Allamah Iqbal

[ahsanirfan]

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[abdul518ca]

^I have no clue.

[rehanali]

^I have no clue.

But I have heard that Allamah Iqbal was a Qadiyani, but later in his life he reverted to Islam, by sitting with Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri.

i don`t think that nonsense is right from abdul518ca, i really never heard that he was a qadiyani or that he reverted to islam. may Allah rest this great poet and thinker in peace. Aameen

[rehanali]

please be respectful brother.... he said that he 'heard' it... no need to refer it to as 'nonsene'......

apart from that... the claim that he was qadiyani cud easily be debunked... juist pick up a standard biography and u'll find that he was born to a 'respectable, strict, sunni, sufi father'..... if he became qadiyani later on.... that cud be another matter..

ma'as salam

ya i also think that i was little harsh in my reply, but i think that is not the place for gossiping. i think we do not spread everything that we hear

[abdul518ca]

Well, I didn't really "hear", it was in a book, a person in the Mosque reads out from it every Sunday. So I'm not to be blamed for making this up.

And I said, "he WAS a Qadiyani, but later became a Muslim".

Allamah Iqbal has also written articles on the greatness of Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri, so *maybe*, he wrote those because he was influenced by him.

“The Past five hundred years of Islamic history can not produce the like of Maulana Kashmiri” Allamah Iqbal.

But I think I'll still edit my first post.

[Muawiyah]

When Iqbal was on the advisory committee to the Raja of Kashmir and Qadiyanis were spreading their dawah there, Iqbal spoke or wrote articles in their favour, because Iqbal did not have the capacity to understand why the Ulama had risen against the Qadiyanis whom he initially considered to be a good sect of "rational muslims".

When he went to Lahore, Imam Anwar Shah sahib Kashmiri rahimahullah had also come to visit Lahore, so Iqbal went to meet him but Shah Sahib rahimahullah refused to see him or speak to him, so Iqbal said, "Whatever Shah Sahib is angry at me for, I'm ready to apologize from it." {or something similar}, so he made tawbah from defending Qadiyanis, but Shah Sahib said, "What of all the people that have been mislead by your statements?" {or something similar} So Iqbal took out ads in major newspapers saying that his previous opinion about Qadiyanism was wrong {or something similar} and then Shah Sahib rahimahullah met him.

[Ansari]

By the way, wasnt Iqbal a 'modern' muslim in the sense he justified that the muslim community of today tried to re-interpret the rules of islam?

[SamiribnZafarKhan]

By the way, wasnt Iqbal a 'modern' muslim in the sense he justified that the muslim community of today tried to re-interpret the rules of islam?

Nope, not at all. He was working towards deconstructing Western Thought and reconstructing Religious Thought in Islam from the muck of the 'modern' thought which dominated the Muslim minds and the masses.

well i dont know what he said outside of his poetry.... but from his poetry... he continually refers to the tradition of islam.. the islam and iman of the sahaba..... you shud read his shikwa jawab e shikwa..... amazing stuff... really rejuvinates u..... and i have heard favorable words about him from the ulama too.... but what i heard from one guy... a tanzeem islami guy... that iqbal made a 'mountain of mistake' by rejecting the mahdi.. this is what i want to confirm.... did iqbal reject the mahdi or not?

ma'as salam

You are probably referring to Sheikh Imran N. Hosein, I remember his words 'mountain of a mistake'. Well, Let me explain something interesting here.

First of all, in Tanzeem, one can have their own individual opinions as long as it doesn't transgress the Shari'ah, Alhamdullilah. It was the opinion of Sheikh Imran N. Hosein that Iqbal rejected the Mahdi; he had his proof.

However, the founder of Tanzeem-e-Islami, Dr. Israr Ahmad, a man who was influenced by Iqbal, said that his reference to the rejection of the Mahdi has nothing to do with Iqbal's own personal view on the Mahdi in the ahadith. Rather, it was a form of poetry that he was using which made it sound like he was rejecting the Mahdi, but he really wasn't.

For example, If I say in a poem:

"The Persian emperor awaits the news of the Mahdi,
while I stood under his throne,
polishing his shoes,
rejecting this absurd idea of the coming of a Savior."

So Dr. Israr Ahmad's conclusion was, you have to study his poetry carefully, because it can be misleading.

Allah Knows Best.

[umairel]

مہدي برحق

سب اپنے بنائے ہوئے زنداں ميں ہيں محبوس
خاور کے ثوابت ہوں کہ افرنگ کے سيار
پيران کليسا ہوں کہ شيخان حرم ہوں
نے جدت گفتار ہے، نے جدت کردار
ہيں اہل سياست کے وہي کہنہ خم و پيچ
شاعر اسي افلاس تخيل ميں گرفتار
دنيا کو ہے اس مہدي برحق کي ضرورت
ہو جس کي نگہ زلزلہ عالم افکار

This poem in zarb e kaleem give impression that his thought about mehdi is different.

[dr.ati]

Salam o alaikum

I once heard, a very long time ago, that Iqbal renounced belief in the Mahdi. Over time I forgot about it, but recently it was brought to my attention once again. I find this quite disturbing, that a man like Iqbal would reject belief in the Mahdi. Is there any basis to such a claim? Or is this just another hocus pocus? Does this renunciation move him out of the fold of Islam or not?


Ma'as Salam

Infact Iqbal did reject the belief of Mahdi later in his life ,calling it a Persian manipulation into Islam in his book "The reconstruction of Religious thought in Islam". Click on the "spirit of Muslim culture" in the this link and read the last two paragraphs. http://www.allamaiqbal.com/works/pro...tion/index.htm