Stealing from kuffar in dar al harb-what did the akabir say

[tazkiyyah]

In my country some people think its okay to rip off the kuffar as they r not muslim....

Came across this amazing statement from mawlana thanvi(ra)

Mawlana qasim nantowi(ra) nay is kay mutaliq aik ajeeb baat farmayi jis se maloom hota hai kay kaafir ka maal laina musulmaan kay maal lainay say bhi zyada bura hai.
Chunachay mawlana nay farmaya kay bhaiyee agar kisi ka haqq hi rakhna ho, toh musulmaan ka rakh lay.kaafir ka na rakhay, kyun kay qayamat main zaalim ki naikiya mazloom ko dee jayaingi.
Toh agar kisi musulmaan par zulm kiya, toh namaz roza zalim ka toh iskay bhayi hi ko milain ga.toh agar zaahir mein zulm kiya toh baatin mein qawmi hamdardi bhi to ki kay apni naikiya isko dain dee .Aur agar kaafir ka haq rakha, toh apni naikiya parayain ghar.
Phir iss surat mein...na tumhara bhalla,na iska bhalla. Kyun kay woh toh phir bhi jahanam mein to gaya....

Bahar haal mawlana ki taqreer se maloom huwa kay kaafir ka maal laina musulmaan kay maal lene se zyaada buraa hai

[tazkiyyah]

taken from
ashraf al jawab
page 956

Proving it is worse to steal from a kaafir than a muslim!
Wow...

Look how noble our akabir were..
I think the christians jews and hindus would have loved for the akabir of deoband to rule england with such justice

[lumumba_s]

If sidi hamza yusuf had made that statement..you would have said..oh hes just appeasing them

Are you serious?

[SeekerOfGuidance]

In my country some people think its okay to rip off the kuffar as they r not muslim....

Came across this amazing statement from mawlana thanvi(ra)

Mawlana qasim nantowi(ra) nay is kay mutaliq aik ajeeb baat farmayi jis se maloom hota hai kay kaafir ka maal laina musulmaan kay maal lainay say bhi zyada bura hai.
Chunachay mawlana nay farmaya kay bhaiyee agar kisi ka haqq hi rakhna ho, toh musulmaan ka rakh lay.kaafir ka na rakhay, kyun kay qayamat main zaalim ki naikiya mazloom ko dee jayaingi.
Toh agar kisi musulmaan par zulm kiya, toh namaz roza zalim ka toh iskay bhayi hi ko milain ga.toh agar zaahir mein zulm kiya toh baatin mein qawmi hamdardi bhi to ki kay apni naikiya isko dain dee .Aur agar kaafir ka haq rakha, toh apni naikiya parayain ghar.
Phir iss surat mein...na tumhara bhalla,na iska bhalla. Kyun kay woh toh phir bhi jahanam mein to gaya....

Bahar haal mawlana ki taqreer se maloom huwa kay kaafir ka maal laina musulmaan kay maal lene se zyaada buraa hai

Pls can someone translate the above.

[ridhwan]

Mawlana Qasim Nanotvi in regards to this subject stated a strange thing from which one can glean/know that it is worse to take [steal or not to return etc] belongings/wealth from a Kafir than taking from the belongings/wealth of a Muslim.

Mawlana stated that: "Brother, if you desire to withhold the haqq ( rights ) of someone, then withhold it from a Muslim. Do not withhold the right of the Kafir. Because on the Day of Qiyama, the good deeds of the oppressor/wrongdoer will be given to the oppressed/wronged.

So if someone has oppressed [done some wrong to] a Muslim; then [deeds such as] Salaah and Fasting of the one who oppressed will, afterall/at least, be given to his fellow [Muslim] brother. Though apparently [on the outside] one has committed oppression [to their fellow Muslim in the world], internally he has also been benevolent/a well-wisher for his community/nation [i.e. Muslim brethren by aiding them in passing on his own good deeds to them for their benefit in Akhirah]

And [on the other hand] if he has withheld a right of [oppressed/wronged] a Kafir then he has given his deeds to a strange house [ stranger, not of his own Muslim brethren]. So in this scenario, neither is it any benefit to yourself nor to him [the Kafir]. Because they are still to go into Jahannum [as they are forbidden the Garden due to them not having Imaan]"

So from the words of Mawlana [above] one understands that to take [wrongfully] the belongings/wealth of a Kafir is worse than taking from a Muslim.

wAllahu Aalam

n.b. text in [] is for elaboration not translation

[Sunni_Student786]

If sidi hamza yusuf had made that statement..you would have said..oh hes just appeasing them

...

Huh?

[Aqdas]

can someone check older versions of fatawa rashidiya because i have read the rashid ahmad gangohi claimed that it is OK to steal from hindus. but this is not in newer versions of the fatawa just old ones. i'm sorry i dont even have a reference. is this true?