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    What are the opinions of the four schools of law about having something like a nasheed or poetry or rap or tilawat al Quran at an open microphone event with sisters performing on a stage in front of ghayr mahram men?

    Assume that they are performing with proper hijab and exercising the proper gender etiquette...

    What if the brothers and sisters are separated by a barrier and the sister's are speaking into a microphone but none of the brothers can see them....


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    thoughts?


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    thats a good question. i want to know the answers and opinions as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnzaman View Post
    What are the opinions of the four schools of law about having something like a nasheed or poetry or rap or tilawat al Quran at an open microphone event with sisters performing on a stage in front of ghayr mahram men?

    Assume that they are performing with proper hijab and exercising the proper gender etiquette...

    What if the brothers and sisters are separated by a barrier and the sister's are speaking into a microphone but none of the brothers can see them....

    In the majority Hanafi opinion, the female's voice is not considered 'awrah. However, in regards to your question, having such an event would be impermissible, regardless if it is nasheed, poetry, or tilaawatul-Qur'aan that is being recited. Please reference the below fatwa by Mufti Adam ibn Adam al-Kawthari (Taken from SunniPath). I'ved bolded the relevant points.

    Also, bear in mind that this is in regards to the Hanafi position. Allahu 'alam as to the ruling in the other 3 schools. Maybe some of our Shafi'i, Hanbali, and Maliki brothers/sisters can shed some light...


    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...D=1321&CATE=88



    In the name of Allah, most Compassionate, most Merciful

    Allah Almighty has created this natural attraction and charm in the voice of a female, that it plays a vital role in provoking and inducing the sexual appetite, desire and passion of a man.

    This is a reality which can not be denied. Even the psychologists are in agreement with this fact. Many Psychologists have stressed that the voice of a individual has a great say in arousing sexual desires.

    This is the reason why Allah most High commanded the wives of the blessed Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) especially, and all Muslim women in general, to abstain from conversing with non-Mahram men in a soft and sweat tone.

    Allah says in Sura al-Ahzab:

    O wives of the Prophet! You are not like other women, if you are God - fearing. So do not be soft in speech. Lest in whose heart is disease should be moved with desire (V:32).

    This verse indicates that men and women should not talk unnecessarily and when they do so, both the content and manner of conversation must be appropriate, and free of anything inciting.

    Imam Abu Abd Allah al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) writes in his famous exegesis of the Qur'an, al-Jami li Ahkam al-Qur'an:

    "It was a custom of Arab women in the days of ignorance (Jahiliyya) to speak to men in a soft and inciting way. This was prohibited by this verse of the Qur'an."

    It has been narrated from some of the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) that, after the revelation of the above mentioned verse, when the need arose for them to converse with a non - Mahram male, they would do so by placing their hands over their mouths. This was to prevent any softness or incitement in their voices. (Hadith recorded by al-Darqutni in his Sunan with a authentic chain of narrators).

    The great Hanafi scholar Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas says in 'Ahkam al-Qur'an' (his excellent work on the verses of the Qur'an relating to law):

    "This verse (above-mentioned) indicates the impermissibility of women raising their voices in the presence of non-Mahram males, as this may lead to Fitna. This is why our (Hanafi) scholars have declared the reciting of Adhan for women as Makruh, as she will need to louder her voice, which is not permissible" (Vol:5, P:229).

    He further says:

    "Allah has prohibited women from striking their feet when He says: "And they (women) shall not strike their feet so that there be known what they hide from their adornment"(24:31). So if they are prohibited from making non-Mahram hear the sound of their footwear, then the prohibition of raising the voice in a inciting way will be from a greater extent".

    Allama Murtadha al-Zabeedi, the great Hanafi, Sufi and linguistic says in his commentary of the 'Ihya' of Imam al-Ghazali, 'Ithaf al-Sadat al-Muttaqin':

    "A group of Scholars have distinguished between the singing of males and females. Listening to the singing of non-Mahram women has been declared by them as Haram, and the listening to the singing of Mahram women is deferred upon. Qadi Abu Tayyib al-Tabari said: If the singer is a non-Mahram female, then it will not be permissible for men to listen to her. This ruling will apply, regardless of whether the woman is with or without Hijab" (Vol:6, P:501).

    The above-mentioned is clear in determining that, one should avoid listening to the voice of a female unnecessarily. If there is a need to converse with them then, it should be done in the manner stated previously.

    Is the voice of a female part of her Awra?

    As far as the female voice is concerned, according to the preferred opinion in the Hanafi school, it is not considered as part of Awra. However, if there is a fear of Fitna then, the female should not raise it and the male should avoid listening to it.

    One of the great Hanafi scholars Ibn Humam (Allah have mercy on him) says in his 'Fath al-Qadir', quoting from 'al-Nawazil':

    "The melodious voice of a female and her singing will be considered as Awra. This is the reason why it is better for her to learn the Qur'an from a female teacher rather than a male who is blind, as her recitation in tune is Awra. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: " The reciting of Tasbih is for men and clapping is for women".( Meaning if the Imam makes a mistake in Salat , the males will invite his attention by reciting Subhan Allah and women, by clapping their hands, m). [Fath al-Qadir, V:1, p:260).

    Ibn Abidin, after quoting the same from al-Nawazil writes in his 'Hashiya':

    "It is permissible for women to converse with non-Mahram men at the time of need (and visa versa, m). However, what is not permissible is that they stretch, soften and raise their voice in a melodious way" (Vol:1, P:406).

    From the contemporary scholars, Dr. Wahaba al-Zuhayli from Damascus writes in his famous 'al-Fiqh al-Islami wa Adillatuhu:

    "It is Haram (unlawful) to listen to the voice of a female, which is in a melodious and musical tone, even if it is by reciting Qur'an
    " (Vol:1, P755).

    In conclusion, it is evident that a male should avoid listening to the Nasheed and Na'at of non-Mahram females. Similarly it is necessary that the females do not sing in front of non-Mahram men, whether in their presence or by recording their voices and releasing albums.

    And Allah knows best

    Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari


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    In Turkey ,Bosnia ,Albania ,Macedonia and Bulgaria the women are hanafis and you can find even in the mosque's and other place's under islamic supervision the women singing Nasheed's in front of a mixed public.It seem's that hanafi's of the subcontinent are a totally different mazhab of the hanafi's of the Balkan.This is very stange.But whoever know the world of the Balkan Hanafi's see that they are more liberal in many question's than the subcontinent brother's.Maybe there are some different's in forma menti's and historical difference's. Hassan Omar Roberto Minichini


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Minichini View Post
    In Turkey ,Bosnia ,Albania ,Macedonia and Bulgaria the women are hanafis and you can find even in the mosque's and other place's under islamic supervision the women singing Nasheed's in front of a mixed public.It seem's that hanafi's of the subcontinent are a totally different mazhab of the hanafi's of the Balkan.This is very stange.But whoever know the world of the Balkan Hanafi's see that they are more liberal in many question's than the subcontinent brother's.Maybe there are some different's in forma menti's and historical difference's. Hassan Omar Roberto Minichini


    Sometimes it will take a while for some practices to be called off especially after the religion studies was oppressed during the communist rules and/or after independence. The same thing goes to any other countries, some were late in bouncing back. You'll see similar practices also in ex-Russian countries. Sometimes after independence, it will take 40 years or more for people to see hijab as a norm in Muslim countries. Therefore, I believe, it is not because of different Hanafi interpretations but more on cultural and how religion is viewed in that area.



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    As Salaam Alaykum

    I am sure you aware my Brother that Religion was massively Suppressed in communist countries, and sure you are aware of Atturk and his policies.


    I remember hearing a talk by Shaykh Tamim Adnani Mujahid(ra) He told a very moving story of how he went to Bulgaria, as he was in his hotel he was informed that someone had come to see him. So anyways this oldman came to his room he asked if the Shaykh had a copy of the Quran, and if he could see it, the shaykh said yes the Oldman took the Quran looked at the pages and started weeping uncontrollably he had not seen the Quran in its original arabic since child hood. It had been his life long dream to see a copy of it. Whilst our Qurans remain on our shelves completely neglected.

    May Allah give us the tawfiq to be grateful for the blessings he has provided ameen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Minichini View Post
    Hassan Omar Roberto Minichini


    Sorry that this is off-topic, but your name caught my attention. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from- its an interesting name .



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    Actually,turkish hanafi-ism is quite strict.

    If you visit the secular areas of Turkey, you don't get a good idea of
    the traditional islam.

    But goto istanbul, and speak to the ulema in Faatih and places like Eyup!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Abd Al-Matin View Post


    Sorry that this is off-topic, but your name caught my attention. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from- its an interesting name .

    I'm from Italy.


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