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    Bro Muadh

    I haven't seen this book so I can't really comment on it, however from what you have mentioned, I don't really see what is so unique about the book.

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    This is a 4 volume Sharh of Mukhtasrul Qudoori by Maulana Thameerud-Deen Deobandi (Manchester, UK) and in my humble opinion this work doesn’t exist anywhere else in the Hanafi Madhab.
    What makes it so special?

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    Maulana’s commentary of Qudoori has the following distinct features:
    1) All Mas’ail (issues) in Qudoori have been serialised and categorised in terms of strength of Daleel in roughly the following order:
    a. If a Daleel exists from the Qur’aan it is mentioned
    b. If a Daleel exists from Saheeh Hadeeth from Sihah Sitta; it is mentioned
    c. If a Daleel exists from Saheeh Hadeeth from Non- Sihah Sitta (i.e. Dar Qutni, Baihiqi); it is mentioned
    d. If a Daleel exists from Musnaf Abi-Shaiba (RA) & Musnaf Abdur-Razzaq (RA) it is mentioned
    e. If a Daleel exists from sayings of the Taba’aeen/Taba Taba’aeen it is mentioned
    f. If a Daleel doesn’t exist from Qur’aan/Sunnah/Athar; none is mentioned
    Could I ask someone to enlighten me on the benefit of dividing the masa'il in this manner?

    It don't see any real benefit, in fact the following harms come to mind:

    1. Masa'il mentioned in the lower categories would be automatically assumed to be weaker than those in the higher ones, when in reality, the complete opposite could be true. Acceptance - not authenticity- of a hadith in Sahihain could be disputed, while a hadith in another book could be backed up by Ijma!

    2. If Moulana was not aware of a proof for a certain mas'alah, then he would have deleted the masa'alah or if he was aware of a "weaker proof" then the mas'alah would be relegated to a lower catergory, when in fact it should have been placed much higher up, thus giving the impression that it is "weak".

    3. It creates the impression that these are the proofs for these masa'il, thus acceptance or rejection of them would be based on these proofs.
    So instead of creating reliance in the mind of a student on the founders and Fuqaha of the madhab and mentioning the ahadith as backup for the masail, it instead creates the mindset that these masail are derived from these proofs. So if the proof here is weak, then the mas'alah is weak as well.

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    2) All system of weights have been converted into metric system
    This is found in most contemporary prints of al-Lubab, Sharh of al-Quduri.

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    3) All calculations are explained so anyone can just pick up a calculator & do them (like inheritance etc.)
    More clarification on this please.

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    4) Where two opinions exist in the Hanafi Madhab (i.e. Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) versus Sahebain (RA) Daleel for both are given)
    Every book of Hanafi fiqh that mentions proofs eg. Al-Hidayah, Fath Bab al-Inayah etc mentions proofs for conflicting views in the madhab.
    As I mentioned, I haven't seen the book, so I cannot "pass judgement" on it, however I don't agree with the system adopted for division of masa'il.

    And Allah Ta'ala knows best


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    But Br. Muadh you still havent told me the place to get it

    When I get it I might be able to show it off to Mufti Soofie and he might like it



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    Yes, please find out where we can get it from.

    I heard about it a few months back, from Mf. Zakariya Desai who met the author in India during Ramadhan.

    He did praise it excessively.


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    Mufti Saheb, the reason I am interested in it is because through our courses, many a times I asked the question "Why" and all I requested was some form of daleel, Ijma or hadith or alike.. and many times I couldnt come across these. (i.e not in the class time, I had to go to higher teachers to get these or do my own research for satisfaction)

    Since the Kitaab is written for the students of Ilm ud din, I think it might be beneficial for lazy people like me who look for shortcut everywhere

    I understand that I will once I start hitting Hidaya etc, but inshAllah if I exert now I might have to exert less later on..

    Actually I think Maulana Zakariya even had a copy of it. but I am spec of a student so I didnt get my hands on it



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    I don't think ml. Zakariyah has it. He asked me to get hold of it.

    Why don't you use Fath Bab al-Inayah of Mulla Ali al-Qari?
    It does the job well.
    There is a copy in the Darul Ifta.


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    inshallah I will .. Jazak Allah



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    Bro Muadh

    Just found out that the book is available in the bookshops here in South Africa.

    I did see it in one of the bookshops, but didn't give it a second glance, as it is an Urdu commentary and I am an avowed enemy of all urdu commentaries.
    They are extremly harmful for a student's arabic.

    I will get hold of a copy and review it inshallah.
    Jazakallah


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    Default Re: الشرح الثمیری علی المختصر القدوری (Hanafi Madhab with FULL references)!

    I'm in the US. Is there a bookstore that I can order this from? I'm a student at Dar ul Uloom at would like to have it.


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    Default Re: الشرح الثمیری علی المختصر القدوری (Hanafi Madhab with FULL references)!

    Salam

    I have had the Sharh for a while and Mashallah benefitted immensely from it, I would like to point out the following:

    - It is one of the easiest sharhs i have thus far seen, meaning it really explains out the masail in a very easy to understand way, this is the greatest benefit of the book i believe, as the author mentions, even a 'slow' student will be able to grasp all the masail by reading this sharh

    - The evidences are very useful, however the ahadith are not graded which might be an issue with narrations which 'some' ulema may have severely criticised

    - The author mentions some fiqhi principles when they arise and points them out for the reader

    - It would have been good if the author could have added some more 'fiqh' to his commentary, meaning it reads as more of a basic explanation with evidences and lacks any further referencing to quyud/dawabit/tarjih for masail which you may find in the books of scholar such as the author of the lubab or in the works of Dr Salah Abul Hajj

    - I would be interested in seeing his commentary on the hidayah, however the book 'ashraf al-hidayah' already exists which really breaks down and explains the masail of the hidayah in a very clear way, so another work on the same line would perhaps be a little unnecessary? but i guess we would have to see inshallah

    Inshallah i hope to make use of the quduri sharh in the near future for the editing and translation of a classical but very brief matn on fiqh which covers all the chapters of fiqh, using the same method of mawlana qasimi but with additional fiqhi points inshallah, may Allah give us tawfiq to do so

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    Unhappy Re: الشرح الثمیری علی المختصر القدوری (Hanafi Madhab with FULL references)!

    I'm beginning my study of Quduri next week at Dar ul Uloom. I'd love to have this book. Can anyone help this student obtain it? JazakumAllahu khair.

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