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    Default Re: Jamia Nizamia - Hyderabad

    Quote Originally Posted by Julaybib View Post
    Salaam.

    It could be like that Madrassah in Nadwah, the deobandis claim, it is neautral.
    But essentially the Nadwis and deobandis are similar line of thought.

    So I suspect this one although historically independent follows the same line as barelvi.


    The Jamia Nizamia actually has the same spiritual foundation as that of dar al uloom deoband.

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    PS
    The same sort of self promotion can be seen here too:
    well i wasnt talking about promotion.

    write ur email id on my blog below i will send u the link, u will inshallah understand everything. dont worry no one can see ur email, comment moderation is on.

    by the way i dont hate anybody, if u what to think so, u can


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    well its too late here, i was studying for my exam and u dragged me into this

    see u all tomorrow


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    Salaam.

    Maybe so historically, amongst the scholars, personally i am sceptical about the whole neutral I doubt if there are many people or even scholars who do not lean one way or the other from the sub-continent. Even if their historic foundations are neutral.

    If the teachers of this madrassah are all graduates of the institution, sure then they are neautral, but if they graduated elsewhere, then they are more then likely educated in one of the rival groups.
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    I don't think we should accuse Muslims of hating other Muslims. This is especially so when it is obviously not true.

    Hate is a very strong and emotive word.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muslim786 View Post


    I have noticed you have a deep rooted hatred for the barelvis, and also one to pin people as being deobandi or barelvi. Unfortunately things are not that black and white.



    Wa alaikum salam

    How does it concern you brother? And yes, i hate all the Mukaffirun from Barelwiyya, but that does not mean i hate all who adhere to that path. How is a Deobandi going to react to those from Barelwiyya who mock and make takfir of the elders of Deoband? This forum is very pro-Deobandi and so if one was to go to a forum like "Ya Nabi" and start promoting th elders of Deoband - do you think i would get fair treatment over there?!

    Wassalam


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunni Muslim View Post
    Wa alaikum salam

    How does it concern you brother? And yes, i hate all the Mukaffirun from Barelwiyya, but that does not mean i hate all who adhere to that path. How is a Deobandi going to react to those from Barelwiyya who mock and make takfir of the elders of Deoband? This forum is very pro-Deobandi and so if one was to go to a forum like "Ya Nabi" and start promoting th elders of Deoband - do you think i would get fair treatment over there?!

    Wassalam


    Sure. Without doubt you will not like people who call your akabir kaffir, and you shouldn't but you have on many occasions lumped people into a group to which they do not belong, and this is not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julaybib View Post
    Salaam.

    Maybe so historically, amongst the scholars, personally i am sceptical about the whole neutral I doubt if there are many people or even scholars who do not lean one way or the other from the sub-continent. Even if their historic foundations are neutral.

    If the teachers of this madrassah are all graduates of the institution, sure then they are neautral, but if they graduated elsewhere, then they are more then likely educated in one of the rival groups.


    There are many. Almost all the naqshbandi-mujadidis from bangladesh are neutral, and they have their own madaris from which they take their teachers. But sure you may have people from these places that may lean in one way or the other. This leaning on the most part is caused by people from either the deobandi or barelvi groups attacking these neutrals, which sometimes causes them to move closer to the opposite group and in some cases possibly wins them to their own cause.

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    brother muslim 786 u did not write ur email id on my blog.
    i dont want u to write even.

    because u r debating with a wrong man, i dont hate any group or sect, half of my family is of barelwi thought

    jamia nizamia is of barelwi thought and a historical institution in hyderabad


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    Default Re: Jamia Nizamia - Hyderabad

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulquddus View Post
    brother muslim 786 u did not write ur email id on my blog.
    i dont want u to write even.

    because u r debating with a wrong man, i dont hate any group or sect, half of my family is of barelwi thought

    jamia nizamia is of barelwi thought and a historical institution in hyderabad


    It is not of Barelvi thought. Doing mawlid and urs does not make one a barelvi. If this institution is Barelvi then you would have to call a lot of arabs/sudanese and others barelvi which they are not.

    I have posted my email address, I look forward to your email.
    Ya Nabi Salamu 'alayka,
    Ya Habib Salamu 'alayka,
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    Salawatula 'alayka
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