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    Wa asalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh

    I'd like to know, wether it is possible to link salaat maghreb and ischaa together?

    I ask for this, cos I cant really keep my eyes open, for the time of salaat ischaa - the studies gives me a hard time..

    Wa asalaam


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    Wa 'alaikumus Salam Wa Rahmathullah Wa Barakathuhu

    [Edit: The thread has been moved to the Hanafi Q&A section, Al-Hamdulillah Masha Allah.]

    Next time brother, please post your questions like these (related directly to Fiqh etc) in the Hanafi Q&A section of the forum, and Insha Allah, it will get answered. The Hanafi school holds that you cannot combine prayers together (out of their time) except at Arafat and Muzdalifa (during pilgrimage). The answer to your question is posted below:

    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...ID=1295&CATE=4

    Why Don't Hanafis Combine Prayers, When There Are Authentic Hadiths About It?

    Answered by Shaykh Abdurrahman ibn Yusuf Mangera

    Why don't Hanafis combine prayers, when there are authentic hadiths about it?

    Assalamu alaykum

    In the Name of Allah the Inspirer of truth.

    This issue is a major one between the fiqhi schools. The Hanafis have judged all the narrations on this issue to be based on the method of "apparent combining" [Jam' al-Suri] not "real combining" [jam' al-Haqiqi]. What this means is that since we are told to make every prayer on time, and there are hadiths of Ibn Mas'ud which clarify that the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wassalam never combined the prayers together [by taking a prayer out of its time] except in 'Arafa and Muzdalifa during the pilgrimage.

    The following, which is an excerpt the from the Fiqh al-Imam [third edition] currently under publication, may be useful in understanding the hadiths on this issue:

    >From the Chapter on "Combing Two Prayers"

    3. 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud relates:

    I never observed the Messenger of Allah perform any prayer out of its time except at Muzdalifa. He combined Maghrib and 'Isha at Muzdalifa (Sahih al-Bukhari 1:227, Sahih Muslim 1:417, Sharh Ma'ani 'l-athar 1:164).

    4. Another narration of Ibn Mas'ud states:

    The Messenger of Allah combined two prayers whilst on a journey. He would combine Maghrib and 'Isha by delaying Maghrib until just before its expiry time, and performing 'Isha immediately as its time entered (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba 2:458).

    5. 'A'isha narrates:

    The Messenger of Allah e, whilst on a journey, would delay Zuhr and perform 'Asr early and would delay Maghrib and perform 'Isha early [i.e. perform each prayer in its own time] (Sharh Ma'ani 'l-athar 1:164, Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba 2:457).

    6. Ibn 'Abbas narrates:

    I performed eight rak'ats together [four of Zuhr and four of 'Asr] and seven rak'ats together [three of Maghrib and four of 'Isha] with the Messenger of Allah e. [One of the narrators says,] "I asked Abu 'l-Sha'tha', 'I assume he delayed Zuhr [to the end of its time] and performed 'Asr as soon as it entered, and delayed Maghrib [likewise] and performed 'Isha early.' He replied, 'I also think the same'" (Sahih Muslim 1:246, Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba 2: 456).

    This hadith of Sahih Muslim is very clear about the exact description of combining two prayers. The method described by the narrator is jam' al-suri.

    7. Imam Abu Dawud has transmitted the following:

    The muezzin of 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar informed him it was time for prayer. Ibn 'Umar t instructed him to continue on the journey. When the red of sunset [shafq ahmar] had nearly disappeared, he got of from his mount and performed Maghrib, then he waited until the red had completely disappeared and performed Isha. He then said, "Whenever the Messenger of Allah e was in a hurry for some reason, he would do just as I have done" (Sunan Abi Dawud 1:178).

    As we can see, the method of combining mentioned in the above hadiths is none other than that of jam' al-suri. It is an agreed upon method which nobody has any argument with. How can there be an objection to two prayers being performed together in a way that does not cause them to be performed either before their stipulated time or after it? Undoubtedly, this is the safest method of combining two prayers, and would be the most suitable way to explain the hadiths on combining.

    It is also common knowledge that the Fajr prayer should not to be performed before its time or intentionally delayed beyond it. Similarly, other prayers should not be performed out of their stipulated times either, especially not while considering it to be sunna. This indicates that the sunna method of combining two prayers is jam' al-suri, as has also been substantiated through the Qur'an and hadiths. This is the Hanafi opinion in this issue.

    If it was permissible to practice jam' al-haqiqi in the event of travel or illness, etc., then why is it confined to some prayers only? Why is it not permissible to perform all the prayers of the day together in the morning before departing on a journey? The reason for this is quite simple. The practice of combining mentioned in the hadiths is not to be taken as jam al-haqiqi, but as jam al-suri wherein each prayer remains in its own time, but are performed one after another....

    And Allah knows best.

    Abdurrahman ibn Yusuf
    Wasalam.
    Last edited by Bin Abd Al-Matin; 03-05-2007 at 12:13 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Encaphlon View Post
    I ask for this, cos I cant really keep my eyes open, for the time of salaat ischaa - the studies gives me a hard time..
    People modify their sleeping habits around what is important to them. Just find something to do that keeps you up and occupied between maghrib and `isha, like exercising, cooking (depending on where you live), a routine act of worship like dhikr, etc. That usually resolves the problem.
    "Among the qualities of humanness, get rid of every quality
    incompatible with your slavehood so you can answer
    when Allah calls and be near His presence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encaphlon View Post
    Wa asalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh

    I'd like to know, wether it is possible to link salaat maghreb and ischaa together?

    I ask for this, cos I cant really keep my eyes open, for the time of salaat ischaa - the studies gives me a hard time..

    Wa asalaam
    As-Salaam Alaykum wa rahmatualli wa barakatu,

    You may perform Isha after the redness in the sky disappears (about 55 mins after maghrib). This is a valid opinion in the Hanafi school. Use islamicfinder to locate the exact time when this happens. If you actually wish to use this option get back to me and I'll walk you through.

    Otherwise, you may follow the default position (which is that Isha comes in after the whiteness disappears). This is the best position to follow. Thus, you should encourage yourself to follow this opinion and struggle, for there is great reward in struggling for Allah (swt)'s sake.

    Wa Alaykum as-Salaam
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