Hijab, secularism, turkey

[loveProphet]

Very sad to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh77eo03oTU

What do you nthink?

[sasjamal]

I believe the solution is Tasawwuf.

If we alll work on ourselves, we can help others -

We need to purify our intentions first, then we can help those sisters who are being forced to not wear Hijab.

Sas

[Neyzen]

Assalamu Alaikum

In this video, a lady says some students published magazines against government. It is totally wrong. secularist dogs r just barking.

and also a new law was made in army, to be an officer, general, etc they also look at your family members, if anyone from your family is being pious then you can never be an officer and if you are an officer, you will be fired.

but sad thing is that some muslims who claim to be good muslims, want to be a soldier when you ask why they want so, they say they will change the things to better, but they can not do anything else, their family life collapse, their children is unaware of deen. If we give up our dawah by taking hijab off or not sending our kids to quran school , then we will never win

massalamaah

[Habib1968]

Salam alaikoum ;

one of the results of this is that most of our turkish brothers and sisters are to nationalist so that the fact that to be a turk is more important that to be a muslim . I live in germany and I know what I am talking about ; in some of there mosques ( who are normaly the houses of God ) , you kann see a big flag of there country ; I never saw that in other mosques...

Salam alaikoum wa rahmatoullah wa barakatouh


Habib

[Neyzen]

salam

love of homeland is a part of iman,

but turks exaggerate it a lot, it is cause of the weakness of faith knowledge

massalamah

[abu abdul-kareem]

love of homeland is a part of iman,

Could you give a reference for that, is it a prophetic or a scholarly statement?

[ENIGMA]

When I read the bbc comments pages on is lamic subjects, I can only laugh when a turk makes a comment on islam. They are so blinded by ataturk and what division he caused in the ummah.

[Neyzen]

When I read the bbc comments pages on is lamic subjects, I can only laugh when a turk makes a comment on islam. They are so blinded by ataturk and what division he caused in the ummah.

salam

have you ever read any history book of Turkey? Have you ever been to Turkey? I wonder how you would react if you lived in Turkey. If you say anything against turkish secularist system, you are gonna be prisoned, it was much more tough before. For instance some ulama were hanged or they would die before ther court process end. and court would says he will be hanged, they would dig the grave and hang the corpse to fullfill the execution.

i think it will be enough to realise, or condiser pakistans current state, how would you react if you lived in pakistan?if you could dare, talk against british or american policies,

[lumumba_s]

Could you give a reference for that, is it a prophetic or a scholarly statement?

That is a well-known hadith, but I can't remember where it is collected at the moment.

[GunsOfPatriot]

I spoke about this in an earlier thread. The Turkish secularists are somewhat in fear of the Islamic Party taking over and changing the policies and bringing the Shariah System back. I read and heard from many Turkish citizens that there is a split in Turkey as of now. Most of the government is controlled by individuals who are linked to the Islamic party, therefore, the secularists and the Army of Turkey are a bit hesitant and on the trigger just in case these individuals try to overthrow whatever Kemal Attaturk established.

Anyways, Kemal Attaturk was a [snip] JEW!