Allah has loins? Problems! Problems!

**Colonel_Hardstone** · 28-12-2007, 10:12 PM

**al_Zayn** · 28-12-2007, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Muadh_Khan

One wonders why the Salafis have left it out, maybe because they will fall in their own mess for exploiting literalism to another level.

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**fahid** · 29-12-2007, 05:31 AM

As Salamu Alaikum

Why does Dar-us-Salaam continue tampering with Islamic works? For example you have even hadith omissions in the Riyadh ul-Saliheen...

**mosa707** · 29-12-2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by fahid

As Salamu Alaikum

Why does Dar-us-Salaam continue tampering with Islamic works? For example you have even hadith omissions in the Riyadh ul-Saliheen...

Walaikum salam
Yet salafis go around saying Darussalam produces the most authentic islamic book.

Bro, may I know which hadith is omitted? jazakallah Khair

**al_Zayn** · 29-12-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by mosa707

Walaikum salam
Yet salafis go around saying Darussalam produces the most authentic islamic book.

Bro, may I know which hadith is omitted? jazakallah Khair

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...ID=154&CATE=91

http://www.livingislam.org/trs_e.html

check these out.

**Husain** · 29-12-2007, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zaynul8njmb2

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...ID=154&CATE=91

http://www.livingislam.org/trs_e.html

check these out.

They don't mentioned omission of ahadith.

**al_Zayn** · 29-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by soofi_saheb

They don't mentioned omission of ahadith.

Mufti Saheb, with all due respect, i don't recall my self saying they omitted any Ahadith.

i posted these articles because Br. Fahid had said "Why does Dar-us-Salaam continue tampering with Islamic works" and as Br. Mosa wanted to see what Br Fahid was on about hence i posted these articles..so he can read himself if any Hadith was omitted or any tampering took place, thus what led me to say "check these out" and not "check these out because they [Dar-us-Salaam] omitted alot of Ahadiths".

Khair Insha-Allah, i posted it to show everyone so they may gain benefit from it and abstain from material that lacks adab. not that i said they omitted Ahadith, as i believe that was another Brother's assumption.

anyway, all good.

**not known** · 29-12-2007, 06:21 PM

there were few blind people....An elephant was brought infront of them..

one of them caught its tail, one its trunk, one felt its body, one caught his leg..
Now they were asked to tell about elephant.

The one who caught its tail said its like rope.
one who caught its trunk said its like a pipe,
one who felt its body said its round.
one who caught its leg said its like pillar.

i think this is what happening with muslims today...

as Makki al Hijazi said " we discussed about authenticity of hadith and some people rejected hadith, we discuss about madhabs people will reject islam "
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there were few blind people....An elephant was brought infront of them..

one of them caught its tail, one its trunk, one felt its body, one caught his leg..
Now they were asked to tell about elephant.

The one who caught its tail said its like rope.
one who caught its trunk said its like a pipe,
one who felt its body said its round.
one who caught its leg said its like pillar.

i think this is what happening with muslims today...

as Makki al Hijazi said " we discussed about authenticity of hadith and some people rejected hadith, we discuss about madhabs people will reject islam "
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the discussion about madhab of imam hambal ?

do u people know what imam hambal(rah) is called with respect " If imam hambal would not be there, islam would not remain on earth ". this was title given to abu bakr (rz).

why ?

during his time there was a great fitna about Quran, only imam hambal(rah) supported Quran remaining all ulema were silent because of fear of death. Since the debate was going on in the king's court. Imam hambal(rah) was winning all the debates, on final day he was sure to be punished, even he felt in his mind to keep quite(but if he kept quite people would fall in fitna that this imam is also quiet), but Allah gave him strength to challenge again, again he was winning the debate then the king ordered his people to beat imam hambal(rah). He was beaten so much that his flesh was falling on the ground, and blood was all around the court. (May Allah be pleased with him ). He was the only man to support islam in public.

- as said by moulana tariq jamil