Mischievous barelwi accusations

[Husain]

I'm sorry Mr. Soofie Sahib but that is the lamest defence of Anwar Shah anyone has come up with so far! It is mind-bogglingly bad!

Well, if simple statements like these can boggle the minds of Barealvis, its easy to see why our Ulama have so greatly excelled them.

If what you say is true then why have Deobandis been singing the praises of this book Fayd al Bari for decades

So simple to understand - as long as you have the basic capibilities required for it.
Fayd al-Bari is a great, unmatched book which has been praised and will inshallah be praised until Qiyamah.
Does a book being praiseworthy mean that it is free of mistakes?
If so, then the only book that could be classified as praiseworthy is the Quran!

and, by extension, those of Shaykh Anwar Shah then and not, as should be by rights, Mawlana Badr e Alam?!

Wow, u really have a comprehension problem!
Because the student wrote down the lesson of his teacher, the contents of the lesson are the students???
Then, you will say that the Quran should be attributed to the scribes who wrote down the wahi, as they are the ones who wrote it!

Maybe, I should take this last statement back, before a certain group starts saying the Deobandis say that it is the scribes who brought us the Wahi and not Nabi Sallallahu alaihi wasallam!!!

Or is it a case that whilst people are praising this book we will let Anwar Shah take the praise but as soon as its dubious contents are exposed we will wash Anwar Shah's hands off it and put the blame on poor old Badr e Alam?

When the student slipped up in his recording of his teachers lesson, I suppose you will attribute the mistake to the teacher, even when the teacher has clearly stated to the contrary!

If u use logic like this, then you should also be saying that as the ahadith are attributed to Nabi (sallallahi alahi wasallam) inspite of them being compiled and preserved by the narrators who came later on, thus any mistakes made in the recording of the ahadith should - na'uzubillah- be also attributed to our Beloved Habib (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)!!!

Thats the logic of "your group"!

Such duplicity is not becoming of Muslims.

He who is cockeyed, will see double every where!

[tazkiyyah]

It is somewhat disconcerting that people ,on finding these quotes, rejoice as if they
have found a tasty new Indian restaurant and lick their fingers and crave to eat.
But rather than giving husn adh dhann, what they wish to eat is the flesh of the ulema,
which is no less than poison.
Khayr,Qiyamah is Haq,
and the ulema and sufis like muhyiduin ibn arabi and abdal kareem jili have their maqaam
on qiyamah
And people like hazrat anwar shah who dedicated his life to the defence of the deen
surely has his maqaam.
And these small people who can barely string 2 lines of arabic and yet want to feast on the flesh of the awliya- let them.Let them roast in hellfire.
Let them all roast in the Blazing tormentuos fire of hell.
Leave them to their feast.

WIth this my last post on sunniforum and all other net forums

Ma asalama People

[skeptic sunni]

It is somewhat disconcerting that people ,on finding these quotes, rejoice as if they
have found a tasty new Indian restaurant and lick their fingers and crave to eat.
But rather than giving husn adh dhann, what they wish to eat is the flesh of the ulema,
which is no less than poison.
Khayr,Qiyamah is Haq,
and the ulema and sufis like muhyiduin ibn arabi and abdal kareem jili have their maqaam
on qiyamah
And people like hazrat anwar shah who dedicated his life to the defence of the deen
surely has his maqaam.
And these small people who can barely string 2 lines of arabic and yet want to feast on the flesh of the awliya- let them.Let them roast in hellfire.
Let them all roast in the Blazing tormentuos fire of hell.
Leave them to their feast.

WIth this my last post on sunniforum and all other net forums

Ma asalama People

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Soofi sahib,

To you these quotes might be just 'an error' but surely you realise that the reason we so-called obtuse Sunnis are raking the ashes of this issue is that the whole edifice of Islam stands or falls on the issue of the infallibility of the Quranic text. To dismiss this as an error made by Kashmiri sahib's scribe
during transrciption is the hight of delusion. Surely Kashmiri sahib had his sribes' works checked before allowing for publication? And if he didn't spot the huge implications of such a slip (hard to believe in someone so learned--and yet knowledge itself is not enough: Azazel was also very learned ere his Fall) then some one responsible for the publication of the book Fayd al Bari must have?

My comprehension of English text is fine my good Sir, it is the nonchalant manner in which you brush over this not trivial issue which pains us. If you can rush to the defence of a work which contains such a glaring mistake vis-a-vis Islamic orthodox Sunni doctrine--simply because it was penned by one of your partisan scholars, then one shudders to think at what you would need to find in their books before you condemned them!

Using this logic, since 95% of the Satanic Verses probably contains fine English prose and no offensive material towards the Blessed Messenger alayhisalatu wa salam should Muslims ignore the offensive 5%? Yet Rushdie is condemned all over, and rightly so, by the world's Muslims for the blasphemies he wrote against our Lord (azza wa jalla) and our Master aalyhisalam. Yet you're argument is exactly this that since Fayd al Bari contains a lot of excellent material we should overlook the blasphemies therein in the name of 'unity'.

That, sir, is why the mind boggles--and not due to any brilliance in the writing abilities of your ulama.

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[eTeacher]

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