The First Thing Allah created?

[umm_madina]

Assalamualikum,

I am was just having a discussion about the First Thing Allah created....i learnt it was the Nur of beloved prophet (saw)....can someone verify this for me please?

JazakAllah,
wa'salam

[loveProphet]

Yes you are correct.

[Saad]

I have come across this hadees:

The Prophet (PBUH) says, “The first thing created by Allah was the pen, then, He ordered it to write, so it wrote everything that will happen till the Day of Judgment.” (narrated by At-Tirmidhi, Abu-Dawud, and Ahmad). This Hadith is narrated in another way by Al-Bukhari. His narration will make it clearer for you. He says that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) says, “Allah (SWT) said to the pen write my knowledge about my creatures until the Day of Judgment.”

[Yahya]

Some use the Hadith of al-Bukhari which means "Allah existed and there was nothing other than Him. And His Arsh was on the water. And He ordered the pen to write...." to say that the first creation was water (and with it time and place), then the Arsh, then the pen, then the tablet.

Some use the hadith that the first thing created was the light of Muhammad . This hadith, however, is controversial. It is narrated by Abdurrazzaq, but is not found in all of the manuscripts of his Sunan. Furthermore, there are other ahadith that contradict it, such as the hadith where Rasoolullah says that everything was created from water. There is also an ayah that means that every living thing was created from water.

For these reasons, that hadith is a major subject of debate among scholars.

Allahu 'Alam.

[OneLife]

Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Mufti Ahmed Rashid Gangohi both were of the view that the first of creation was the Nur of the Prophet .

There is an article by Shaykh Nuh Keller that elaborates on the issue a lot more too: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/masudq7.htm

[loveProphet]

Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Mufti Ahmed Rashid Gangohi both were of the view that the first of creation was the Nur of the Prophet .

There is an article by Shaykh Nuh Keller that elaborates on the issue a lot more too: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/masudq7.htm

Yeah, see:

The Prophet Is The First Creation & The Root Of All Blessings: Maulana Ashraf `Ali Thanawi

[slave of allah]

there are alot hadith saying differeny things where created first. the prophet (saw) nur, water, pen etc all being backed up by hadith.

[umm_madina]

there are alot hadith saying differeny things where created first. the prophet (saw) nur, water, pen etc all being backed up by hadith.

Exactly! I guess there is no one answer then. Thanks.

[Omar HH]

Some say it was water, but some say the Nur of the Prophet . Obviously the Nur of the Prophet is more important.

[slave of allah]

it must be noted that majority of the times i have read the hadith regarding the nur of the prophet (saw) it is in books discussion the greatest and virtues of the prophet (saw) and alike alot of books for fazaail weak ahadith are used. but like the brother said earlier no one exactly knows and i dont think it is really important had it been so there would have been a clear answere