Why did Ibn Saud and Sheikh Wahab destroy the Islamic Caliphate (Ottomon Empire) ?

[madmax786]

Ibn Saud and his alley Sheikh Wahab collaborated with the British Empire (The West) and the West supplied funds and weapons to destroy our Muslim brothers


Although the region in which the country stands today has an ancient history, the emergence of the Saudi dynasty began in central Arabia in 1744. That year, Muhammad bin Saud, the ruler of the town of Ad-Dir'iyyah near Riyadh, joined forces with a cleric, Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, to create a new political entity. This alliance formed in the 18th century remains the basis of Saudi Arabian dynastic rule today. Over the next 150 years, the fortunes of the Saud family rose and fell several times as Saudi rulers contended with Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, and other Arabian families for control on the peninsula. The Saudi state was founded by the late King Abdul Aziz Al-Saud (known internationally as Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud).

[fahid]

As Salamu Alaikum

Well we can point many fingers perhaps. The Empire began to take secular models of the monetary system for example, which helped pave way for it's end. Not to mention the Young Turks and their protest/revolution of 1908 (which was possibly prophesied in the Sahih Hadith of the story of the sacking of Constantinople and the "great war" in six years, in which WW1 happened to happen six years later in 1914) to the abolishment of the Caliphate by their hero Ataturk.

But the pointing of the finger may not go to the early Saud family, but after 1924 when the family had a chance to re-establish the Caliphate and from my understanding had made a deal that never again would the Muslim world establish the Caliphate itself.

Allah knows best.

[ENIGMA]

Fahid, could you possibly post that hadith please, about the great war. Not doubting you,but would just like to read it.

[mosa707]

Assalamu alaikum,

Maolana Imran Nazar Hussein wrote a book on this topic title," The caliphate - The Hejaz and The Saudi- Wahhabi Nation State". In it he states that there was Caliphate Conference held in Cairo in May 1926 to restore the caliphate but did not have support from some muslim countries including Saudi Arabia

Wassalam

[hugga12]

whose the guy that wanted to the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (saw)?

and whose the guy who did destroy graves belonging to the family members of Prophet Muhammad (saw

are they 2 different people?

[Shamli 1857]

Ibn Saud and his alley Sheikh Wahab collaborated with the British Empire (The West) and the West supplied funds and weapons to destroy our Muslim brothers


Although the region in which the country stands today has an ancient history, the emergence of the Saudi dynasty began in central Arabia in 1744. That year, Muhammad bin Saud, the ruler of the town of Ad-Dir'iyyah near Riyadh, joined forces with a cleric, Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, to create a new political entity. This alliance formed in the 18th century remains the basis of Saudi Arabian dynastic rule today. Over the next 150 years, the fortunes of the Saud family rose and fell several times as Saudi rulers contended with Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, and other Arabian families for control on the peninsula. The Saudi state was founded by the late King Abdul Aziz Al-Saud (known internationally as Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud).

Brother, this is historically inaccurate. Yes there were hostilities between the Sauds and the Ottomans. But the Ottomans were driven out from the Hijaz not by the Sauds but by Sharif Husain of Mecca. Sharif Hussain's descendants are the Royal family of Jordan. The Sauds then came and drove Sharif Hussain out.

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Brother, this is historically inaccurate. Yes there were hostilities between the Sauds and the Ottomans. But the Ottomans were driven out from the Hijaz not by the Sauds but by Sharif Husain of Mecca. Sharif Hussain's descendants are the Royal family of Jordan. The Sauds then came and drove Sharif Hussain out.

Asslamo Allaikum,

And the present day Saudi Arabia only consists of Mecca? Ottoman Empire also ruled over the rest of Saudia, Kuwait & Bahrain.

What happened in Najd (present-day Riyadh)?

To Br Fahid! Please explain from Qur'aan & Sunnah the justifications used by Saudees to rebel against the Khilafah?

[Shamli 1857]

Asslamo Allaikum,

And the present day Saudi Arabia only consists of Mecca? Ottoman Empire also ruled over the rest of Saudia, Kuwait & Bahrain.

What happened in Najd (present-day Riyadh)?

To Br Fahid! Please explain from Qur'aan & Sunnah the justifications used by Saudees to rebel against the Khilafah?

I think that's also historically incorrect brother Muadh. The Ottoman Empire ruled Hijaz and not the Najd area.

[Shamli 1857]

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[Tazkiyah]

Brother, this is historically inaccurate. Yes there were hostilities between the Sauds and the Ottomans. But the Ottomans were driven out from the Hijaz not by the Sauds but by Sharif Husain of Mecca. Sharif Hussain's descendants are the Royal family of Jordan. The Sauds then came and drove Sharif Hussain out.

The Sharifs of Makkah aligned themselves with the wahabis of Makkah .. what it came down to was that they got scared and were trying to save themselves. The ottoman who respected sayids threw out the Sharif of Makkah and installed his nephew. none the less it came down to a power struggle .. the wahabis looted the Prophets Grave but so did many sharifs also.