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    The Level of Tawheed Compiled by Abu Hibbaan & Abu Khuzaimah Ansaari

    The Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) said to Ibn Abbaas, “....When you ask for anything then ask Allaah only, if you need help then seek it from Allaah, and know that if all the people gathered and intended to harm you then they cannot do so except that which Allaah has destined for you....”

    Musnad Ahmad (1/293, 303, 307), Mishkaat (2/453), Tirmidhee (2/84), Saheeh Sunan Tirmidhee (2/609-610 no.2516), Mishkaat al-Masabeeh (no.5302), Musnad Abu Ya'ala (2/665), Mustadrak al-Haakim (3/541-542), Kitaab as-Sunnah Dhilaal al-Jannah Fee Takhreej as-Sunnah (no's 316-318), Hidaayah tur-Ruwaah Ilaa Takhreej Ahadeeth al-Masabeeh Wa Mishkaat (5/56 no.5232) of Haafidh Ibn Hajr, Takhreej by Allaamah Muhaddith al-Albaanee with checking of Shaikh Alee Hasan ibn Abdul Hameed al-Halabee, al-Mu'ajam al-Kabeer (11/11416, 11243) of Imaam Tabaraanee, al-Mukhtarah (59/199/1) and (62/199/2) of Haafidh Dhiyaa, Ibn as-Sunnee in al-Amal al-Yaum Wal-Laylah (1/136 no.419), ash-Sharee'ah (p.198) of Imaam Aa'jurree and Abu Nuaym in Hilyah (1/314).

    Imaam Tirmidhee said the hadeeth is Hasan-Saheeh. Imaam al-Albaanee also authenticated it.

    The main narrators in the chain of this hadeeth are all authentic.

    (1) Abu Khaleepha Jamhee. Imaam Dhahabee said, Thiqah (trustworthy), Muhaddith, Katheer al-hadeeth (narrated many hadeeth) and the learned Imaam. (Tadhkirratul-Huffaadh (2/218).

    (2) Abu Waleed Tayaalisee. He is a major narrator of the saheehs. Imaam Ibn Hajr said, "al-Haafidh and al-Hujjah." Ejlee said, "Thiqah and Thabt. (the Affirmed Trustworthy)." Abu Haatim said, "Imaam and Thiqah." and Allaamah ibn Sa'ad said, "Thiqah, Thabt, and Hujjah faqeeh and the famous Imaam." (Tahdheeb ut-Tahdheeb (11/45-46).

    (3) Laith ibn Sa'ad. Thiqah, Thabt, Faqeeh and the famous Imaam. (Taqreeb ut-Tahdheeb (p.311).

    (4) Qais ibn Hajaaj. Yoonus said “righteous”. (Tahdheeb (8/48), Taqreeb (p.307).)

    5) Hansh Sana'anee.
    Abu Zur'ah, Ejlee, Ya'qoob ibn Sufyaan and Ibn Hibbaan all said he is trustworthy. (Tahdheeb ut-Tahdheeb (3/58).

    Thiqatun-Thabt (The Affirmed Trustworthy) When a praiseworthy statement is composed of two statements like, Thiqatun-Thiqah, or Thiqatun-Thabt, Thabt Hujjah or Thiqatun Dhaabit and so on, then this is from the third level of praiseworthy statements (Maraatib at-Ta’deel) (See Allaamah Abdul-Muhsin al-Abbaad’s and Abdul-Kareem Murad’s book, Min Ateeb al-Minh Fee Ilm al-Mastalah (pg.61-62) and other general books of Mastalah)


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    “....When you ask for anything then ask Allaah only, if you need help then seek it from Allaah, and know that if all the people gathered and intended to harm you then they cannot do so except that which Allaah has destined for you....”



    Please post the Arabic for this hadith.

    I have not seen this marfu' hadith of Ibn Abbas ra translated in this way before.

    jazakumallah khair
    Imam al-Zarqani said in his book Manahil al-Irfan: 'Our Scholars agreed that if a word carries 99 aspects of disbelief and one aspect of faith, it must be interpreted according to the best of meanings, which is faith'.

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    If I ask someone for a pen when I forget my own, am I going against this hadith?

    Or have you decided by yourself what this hadith means?


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    is it asking for help?


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    To call on others besides Allaah Ta`ala is Shirk

    “And the places of worship are only for Allaah, so pray not unto anyone along with Allaah. And when the slave of Allaah stood up in prayer to Him, they crowded on him, almost stifling.' Say (unto them, O Muhammad -sallAllaahu alayhi wasallam): ‘I pray unto Allaah only, and ascribe unto Him no partner.” [Surah Jinn, 18-20]

    When a person turns out to be pious and has a devout and religious appearance, others regard him to be someone very great – a Ghoas or Kutub (titles of high respect). They think that he is the one who gives whoever he wishes whatever he wishes. They refer to him for all their needs and wants. It is the Fardh duty of this person to warn and inform his ignorant ‘fans’ regarding what is right and wrong and divert them onto the path or rectitude. They should refer only to Allaah Rabbul Izzat for their needs and wants. Only He can fulfil all desires. He should discourage them from any shirki practice and make it clear that he does not carry out any practice of shirk.

    It should be understood that practices like standing in front of someone with hands folded (as in Salaat) or to call out to them (as one calls out to Allaah) = or to recite their names as one makes Thikr, are all practices of shirk because these are acts of devotion which Allaah Ta`ala has made exclusive to Himself. There should be no partnership in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tilmeedh View Post


    If I ask someone for a pen when I forget my own, am I going against this hadith?

    Or have you decided by yourself what this hadith means?
    or if I ask my wife for some biryani?
    Imam al-Zarqani said in his book Manahil al-Irfan: 'Our Scholars agreed that if a word carries 99 aspects of disbelief and one aspect of faith, it must be interpreted according to the best of meanings, which is faith'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faqir View Post
    or if I ask my wife for some biryani?
    How dare you! lol
    I didnt know u got married though

    Wassalaam

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamsus2010 View Post
    is it asking for help?
    An old man, fingers gnarled, asks his son to open his bottle of pills. Do you like this one better?

    Akhi, we're not playing word games here, insha Allah.

    There are certain times, where asking others might be NECESSARY for some.
    Also, the second word used is استعانة. The pencil example that upset you has to do with the implications of this word.
    The sunni understanding is that Allah is the Mani' and Mu'ti. Thus, the causes as well as the effects are directly willed by Allah.

    Therefore, relying on a pill to cure your headache can be shirk, without the correct understanding.
    Asking someone to help you with anything can be shirk, without the correct understanding.
    Even prostrating toward the ka'ba can be shirk, without the correct understanding.

    By the way, I think you all need to read what Molana Thanvi has to say regarding this topic. Very fair and balanced, indeed.
    To those concerned: please do that, before putting on your qadi's robe next time, ready to stamp some takfir fatwas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by faqir View Post


    “....When you ask for anything then ask Allaah only, if you need help then seek it from Allaah, and know that if all the people gathered and intended to harm you then they cannot do so except that which Allaah has destined for you....”



    Please post the Arabic for this hadith.

    I have not seen this marfu' hadith of Ibn Abbas ra translated in this way before.

    jazakumallah khair
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    حدثنا عبد الله حدثني أبي حدثنا يونس حدثنا ليث عن قيس بن الحجاج عن حنش الصنعاني عن عبد الله بن عباس أنه حدثه أنه:
    -ركب خلف رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يوما فقال له رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: يا غلام إني معلمك كلمات احفظ الله يحفظك احفظ الله تجده تجاهك وإذا سألت فلتسأل الله وإذا استعنت فاستعن بالله واعلم أن الأمة لو اجتمعوا على أن ينفعوك لم ينفعوك إلا بشيء قد كتبه الله لك ولو اجتمعوا على أن يضروك لم يضروك إلا بشيء قد كتبه الله عليك رفعت الأقلام وجفت الصحف.

    its musnad ahmad.

    i was unable to find this hadeeth in tirmidhi. i will try to forward this query to the author of this article.
    Last edited by Salafi; 22-04-2007 at 04:43 PM.


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    The point brother Faqir mentioned was specifically for the word "ONLY" . So search for the hadeeth saying something like..

    وإذا سألت فلتسأل الله فقط وإذا استعنت فاستعن بالله فقط




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