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    Default Mufti of the Shafi'is - Imam al-Ramli (rh) on Istigatha (seeking Aid with the Awliya)

    The fatwa of the famous Shafi'i Imam, Shaikh Shams al-Din al-Ramli RH. on Istigatha (Seeking Aid)



    His father is Imam Shihab al-Din al-Ramli and he was a student of Shaykh al-Islam Zakarriya al-Ansari.

    Needless to say he is a massive authority for the Shafi'is!

    The Askimam site has a short biography of the shaikh (rh) HERE for those who require more information about him.


    The following is an interesting fatwa of his:

    see: Fatwa of Imam al-Ramli

    ( سُئِلَ ) عَمَّا يَقَعُ مِنْ الْعَامَّةِ مِنْ قَوْلِهِمْ عِنْدَ الشَّدَائِدِ يَا شَيْخُ فُلَانٌ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَنَحْوِ ذَلِكَ مِنْ الِاسْتِغَاثَةِ بِالْأَنْبِيَاءِ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ وَالْأَوْلِيَاءِ وَالْعُلَمَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ فَهَلْ ذَلِكَ جَائِزٌ أَمْ لَا وَهَلْ لِلرُّسُلِ وَالْأَنْبِيَاءِ وَالْأَوْلِيَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ وَالْمَشَايِخِ إغَاثَةٌ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهِمْ وَمَاذَا يُرَجِّحُ ذَلِكَ ؟ ( فَأَجَابَ ) بِأَنَّ الِاسْتِغَاثَةَ بِالْأَنْبِيَاءِ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ وَالْأَوْلِيَاءِ وَالْعُلَمَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ جَائِزَةٌ وَلِلرُّسُلِ وَالْأَنْبِيَاءِ وَالْأَوْلِيَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ إغَاثَةٌ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهِمْ ؛ لِأَنَّ مُعْجِزَةَ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ وَكَرَامَاتِ الْأَوْلِيَاءِ لَا تَنْقَطِعُ بِمَوْتِهِمْ . أَمَّا الْأَنْبِيَاءُ فَلِأَنَّهُمْ أَحْيَاءٌ فِي قُبُورِهِمْ يُصَلُّونَ وَيَحُجُّونَ كَمَا وَرَدَتْ بِهِ الْأَخْبَارُ وَتَكُونُ الْإِغَاثَةُ مِنْهُمْ مُعْجِزَةً لَهُمْ . وَالشُّهَدَاءُ أَيْضًا أَحْيَاءٌ شُوهِدُوا نَهَارًا جِهَارًا يُقَاتِلُونَ الْكُفَّارَ . وَأَمَّا الْأَوْلِيَاءُ فَهِيَ كَرَامَةٌ لَهُمْ فَإِنَّ أَهْلَ الْحَقِّ عَلَى أَنَّهُ يَقَعُ مِنْ الْأَوْلِيَاءِ بِقَصْدٍ وَبِغَيْرِ قَصْدٍ أُمُورٌ خَارِقَةٌ لِلْعَادَةِ يُجْرِيهَا اللَّهُ تَعَالَى بِسَبَبِهِمْ وَالدَّلِيلُ عَلَى جَوَازِهَا أَنَّهَا أُمُورٌ مُمْكِنَةٌ لَا يَلْزَمُ مِنْ جَوَازِ وُقُوعِهَا مُحَالٌ وَكُلُّ مَا هَذَا شَأْنُهُ فَهُوَ جَائِزُ الْوُقُوعِ وَعَلَى الْوُقُوعِ قِصَّةُ مَرْيَمَ وَرِزْقُهَا الْآتِي مِنْ عِنْدِ اللَّهِ عَلَى مَا نَطَقَ بِهِ التَّنْزِيلُ وَقِصَّةُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ ، وَأَضْيَافِهِ كَمَا فِي الصَّحِيحِ وَجَرَيَانُ النِّيلِ بِكِتَابِ عُمَرَ وَرُؤْيَتُهُ وَهُوَ عَلَى الْمِنْبَرِ بِالْمَدِينَةِ جَيْشَهُ بِنَهَاوَنْدَ حَتَّى قَالَ لِأَمِيرِ الْجَيْشِ يَا سَارِيَةَ الْجَبَلَ مُحَذِّرًا لَهُ مِنْ وَرَاءِ الْجَبَلِ لِكَمِينِ الْعَدُوِّ هُنَاكَ ، وَسَمَاعُ سَارِيَةَ كَلَامَهُ وَبَيْنَهُمَا مَسَافَةُ شَهْرَيْنِ ، وَشُرْبُ خَالِدٍ السُّمَّ مِنْ غَيْرِ تَضَرُّرٍ بِهِ . وَقَدْ جَرَتْ خَوَارِقُ عَلَى أَيْدِي الصَّحَابَةِ وَالتَّابِعِينَ وَمَنْ بَعْدَهُمْ لَا يُمْكِنُ إنْكَارُهَا لِتَوَاتُرِ مَجْمُوعِهَا ، وَبِالْجُمْلَةِ مَا جَازَ أَنْ يَكُونَ مُعْجِزَةً لِنَبِيٍّ جَازَ أَنْ يَكُونَ كَرَامَةً لِوَلِيٍّ لَا فَارِقَ بَيْنَهُمَا إلَّا التَّحَدِّي .

    [Rough translation - please advise if their are any mistakes]


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    The Imam was asked:

    Regarding what occurs amongst the awwam who when in distress say "Ya sheikh fulan" and "Ya RasulAllah" and things like this from seeking aid (istighatha) with the prophets and the awliya the ulema and the righteous - is this permitted or not? And do the Messengers, Prophets, Awliya, the righteous, and the Mashayikh possess the ability to assist others after their deaths and what strengthens that view?

    SEE:

    http://www.************/index.php?opt...d=17&Itemid=48

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    Last edited by faqir; 29-12-2007 at 02:21 PM.
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