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    Assalam U Aalaikum

    This is a reminder to all Brothers and Sisters in this forum who are residing in Pakistan (and also outside it) that they should refrain themselves and instruct others to refrain from the writings, speeches and programs of Javed Ahmed Ghamdi who is the head of Al Mawrid Institute Lahore, Renaissance, Understanding Islam, Islamic Issues ets.

    The gentleman and his affiliates are deviants to the extreme of rejecting the Nasoos of the Quran let alone the Hadith. Ghamdi has insulted the Ulemas of Deoband in his book burhan.

    He rejects

    1. Any form of Had (Prescribed Punishment),
    2. Hadith to be direct
    3. Nazool Eesa Alahi Salam and his Life (like Qadiyanis)
    4. Had for an Apostate (Murtad)
    5. Claims the 7 recitations of quran to be wrong (he is a close ally and aide of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer)
    6. Music and Dancing of all sorts is permissible
    7. Jihad against oppression is the only jihad allowed
    8. The Shahadat of a man and woman are equal
    9. There is no concept of Purdah (Hijab / Veil) in Islam,

    Apart from this he is flying high these days by coming on TV brought by GEO Television. Mr. Ghamidi has special interest in Asma Jahangir and Qadinyanis much of whose ideology is reflected in his articles.

    One of his student Khalid Zaheer is Munkareen Hadith Like Islahi, Farahi, Ghulam Ahmed Pervez, Allama Mashriqui. Khalid Zaheer is a professor at LUMS, Lahore (one can expect him to be in places like this). the following link gives some overview of Khalid Zaheer's thoughts

    http://www.islamicissues.info/qa_question.php?qid=362

    Ghamidi's books are Bayan, Mizan and Burhan, the last one being a mockery of Islam, Prophets, Companions, Imams, Muhaditheen and Mufasereens. They are seldomly available in Pakistan but are available at Danish Sara which are regional centers for Ghamidi's Operations.

    The aim of this posting is to request all members not to fall into the traps of Ghamidi. At present he is being fully supported by the Qadiyani Lobby against the Hudood Ordinance. The next target given to GEO and Ghamidi is surely to fight against the 295-C Blasphemy Law, to accomodate Qadiyanis.

    May Allah Save Us All From This Fitna


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    JazakAllah for the information.

    I hope someone knowledgeable in this, like yourself, will compile extracts from his site and present them in an article to ellucidate the point.

    Highly educated, Muslims are most affected by this fitnah. Therefore, a scholarly rebuttal is needed to educate this misinformed population.

    JazakAllah.


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    QUESTION:

    A book by the name of 'Mazhabi Dastanain Aur Unn Ki Haqeeqat' comprising of four volumes. This book is authored by Habib ar-Rahman Siddiqui Khandhalvi.

    Is the afore-mentioned person a Munkir-e-Hadith (Hadith Rejector) or a Pervaizi or does he in reality hold any scholarly status? Please tell me briefly about him.

    In this book, many views that are contradictory to the Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah are written, for example denial of Imam Mahdi and denial of Hazrat Ali being the 4th Caliph etc.

    What is the ruling for such a person and those who agree with his views, follow or propogate them?

    ANSWER:

    Habib ar-Rahman Siddiqui Kandhalvi is a Pervaizi (Munkir-e-Hadith).

    And Pervaiz and his adherents (Parvezi's) - the Ulema have declared them as Kafirs, on the basis of being rejectors of hadith.

    Habib ar-Rahman Siddiqui Kandhalvi [deceased] is the son of a renowned scholar of Islam, Ashfaq ar-Rahman Khandhalvi. Ashfaq ar-Rahman Kandhalvi is famous for his book Hujjat-al-Hadith.

    Both of them are relatives of Sheikh-ul-Hind Muhammad Idrees Khandhalvi (Sheikh-ul-Hadith).

    We do not know anything about Habib ar-Rahman Kandhalvi's scholarly status [ calibre, competence, qualification ] and neither are we aware of any details in regards to his Shuhrat [ recognition, popularity, reputation ]

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

    Answer is correct/approved: Mufti Hameedullah Jhaan

    Darul Iftaa
    Jamia Ashrafia
    Lahore, Pakistan

    November 5th 2004


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    Assalam U Aalaikum

    The gentleman is not a Pervaizi as such. He doesnot claim to refute the status of Hadith directly yet he takes it a stage further ahead and categorizes hadith as something from which Ahkaam (Rulings) cannot be drawn and only Quran is the orignal source. He goest on to say that some Ahadith have been misinterpreted by ALL (yes ALL) the Imams, Mufasirs, Muhaditheen, Fuqah, Ulemas etc. To quote an example is his refutation of the Hadith that says (it is a Mafhoom) Whosoever Changes His Faith, Kill Him.

    According to Ghamidi the ruling on Qital (Killing a Person) when he becomes a Murtad (Apostate) doesnot apply to present times. It was restricted to the time of Holy Prophet Salal Lahu Aalahi Wassalam and after that it had become Mauqoof. (Burhan, by Ghamidi). Ghamidi says that this Hadith has been misinterpreted by all the Ulemas for 1200 years wherein the meaining of Umoom (Generality) has been taken at large. Therefore he concludes that a person cannot be executed if he decides to change his religion from Islam because there is no evidence of it in Quran and Sunnah.

    Ghamidi and his disciples also use the word Quran and Sunnah and separate Hadith from Sunnah.

    Ghamidi draws his knowledge from the most corrupt sources that have plagued pakistan namely

    1. Maududi (Father of all Fitnas including his son)
    2. Amin Ehsan Islahi (demented and deviated further from Maududi)
    3. Hamiduddin Farahi (probably the worst of the lot)

    He calls them the Shabistan Shibli of Knowledge and hails them as the reformists of this time. He has castigated Maulana Rashid Ahmed Gangohi (RA), Qasim Nanatwi (RA), Shaykh ul Hind, Syed Hussain Ahmed Madani, Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Allama Shabbir Ahmed Uthmani and calls them Bigots. According to Ghamidi this group of people (Deobandis) are like an old building with rotten foundations that will become empty by itself through passage of time.

    Ghamadi enjoys special company with Robert Spencer and Danielt Pipes. What is interesting is that Ghamdi and his associates particularly Moiz Amjad have tried to defend Islam against the criticism of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer and have miserably (deliberately) failed! In fact they have subscribed to the views of these two critics with special reference to the 7 Recitations of Quran, which according to Ghamdi and his teachers are practices of Juhul and have no place in Islam.

    Wassalam


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    I remember I used to get daily/weekly emails from the Studying Islam site, which is affiliated with the Al-Mawrid Institute. I've never had anybody tell me anything about them, so I never had a reason to suspect anything. However, I ended up unsubscribing to the email list because some of the things they said seemed a bit too off to me. Like it was all a bit too liberal (I don't remember what particular issue I disagreed with them on, it might have been support for a woman imam leading mixed prayers, or something).

    Even though I've shown very little inclination to being a good muslim and following the commands of Allah as I should, He keeps guiding me away from deviant groups. Staying away from the salafis was easy, because when they talk about Islam I want to run away. But like, other places it's harder to tell. For a new muslim, Al-Mawrid seems ok, yet I veered away from that. And earlier on, perhaps even before actually converting to Islam, I took a bit of an interest in the Submitters sect, yet turned away from them also (same issue with the studying islam/al mawrid people: they seem to lack legitimacy).
    How can a new convert be expecte to navigate these trecherous waters without some guidance? I thank Allah for the guidance He's given me, even though I've failed Him time and time again.
    "Every time I argue with a fool I lose."
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    On physical death vs. spiritual death:
    "Corpses don't shake the world up nearly so much as consumers."
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    once a person leave Taqlid, then it produces a person like Ghamidi.

    many qadiyanies, parwaizi, extras were ex-non-muqalids.
    http://www.darsequran.com
    http://www.al-inaam.com/tasawwuf/tasawwuf.htm
    http://tasawwuf.org
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    Through our worship we speak to Him.
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    Mufti Kamal, Shaykh Zulfiqar's khalifa teaches full-time at LUMS and has countered Khalid Zaheer's influence to a large extent.


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    I have observed ghamidi on pakistani tv

    He is a shaytaan from the shayateen


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    Quote Originally Posted by tazkiyyah
    I have observed ghamidi on pakistani tv

    He is a shaytaan from the shayateen
    Yeah. PTV is lethal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by majhul
    Mufti Kamal, Shaykh Zulfiqar's khalifa teaches full-time at LUMS .
    Allah SWT protect him and make his presence a blessing for that institution. Ameen!


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