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    Salaam Aleikum.
    Let's say you're at the masjid, it's 10 minutes before the prayer starts,when you walk in should you first read tahiyyatul masjid and then do the sunnah prayers (ex:4 sunnah before 4 fard of zhur)? What order should you do it in?

    Also in Hanafi fiqh, if you're in the 1st rakah of a sunnah prayer and you're at the masjid (let's say it's the 4 sunnah before 4 fard of zuhr), and the iqamah is read, should you break your prayer or what?

    I read in a book that one should read 4 rakat before the 2 fard of jummah. Is this correct in Hanafi fiqh? Is this a kind of sunnah where if we omit it a lot it becomes sinful (Like omitting the 2 sunnah before fajr, 2 after maghrib,etc)?
    Is it sinful in Hanafi fiqh to omit the 4 sunnah and 2 sunnah and then 2 nafl after the 2 fard rakat of Jummah? I hadn't thought of it,because I see many people leaving right after the 2 fard rkat of jummah-didnt know if it was wajib,etc.

    If you're late to the masjid, and you missed 3 rakat let's say, you join the last rakat of ishaa prayer,then after imam turns to the left to say assalamu aleikum, you get up and you finish your prayer,right but you get up and finish your prayer without putting your hands to your head again and making takbir,as if you were staring a salaah from beginning right?

    Please someone answer these questions insha'Allah. Allah will reward you insha'Allah for helping me out.
    Jazak Allah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    Salaam Aleikum.
    Let's say you're at the masjid, it's 10 minutes before the prayer starts,when you walk in should you first read tahiyyatul masjid and then do the sunnah prayers (ex:4 sunnah before 4 fard of zhur)? What order should you do it in?
    Wa Alaikum Salam wa Rahmatullah,

    If you have time to calmy do both with your highest level of khushu, then do both. If you think you only have time to do one or the other, you should do the sunnah of dhuhr (4 rakaat). One salaah has a stronger place in the sunnah, that is my reasoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    Also in Hanafi fiqh, if you're in the 1st rakah of a sunnah prayer and you're at the masjid (let's say it's the 4 sunnah before 4 fard of zuhr), and the iqamah is read, should you break your prayer or what?
    You should break your salaah because fard is more important than sunnah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    I read in a book that one should read 4 rakat before the 2 fard of jummah. Is this correct in Hanafi fiqh? Is this a kind of sunnah where if we omit it a lot it becomes sinful (Like omitting the 2 sunnah before fajr, 2 after maghrib,etc)?
    Yes, but only if the second athan hasn't been called and you will have enough time to complete the sunnah.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    Is it sinful in Hanafi fiqh to omit the 4 sunnah and 2 sunnah and then 2 nafl after the 2 fard rakat of Jummah? I hadn't thought of it,because I see many people leaving right after the 2 fard rkat of jummah-didnt know if it was wajib,etc.
    To my knowledge the sunnah of Jum'ah is 4 rakaat before and 4 rakaat after the fard. It is encouraged to do the sunnah after the fard at home if you live near the masjid, so do not judge people because they may be doing that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    If you're late to the masjid, and you missed 3 rakat let's say, you join the last rakat of ishaa prayer,then after imam turns to the left to say assalamu aleikum, you get up and you finish your prayer,right but you get up and finish your prayer without putting your hands to your head again and making takbir,as if you were staring a salaah from beginning right?
    I don't understand.


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    jazak Allah,but it says you don't follow a madhab, so insha'Allah I'll wait for smeone who follows a madhab and can tell me from that perspective.
    The last question was, if you're late for congregtiona salaah, you join the imam at the 3rd rakat,then after he says salaam aleikum you get up and make up the missed rakats-im saying,when you get up, you don't have to put your hands to your ears and say Allahu Akbar, since you already said it when you joined the congregation late.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahmoud Siddiqi View Post

    You should break your salaah because fard is more important than sunnah.
    Abu Huraira reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: When the prayer commences, there is no prayer but the obligatory one.(Sahih Muslim salatul musafireen)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
    jazak Allah,but it says you don't follow a madhab, so insha'Allah I'll wait for smeone who follows a madhab and can tell me from that perspective.
    The last question was, if you're late for congregtiona salaah, you join the imam at the 3rd rakat,then after he says salaam aleikum you get up and make up the missed rakats-im saying,when you get up, you don't have to put your hands to your ears and say Allahu Akbar, since you already said it when you joined the congregation late.


    When I speak, I speak from what I know of Qur'an and Sunnah and what the imam says, regardless if I follow only what Abu Hanifa, Imam Ahmad, etc says.

    I believe you are right with your last question, but cannot provide proof at the moment, so please consult someone with more knowledge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salafi View Post
    Abu Huraira reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: When the prayer commences, there is no prayer but the obligatory one.(Sahih Muslim salatul musafireen)
    But you can't get a rule from this single Hadith - for instance, what if you're already praying the Sunnah prayer? Do you break it or not?
    See, this specific Hadith does not clarify this, but it points out that one cannot commence the Sunna or Nawafil prayer if the Fard already begun.

    I think I read in the Hanafi Fiqh book that if you're in the middle of the Sunnah and the Fard commences, and if you feel you can comfortably finish it, then you finish it and then join the Fard.

    Then when imaam finishes the prayer with Salaam, then you get up and you do raise your hands and say Iftitahi Takbeer and then you pray those missed Rakah.
    Mods avoid answering my questions, perhaps they're too hard for them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AbdulQahhar View Post
    But you can't get a rule from this single Hadith - for instance, what if you're already praying the Sunnah prayer? Do you break it or not?
    See, this specific Hadith does not clarify this, but it points out that one cannot commence the Sunna or Nawafil prayer if the Fard already begun.

    I think I read in the Hanafi Fiqh book that if you're in the middle of the Sunnah and the Fard commences, and if you feel you can comfortably finish it, then you finish it and then join the Fard.

    Then when imaam finishes the prayer with Salaam, then you get up and you do raise your hands and say Iftitahi Takbeer and then you pray those missed Rakah.
    Yup, thats generally the case with fajar salat, when Imam usually reads long Surahs and you see people finishhing thier sunnat while the fard salat is going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbdulQahhar View Post
    I think I read in the Hanafi Fiqh book that if you're in the middle of the Sunnah and the Fard commences, and if you feel you can comfortably finish it, then you finish it and then join the Fard.
    assalamo alaikum
    which sunnah? i think its about fajr.
    wasslaam


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salafi View Post
    assalamo alaikum
    which sunnah? i think its about fajr.
    wasslaam
    Any Sunnah prayer, even Fajr Sunnah.
    The only difference - by my knowledge between Fajr Sunnah and other Sunnah prayers is that this prayer is the most worthy of all the Sunnah prayers.

    But the rules are the same - you can't just break the salah, and if you join the congregational prayer at the last sajdah - it will be valid as if you started from the first kijam, insha'Allah.
    Mods avoid answering my questions, perhaps they're too hard for them?


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    Prophet saw said: When the prayer commences, there is no prayer but the obligatory one.

    what is the use of continuing sunnah prayer? congrigational prayer is fard/wajib.

    it is a general command.

    if there is any taqyeed or takhsees (exceptions) than it should be proved.


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