Why...

[Yahya]

I don't normally enter into Murabitun discussions because I don't really know much about their group. But I have a couple of things to say here:

1- Paper Money is not Haram, although it is sub-optimal.

2- Since many people seem to have a desire to bring back gold and silver currency, what is stopping us?

I mean, why do we need the entire Ummah to agree on something before we do it. Why can't the Muslims in a given town just decide to trade amongst themselves in silver coins? Why couldn't they then go to the local stores and arrange for the stores to accept them as well?

In my hometown, the Jews have their own paper money which is accepted in most of the stores in their whole section of town. If they can do it, we can do it.

[sahih-baba]

salam

today any muslim who speaks well becomes a shaykh.
this is the tragedy.

and when ppl ask what are the shaykh's qualifications in deen, no answers are given, just abuses and insults are thrown and "you are attacking the shaykh" nonsense.

today we have many shaykhs: shaykh x , y and z.....none of whom have bothered to sit with the ulema for a good number of years and then get a public ijaza from them!

the shaykh can say sing many lovely tunes, but the question is, is he a scholar?

if he is, then prove it, if you are truthful.

wassalam

[umm_madina]

Assalamualikum brother Ansari_uk,

Insha-Allah we all will just get stronger by the day by Allah's power and wisdom, through his Prophet (saw).

Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the Torah and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honor him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is those who will prosper." [Sûrah al-A`râf: 156-157]

wa'salam

[umm_madina]

Assalamualikum,

Riba is the cause of oppression. Riba constitutes various forms of economic exploitation and oppression made possible through the corruption of the free and fair market.

The slave master has ruled the world in stages:

Rule Britannia - There was no air power as yet, you needed military control. In 1940 Britain had control of the sea. Britain used gold coins (sterling pound). with the kalima (in arabic) minted on it. The Muslims had placed it there when Britain had turned to us for hlep. At the heart of which Britain became the ruling state, money was also the focus.

Britain was the ruling state and its money lender. The khalifa in Istanbul started borrowing money on interest. As they were unable to pay back the debt, they were then blackmailed. They wanted us to abandon Jizya and adh-dhimmah.

At the end of the 17 century the Bank of England was created, they used the sterling pound (a gold coin) and then later on started issuing receipts for money. Buying something in recept was given instead of the gold and this was the origin of today's paper money.

When the Bank of England print a receipt it was now called currency and its weight was of gold, but if Pakistan printed the same thing it wold not have the same weight and hence the introduction of the hard currency.

The banker realised if he had 100 ounces of gold and he is issuing receipts he can only have 100 receipts - A banker's cheque. Instead of issuing 100 chequest, 100 bankdreafs, 100 currency, he issued 200. (he made 100 ounces of gold out of "thin air" - he created money out of nothing). It became halal so long as people were prepared to accept the paper money.

Britain reinforced its status as the ruling state of the world through the creation of the sterling pound in the form of currency........

Please see: Jerusaleum In the Quran by Moulana Imran Hosein

[Writer]

Assalamualikum,

I am really tired of seeing brothers of the Murabitun, being picked on.
Isn't there a forum for Murabitun members, where others who are seriously interested in understanding and joining can particpate?

wa'salam

1. Who are the Murabitun?

2. Why are they fighting?

3. Who is fighting them?

4. And why am i NOT included in this fight?

[umm_madina]

1. Who are the Murabitun?

2. Why are they fighting?

3. Who is fighting them?

4. And why am i NOT included in this fight?

Assalamualikum,

Ignore my post. If the moderators don't see a problem, then I'll leave it up to Allah to be the Most Just Judge of all......

The issue with the Niqab is one thing, but THAT is not ALL the Shaikh has said, as is, not the beginning and the ending of all he taught.

Allahu Alaam
wa'salam

[MohammadMufti]

Asalamu Alaikum

I was reading a biography of Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal (rahimullah) and it mentions:

Al Masalahah Al Mursalah:
...
It is known as general, because it is not tied to any evidence which would indicate that it is valid or invalid. Examples of this would include the benefit for whose attainment the Companions (RA) legislated the use of prisons, or the minting of coins, or other benefits which necessities, needs or advances dictated, and for which no laws had been legislated.

So if coins being minted was a new idea, in light of the fact that there had been no evidence for or against it, than if the Muslims can derive benefit from paper or electronic 'money', than wouldn't it be allowed? Is there reason why it shouldn't be?

[sahih-baba]

Assalamualikum,

Ignore my post. If the moderators don't see a problem, then I'll leave it up to Allah to be the Most Just Judge of all......

The issue with the Niqab is one thing, but THAT is not ALL the Shaikh has said, as is, not the beginning and the ending of all he taught.

Allahu Alaam
wa'salam

this issue of niqab is one thing, 'amal of madina is another which is controversial and unorthodox, meaning nothing to do with the maliki/shafi'i/hanafi/hanbali positions.

i shall give an example:
imam malik disapproved of group dhikr.

so, if you say 'amal is the only way forward, then you must give up group dhikr!

wassalam

[laughinglion]

this issue of niqab is one thing, 'amal of madina is another which is controversial and unorthodox, meaning nothing to do with the maliki/shafi'i/hanafi/hanbali positions.

i shall give an example:
imam malik disapproved of group dhikr.

so, if you say 'amal is the only way forward, then you must give up group dhikr!

wassalam

`Amal (action) is not necessarily restricted by books, if you feel that is the case you have completely missed the point.

It is reported that Imam Malik also disliked people fasting 6 days of Shawwal, after ramadhan, and making du'a with ones hands raised. As I said `amal is not restricted by books and statements, it is guided by Qur'an and sunnah

[sahih-baba]

`Amal (action) is not necessarily restricted by books, if you feel that is the case you have completely missed the point.

It is reported that Imam Malik also disliked people fasting 6 days of Shawwal, after ramadhan, and making du'a with ones hands raised. As I said `amal is not restricted by books and statements, it is guided by Qur'an and sunnah

salam
it seems the majority of muslims from the salaf to our times have missed that point...until the murabitun?

somehow i don't feel so bad missing the point.
wassalam