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    Default Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Question :

    About a year ago my wife and I decided to stop watching tv for the sake of pleasing Allah (SWT). Instead I bought a satellite decoder that receives channel Islam as well as radio Islam over the radio. A lot of people are saying that with this decoder I can get ITV (an Islamic tv channel), but I am unsure if Islam allows tv at all or not. We had not tuned in this channel as we do not want to anger Allah (SWT).

    1) Is it permissible to watch an Islamic channel such as Itv?

    In a recent addition of “the Majlis” ( a paper written by a prominent PE Imam), an article was written harshly condemning Islamic radio stations, mainly because some of the programs have female presenters. This article states that these radio stations “prostitute” our Muslim sister’s voices. I know that on channel Islam, Mufti AK Hoosein has a daily q&a program, and Mufti Siraaj Desai took over this program when Mufti AK went for Hajj this year. If the radio station is indeed haraam (these stations are refered to as radio shaitaan by the majlis), whould well known respected Ulama associate themselves with it? Unfortunately many Muslim brothers accuse the editor of "The Majlis" as “over-extreme” in his views, and advise that readers take things with a pinch of salt. This does not sit well with me, and I am confused and do not know where to draw the line, as this paper is distributed by most Masaajid in PE.

    2) Can Mufti Saheb advise as to how this publication can be viewed?

    3) Is listening to channel Islam and radio Islam Haraam?



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    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh


    The editor of the Majlis, Hazrath Moulana Ahmad Sadeck Desai Saheb Madda Zilluhu is an Aalim of a very high calibre. He has a deep understanding of Shariah. This is clearly gauged from his innumerable publications. Hazrath Moulana is the Khalifa of Hazrath Maseehullah Khan Saheb rahmatullah alayh. Hazrath has been selflessly dedicated to Amal bil Maroof and Nahi Anil Munkar for the past few decades. Hazrath is also engaged in various other activities. It is surprising how much one person can do. Allah has granted Hazrath great courage and strength. He is a person of high level of taqwa and mujahadah. He does not go after position and fame. If that was the case, Hazrath would not have selflessly and openly condemned many wrongs and evils for the fear of becoming unpopular. Many people throughout the world continue to benefit from Hazrath Moulana’s publications.

    Television is haram and we concur with Hazrath’s view on that. It is possible that the different radio stations err in some issues. If Hazrath points that out, it should be accepted and corrected. It is incorrect to brand Hazrath of being over extreme when he is fulfilling his obligation on Nahi Anil Munkar. Those that claim that Hazrath is extreme, what is their measure to claim that? If people violate the laws of Shariah and Hazrath rightfully condemns that, how can that be extremism? What do such people expect Hazrath to do? Keep quiet? What will that be then? Complacence, which is a sin.

    It should also be pointed out that differences of opinions among academics is regarded as academic honesty. This is common even among academics in secular qualifications. The different views among the Ulama, based on academics is a mercy upon the ummah and should be tolerated. If other Ulama have differing views from Hazrath’s views and both are based on academic substantiations, then it will be incorrect to brand any one view as being an extreme view. While we concur with Hazrath on the issue of television and open wrongs of television and radio stations, we may differ with him on other issues. However, we will respect his view and tolerate it as Hazrath’s views are generally substantiated by Shariah.

    If anyone claims to have an academically different opinion and he does not stand up to the academic challenges made to him, that is academic dishonesty and such an opinion cannot be tolerated as that is regarded as academic dishonesty.

    Another issue is the tone and manner of condemning a vice. This is based of hikmah and wisdom. At times, the Quran condemns certain wrongs in certain ways, medium to harsh. This is based on what is best in the interest of that time and matter. An Aalim of Deen is imbued with hikmah. He exercises that hikmah and whatever he honestly feels between him and Allah is the most efficient tone in condemning a wrong, he does that.

    The different ways of Ulama condemning wrongs, some with softness and others harshly etc. should be viewed in this light. Concentrate on the actual issue pointed out rather than focus on the style and tone.

    When the laws of Shairah are violated and people, especially Ulama, keep quiet, that incurs the wrath of Allah. The silence of Ulama will lead to distortion of Shariah and Deen. Allah condemned the Ulama of theYahood and Nasaara for keeping quiet against open violation of the Shariah. Rasulullah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said, “This knowledge of Deen will be carried by just people from pious predecessors. They will refute distortions of extremists, refute baseless claims and wrong interpretations of ignorant people”.

    And Allah knows best

    Wassalam

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Alhamdulillah. JazakAllah for bringing this to our attention.

    It's about time someone handled this issue. I think Mawlana Mufti Ebrahim Desai dealt with it professionaly and with much wisdom. I would have preferred he dealth a stronger blow but Alhamdulillah the righteous and pious inheritors of the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam) know how to address these issues well.


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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Moulana a s desai is one of a very few ulema in the world today, who through his writings is upholding and 'protecting" (allah (swt) is the ultimate protector)the deen.
    His writings and criticism is sometimes harsh, depending on the nature and seriousness of the topic.
    He is however an extremely simple and humble person. Only the fortunate few who has met moulana as desai know about this humble servant of the deen.
    His "harsh" writings cannot be likend to his personality.
    He is, according to many senior ulema in south africa and abroad one of the most brilliant minds.
    I suggest to people seeking the truth to subscribe to his "majlis"


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    Mawlana AS Desai in the view of Mufti Afzal Husayn Ilyas

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    Asalaamu Alaikum, Mufti Saab, I find it disgusting at the way Moulana A Desai of the Majlis very rudely and disgracefully refers to other Muslims. Cases in point are his referral to Channel Islam as Channel Shaitaan and of Moulana Bam as the Reverend Bam. His recent attack on Hashim Amla, referring to him as a monkey and prostitute is a disgrace especially considering he is a Moulana. Who is he to judge people? Does he believe he is a perfect human being to be able to judge and insult people such as Hashim Amla who has done a significant amount of work to make people see the beauty of Islam. His non-muslim team mates respect him and several have praised his dedication and devotion to his religion and his exemplary character. So what right has Moulana Desai have to insult this ambassador of Islam. Moulana Desai should look at ways of unifying the Ummah and not alienating people. Your comments will be highly appreciated and we make dua that Allah guides this loose cannon that is doing more harm to Islam than most people and has made a laughing stock of himself. May Allah guide him and clear his obviously warped mind. Salaams

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    Who are you to judge him? Study Islaamic History, you will find that as per the temperament of the people ALLAAH send a Nabi accordingly. sometimes firm, other time soft but in the shariat of Hadhrat Muhammad (S.A.W) all types of people have been catered for. Thus if one method does not work use another. In different situations different methods are used. Thus Moulana has got his method. His services will and cannot be forgotten. Your definition of 'Ambassador of Islaam' is not correct. My suggestion is to meet the man. Enjoining what is Right and forbidding eveil has various levels, degrees, methods and stages. Firmness can be seen in the life of Sahabah (R.A.). Actions of Nabi (S.A.W), Hadhrat Abu Bakr (R.A.), Hadhrat Umar (R.A.) and Hadhrat Ali (R.A.) can be read. True Ambassodors of Islaam are the sahabah (R.A.) - read our translation of 'Hayaatus Sahabah' for more details. If a person is buring in a house, a robber is about to steal, a murder about to happen, now when raising the alarm are you going to for in for 'Tajqeed' lessons. There are different methods for different situation whilst different react differently. See the severity, velocity of the sin and firstly recognize sin to be sin which most do not know - this reformation is virtually impossible. Poet says:- Do say without thinking Sau the correct thing Even if is, said after a while What is the difficulty.

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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Long live Mufti AS Desai sahab (db) with great eeman health and wealth, ameen!

    Long live The Majlis! Allah swt protect it and propagate it ameen!

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    Except you at the occurrence of widespread calamity.


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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Assalamu alaykum

    I have doubts about people who have reported about brother Hashim Amla to the great mufti sahib:

    First they have done tajassus on him
    Then they did Geebah on him
    And to make it more presentable they added salt and pepper and made it Buhtaan.

    All the three are haraam.

    Are these people worth sitting in the majlis of Mufti sahib damat barakatuhum.
    میرے مالک یہ احمد کی سن لے دعا
    ہو مقدر میں ہر سال دید حرم
    یا جبال الحرم یا جبال الحرم


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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Quote Originally Posted by FususAlHikam View Post
    Long live Mufti AS Desai sahab (db) with great eeman health and wealth, ameen!

    Long live The Majlis! Allah swt protect it and propagate it ameen!

    Ameen!
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    In the case of Hashim Amla, you can't deny the countless fiqhi texts stating that activities like cricket are haraam is accompanied by a long period and haram acts. None can deny that commercial sports nowadays have many evils, such as mixed gatherings, half-naked women in public, playing all day on friday etc. So on this basis Mufti AS Desai calls him a faasiq. You can find in the fatawa (such as fatawa rahimiyya) that even listening to cricket commentary on the radio is haraam.

    I would say cricket is more worse than any other sport because it goes on for like 6 hours.

    However, Mufti Husain made an interesting point:
    How would engaging in one's profession, for which one gets paid handsomely, be engaging in futile activities?
    Watching cricket could be futile, playing cricket casually could also be so.
    But if your employer pays you to hit a ball with a bat, instead of any other manual labour, would this be futile or earning a living?

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post829586
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    Default Re: Mufti AS Desai - The Majlis ... in view of Muft Ebrahim Desai..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ansari View Post
    In the case of Hashim Amla, you can't deny the countless fiqhi texts stating that activities like cricket are haraam is accompanied by a long period and haram acts. None can deny that commercial sports nowadays have many evils, such as mixed gatherings, half-naked women in public, playing all day on friday etc. So on this basis Mufti AS Desai calls him a faasiq. You can find in the fatawa (such as fatawa rahimiyya) that even listening to cricket commentary on the radio is haraam.

    I would say cricket is more worse than any other sport because it goes on for like 6 hours.

    However, Mufti Husain made an interesting point:
    JazakAllah Akhi


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