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    Default Mr. Stephen Suleyman Schwartz attacks Shaikh Hamza [again!!!]

    Imam al-Zarqani said in his book Manahil al-Irfan: 'Our Scholars agreed that if a word carries 99 aspects of disbelief and one aspect of faith, it must be interpreted according to the best of meanings, which is faith'.

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    This guy needs to get a life.


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    Just another neo-con, babbling idiot who didn't get his mother's love as an infant.
    you were sad when some girl doesn't like you? you call that rejection? and you listen to songs about that? i'll tell you what rejection is. rejection is to be rejected by your beloved messenger (s) on the day of judgment. that is rejection. write a song about that. - Mufti Kamal (db)


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    Asalaamualaykum, well looks like this dude needs to get his facts right no?
    shaykh hamzah yusuf was always a sufi and sufis have always been warriors of islam didnt he know that? lol
    As for his statment about sudden sufis lol well that speaks for itself, he clearly does not know shaykh hamzah yusuf and his sufi teachers one of them shaykh abdal qadir as sufi aka Ian dallas , who is very political as well as a teacher of tasawwuf [ sufism ].

    One more thing for this man with his fatwa , when did the sufis leave jihad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by celt islam View Post
    when did the sufis leave jihad?
    In the past couple of decades (after WWII ?).


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    Quote Originally Posted by if0rg0t View Post
    In the past couple of decades (after WWII ?).
    Asalaamualaykum, well dont mean to be rude but that does not make any historic sense , you have the moros of mindanio , the chechen sufi warriors, the sufis of afghanistan and the sufis of bosnia just a few you missed out.
    You will find that muslims have been fighting every since world war two and many of them from among the sufis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by celt islam View Post
    Asalaamualaykum, well dont mean to be rude but that does not make any historic sense , you have the moros of mindanio , the chechen sufi warriors, the sufis of afghanistan and the sufis of bosnia just a few you missed out.
    You will find that muslims have been fighting every since world war two and many of them from among the sufis.
    and what about the afghan mujahideen - they are from traditions deeply embedded with tasawwuf.

    and i hear also of sufis in iraq taking part in the 'insurgency'.



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    i like this bit:

    "But non-Muslims should be wary of "sudden Sufis" like Hamza Yusuf Hanson, and other extremists claiming to be moderates."

    ...which should really be:

    "But non-Muslims should be wary of real sufis like Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, and other real sufis that the government call moderates."



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    Quote Originally Posted by sufisticated View Post
    i like this bit:

    "But non-Muslims should be wary of "sudden Sufis" like Hamza Yusuf Hanson, and other extremists claiming to be moderates."

    ...which should really be:

    "But non-Muslims should be wary of real sufis like Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, and other real sufis that the government call moderates."

    nice 1 ehehhe lol


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