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    Default Shaykh Gibril on Stephen Schwartz

    As-Salamu `alaykum:

    Hysteria needs its voices and Stephen Schwartz is only one of them. As
    the antithesis of clear thinking and good writing he is like a reverse
    guide to authentic anti-Wahhabi writers such as Abd al-Hakim Murad.

    The comparison of Schwartz to Pipes and Emerson is extremely apt, add
    the creators of such sites as Jihad Watch and many others. Such people
    are the writing equivalent of callous policy-making on the ground. So
    the sayings apply to them as well, that "We all have to be concerned
    about terrorism, but you will never end terrorism by terrorizing
    others" (Martin Luther King III); "Everybody's worried about stopping
    terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it"
    (Noam Chomsky).

    Both the literate terrorism of ostensibly anti-Wahhabi Islamophobes
    and the literal terrorism of ostensibly anti-Wahhabi policies pour
    into a single result in the end: to make of all Muslims, by hook or
    by crook, public enemy Number One. In their eyes we are all Wahhabis,
    so it may well be that this is what we shall become in their face.

    As for the attacks on the person of Shaykh Hamza, in earlier times
    it would have been enough to treat them the way of Imam al-Shafi`i's
    advice in the face of barking dogs: "silence them by ignoring them."
    However, since we live in a dishonorable age which thrives on the
    systematic propagation of lies and opportunism at the cost of truth,
    defenders of truth cannot remain silent.

    GF Haddad


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    Great stuff but posting stuff on an online forum will get it posted and spread everywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar HH View Post
    Great stuff but posting stuff on an online forum will get it posted and spread everywhere.
    Shaykh Gibril has given blanket permission to his forum for his written words to be posted anywhere.



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    How are you on his forum? Is it by invitation only? Or can anyone join?


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    salamu `alaykum

    No, not everyone can join. It is a private group, access to which is given by shaykh Gibril after requesting. Its usually strictly for scholars and students of knowledge, or those closely linked to scholars.

    I dont know if sidi Gibril likes his group to be advertised....

    Wasalam
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    May My Soul be sacrificed for your soul, my beloved, my master Muhammad - peace and blessing upon you- !

    روحي لروحك الفداء يا حبيبي يا سيدي محمد


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanirfan View Post
    How are you on his forum? Is it by invitation only? Or can anyone join?


    I used to send Shaykh Gibril a lot of questions at one time, after discovering him on soc.religion.islam (a group I do not recommend to anyone, frankly). Because of that, when he started up his group, he invited me onto it. I felt honoured to be so invited, so I joined. May Allah continue to benefit us with Shaykh Gibril.

    Many of the discussions are way over my head. Many of them have to do with Deobandi-Barelwi issues, which I try to stay away from.



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    Sa`d, please come back dude!! I am sorry about our debate I really am. I wasn't trying to be mean! I can learn alot from you...!


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