2 rakat Nafila before the Fard of Magrib

[ozgurislam]

As salamu aleykum,

Why is it not allowed to pray 2 rakat nafila before the Fard of Magrib in the Hanafi Madhab as there are Sahih hadiths tell us to do so like that between every azan and iqamah there is a prayer and others hadiths which are specifically mentioning a nafila prayer before Magrib.

Someone has a article about this?

Was salaam

[mospike]

Hadhrat Ta'oos reports that Hadhrat Ibn Umar (Radhiallahu anhu) was asked about the two rakah's before maghrib. He said, 'I have not seen anyone at the time of Rasulullah sallallaahou alaihe wassallam read them.' Abu Daood vol. 1 page 182

this is what i found in my Hanfi text book

Someone please tell us what is written in Fiqh al Imam on this issue please

[Colonel_Hardstone]

W-Salam Brother,

It is the understanding of scholars that this is NOT a Moakidda Sunnah...

Al-Bukhari records, from 'Abdullah ibn Mughaffal, that the Prophet said: "Pray before maghrib, pray before maghrib," and after saying it a third time, he said: "For whoever wishes to do so," not wanting the people to take it as a sunnah. Ibn Hibban records that the Prophet prayed two rak'at before maghrib prayer.

Muslim records that Ibn 'Abbas said: "We would pray two rak'at before maghrib, and the Prophet would see us but he would not order us to do so, nor would he prohibit us."

Ibn Hajar says in Fath al-Bari: "All of the evidence points to the fact that it is preferred to say these two rak'at quickly like the two rak'at before the salatul fajr."

Also read:
http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/sunfardh.htm

As salamu aleykum,

Why is it not allowed to pray 2 rakat nafila before the Fard of Magrib in the Hanafi Madhab as there are Sahih hadiths tell us to do so like that between every azan and iqamah there is a prayer and others hadiths which are specifically mentioning a nafila prayer before Magrib.

Someone has a article about this?

Was salaam

[ozgurislam]

Ok but why is it Makruh (if it is said; For whoever wishes to do so i.e. praying 2 rakat before Magrib) in Hanafi Madhab?

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Asslamo Allaikum,

Here is the FULL text from Hidaya & no mention of Salah before Maghrib being Makrooh anywhere???


( وَأَرْبَعٌ قَبْلَ الظُّهْرِ ، وَبَعْدَهَا رَكْعَتَانِ ، وَأَرْبَعٌ قَبْلَ الْعَصْرِ ، وَإِنْ شَاءَ رَكْعَتَيْنِ وَرَكْعَتَانِ بَعْدَ الْمَغْرِبِ ، وَأَرْبَعٌ قَبْلَ الْعِشَاءِ ، وَأَرْبَعٌ بَعْدَهَا ، وَإِنْ شَاءَ رَكْعَتَيْنِ ) وَالْأَصْلُ فِيهِ قَوْلُهُ عَلَيْهِ الصَّلَاةُ وَالسَّلَامُ " { مَنْ ثَابَرَ عَلَى ثِنْتَيْ عَشْرَةَ رَكْعَةً فِي الْيَوْمِ وَاللَّيْلَةِ بَنَى اللَّهُ لَهُ بَيْتًا فِي الْجَنَّةِ } " وَفَسَّرَ عَلَى نَحْوِ مَا ذَكَرَ فِي الْكِتَابِ ، غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ لَمْ يَذْكُرْ الْأَرْبَعَ قَبْلَ الْعَصْرِ فَلِهَذَا سَمَّاهُ فِي الْأَصْلِ حَسَنًا وَخَيَّرَ لِاخْتِلَافِ الْآثَارِ ، وَالْأَفْضَلُ هُوَ الْأَرْبَعُ وَلَمْ يَذْكُرْ الْأَرْبَعَ قَبْلَ الْعِشَاءِ فَلِهَذَا كَانَ مُسْتَحَبًّا لِعَدَمِ الْمُوَاظَبَةِ ، وَذَكَرَ فِيهِ رَكْعَتَيْنِ بَعْدَ الْعِشَاءِ ، وَفِي غَيْرِهِ ذَكَرَ الْأَرْبَعَ فَلِهَذَا خُيِّرَ ، إلَّا أَنَّ الْأَرْبَعَ أَفْضَلُ خُصُوصًا عِنْدَ أَبِي حَنِيفَةَ رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ عَلَى مَا عُرِفَ مِنْ مَذْهَبِهِ ، وَالْأَرْبَعُ قَبْلَ الظُّهْرِ بِتَسْلِيمَةٍ وَاحِدَةٍ عِنْدَنَا ، كَذَا قَالَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ، وَفِيهِ خِلَافُ الشَّافِعِيِّ

Ok but why is it Makruh (if it is said; For whoever wishes to do so i.e. praying 2 rakat before Magrib) in Hanafi Madhab?

[ozgurislam]

It has been mentioned in other kitaabs that it is so.

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Asslamo Allaikum,

Got your message Habibi...Jazakulah

Back to the subject!

Hidaya doesn't mention that its Makrooh it so that's interesting isn't it?

It has been mentioned in other kitaabs that it is so.

[ozgurislam]

i mean other kitaabs and fatwa books say its makruh

[Ali al-Hanafi]

It may be because according to Hanafis, Maghrib Prayer should be started very quickly after Aadhan (as is narrated in a hadith), whcih leaves no time for the two rak'aats:

"The hastening of Maghrib is recommended, because delaying it is dissaproved (makruh) insofar as there is a similarity in it to the act of the Jews. The Prophet (God bless him and grant him peace) said, 'My Ummah will continue to attain blessings as long as they hasten to offer the evening prayer and delay the night prayer' " (Hidayah, Eng. trans. of Dr Imran Nyazee, page 86)