulema passed more lenient fatwas. You can ask sidi Abu Jafar al Hanbali over at the Hanbali forum for more details, as I think he's mentioned *some* of these examples in the message boards over there. EDIT: This doesn't mean that masturbation will go the way of these other actions, as the majority position is that it's haraam.

And Allah knows best.

Wa salam
Your brother in Islam

[Yusuf]

Bismillah

As-salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah

I think brother Mossy is referring to a Hanbali position. This is recorded in the Hanbali text Kashshaf al Qina which states that someone has the rukhsa to masturbate if they fear falling into zina, are unable to marry and *there are NO available Muslims of the opposite gender in their locality for them to marry.*

Which is better- To get married with the intention of divorce after fulfillment of sexual pleasure or masturbation?

[A D I D A S]

Which is better- To get married with the intention of divorce after fulfillment of sexual pleasure or masturbation?

Well there is ijmah that user nikah is not jaiz wich means nikah mut'a.

[Yusuf]

Well there is ijmah that user nikah is not jaiz wich means nikah mut'a.

Nikaah with the intention of getting divorced after a period of time is jaaiz.