Not when people label bidah and derogatory remarks freely and openly like some. Abduallah was defending himself and i dont blame him.
Also you dont know the editing of the program, it was by BBC non Muslims. How do you know he didnt answer with hadith???? but the bbc only showed that to provoke reaction? Allah asks us to verify.
So verify he didnt mean what he said in the way it was shown? If you cant who does your imaan say you trust.
a non Muslim (BBC) or a Muslim (Abdullah). It goes to show you cant walk around shouting "bidah" to everything you dont know about (it is extremely offensive),
to then proclaim Unity defies beleif. a bit like someone slapping u and then saying "hey why arent we uniting"?
My sources tell me that the lady called 'Pom' on the programme has accepted islam. She's going to Morroco soon to study Arabic. Alhamdulillah.
Allahu Akbar, bro is this true or u just saying?
i just finished watching it about an hour ago and i loved it. i was real pleased with the way the bbc are finally showing the sufi way of islam.
But one thing that dissapointed me - aishah (the salafi girl) is influencing azim (the other guy). I think its ok for her to give her dawah but he's lusting for her and thats really affecting his position on zikr and the whole sufi lifestyle. At the start of the program he was the enthusiastic one and his roommate mudasar was still finding it hard to settle in but by the end of the show - everything had changed. Mudasar was on a spiritual high even the morning AFTER the zikr (in morocco) but azim hadnt enjoyed the zikr at all because he thought it was unislamic - hmmm, i wonder where he got that idea . i found it frustrating though that no1 really ever outlined the reasons aisha believes zikr is unislamic (or bidah) and how shortspread (or widespread- i dont know) her views are in the islamic world.
that is just my personal review of the show but i would love to see opinions from other muslims (and non-muslims) since im not really as well-educated islamically
btw - i thought it was abit weird how at the first few fajr prayers only the athiest turned up for jamaat.
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Watched both programmes and I have to say I felt uncomfortable with some of the practices albeit due to my lack of knowledge on different types of tasawwuf.
I think Abdullah could have helped Aisha better by explaining how tasawwuf is part and parcel of Islam and lineage can be traced back to the companions of our prophet (saw) and of course in turn to our prophet (saw) himself.
Not sure if Azim's attitude to the zikr in Morocco was influenced wholly by Aisha but more to do with natural instincts about something he had no knowledge or experience of. I mean lets be honest how many of us watched it and also felt uncomfortable?
Alhamdulillah pom has accepted Islam as bro Enigma has pointed out and from what I have been told she is now in Morocco learning Arabic.
I am new here and I believe there are ulemas on here mashallah! maybe they can tell us what type of zikr it is and whether it's recognised amongst the mainstream school of thoughts?
i know the scholar they had brother Iqbal he is from my area he is maliki and he's shaykh is from morroco dont know who maybe someone does know?
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I missed the 2nd episode
anywhere i can watch a repeat????????????????????????????????