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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    I read this on white thread press website it might be useful for everyone to read

    Publishing: Is Perfection Achievable?

    At White Thread Press we strive for perfection in every aspect of book publishing. Sometimes it takes us several months longer to produce a book just because we want it right from every aspect. It may need another edit or proofread, a fact or reference may need re-checking, or we are just waiting for a scholarly review, or it is something associated with the seemingly mundane aspect of typography, or the grayness of the text blocks are not balancing well enough. Readers who appreciate our books may not be able to identify all the little things that go into in our books but probably do appreciate the finished product. Though we strive our utmost, there is always something that could be changed or corrected in the second print. This is probably the case with all other good publishers. The following highlights some important aspects to this dilemma.
    Imad al-Din al-Asfahani says,
    I have seen that whenever someone writes a book he says the next day, “If this part could be changed it would be better,” or “If this was added it would be appreciated more,” or “If this part was brought forward it would be superior,” or “If this part was left out it would read better.”
    In this is an important and critical lesson that defectiveness dominates over mankind (Muhammad Musa, Al-Madkhal li Dirasat al-Fiqh, p. 6). Muzani the student of Imam Shafi’i relates about his teacher’s work the Risala,
    “I read the Risala to Shafi’i eighty times and each time we would find errors.” Imam Shafi’i then remarked, “Yes, Allah has refused that there be any book other than His that is completely free of errors” (Bukhari, Kashf al-Asrar 1:4).
    A similar account is related from another of Imam Shafi’i’s students Rabi’ ibn Sulayman who says,
    “I read the Risala Misriyya to Shafi’i over thirty times and each time he would edit it. He would then remark, “Allah has refused that there be any book other than His that is completely free of errors” (Bayhaqi, Manaqib al-Shafi’i 2:32).
    It is related that Imam Malik had originally composed his Muwatta’ of about ten thousand hadiths. He would review it every year and remove some narrations from here and there until it came to be in its current form (Qadi Iyad, Tartib al-Madarik 1:193).
    If this is the state of these great and noble Imams whose works have been universally celebrated then the position of people like us becomes clear. We can only say,
    “Lord, do not take us to task if we forget or make mistakes. Lord, do not burden us as You burdened those before us. Lord, do not burden us with more than we have strength to bear. Pardon us, forgive us, and have mercy on us. You are our Protector, so help us against the disbelievers” (Qur’an 2:286).
    "Invite (people) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good counsel. And argue with them in the best of manners. Surely, your Lord knows best the one who deviates from His way, and He knows best the ones who are on the right path"[16:125]


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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o



    I don't think anyone would have an issue with Turath's publishing schedule if they haven't said 'this year it'll be out' since 2007.


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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    Quote Originally Posted by Ali al-Hanafi View Post


    Nawawi, if you don't mind me asking, is there any particular reason for why are you so eager for the translation? I assume you know Arabic right?
    As Salamu Alaykum

    I've been waiting patiently for this book to come out ever since they advertised it as forthcoming when I first bought my copy of the Muwatta of Imam Muhammad in 2004. Time and time again they would say it would come out in this year or that year. So I would wait then follow up with them...the one email I got was volume 1 was finished and all they had to do was do some editing and indexing and it would come out the end of that year. Waited until the beginning of the year after and it still didnt come out. It's been 8 years..they are really lagging on this book. That is my reason. If they just said its forthcoming without years or dates i would have been fine with it. But reps from turath havent kept breaking their promises.
    Imam ash-Shafi`i said, "Whoever takes knowledge from books loses the regulations." (man akhadha al-`ilma min al-kutubi Dayya`a al-aHkaama). [Reported by Nawawi in the introduction to "al-Majmu`"]




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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    I think it's best for someone to go personally to them and ask them what the real issue is and if they are lagging due to money, maybe we all chip in some money.


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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    Quote Originally Posted by Nawawi619 View Post
    As Salamu Alaykum

    I've been waiting patiently for this book to come out ever since they advertised it as forthcoming when I first bought my copy of the Muwatta of Imam Muhammad in 2004. Time and time again they would say it would come out in this year or that year. So I would wait then follow up with them...the one email I got was volume 1 was finished and all they had to do was do some editing and indexing and it would come out the end of that year. Waited until the beginning of the year after and it still didnt come out. It's been 8 years..they are really lagging on this book. That is my reason. If they just said its forthcoming without years or dates i would have been fine with it. But reps from turath havent kept breaking their promises.


    What I meant to write is, (assuming you know Arabic) why not just get the original Arabic version? Surely that will be far superior to getting the English version?
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    As Salaamu Alaykum,

    I pray you are well brother.

    An apology has already been given about the eagerness to release this book and setting a date which has been very unrealistic.

    The project was a far bigger one than we imagined when we started it and Insha'Allah the book will be forthcoming with no date set on when it will be released.

    After an apology has been given why do you still insist in mentioning this same incident again and again?

    Unfortunately some things are beyond our control and we ask sincerely for your duas that Allah makes these tasks easy for us and accepts our efforts and we ask that you forgive us for our shortcomings and we ask that Allah forgives us also.

    Duas Requested

    Was Salaam

    on behalf of Turath Publishing


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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    Quote Originally Posted by TurathPublishing View Post
    As Salaamu Alaykum,

    I pray you are well brother.

    An apology has already been given about the eagerness to release this book and setting a date which has been very unrealistic.

    The project was a far bigger one than we imagined when we started it and Insha'Allah the book will be forthcoming with no date set on when it will be released.

    After an apology has been given why do you still insist in mentioning this same incident again and again?

    Unfortunately some things are beyond our control and we ask sincerely for your duas that Allah makes these tasks easy for us and accepts our efforts and we ask that you forgive us for our shortcomings and we ask that Allah forgives us also.

    Duas Requested

    Was Salaam

    on behalf of Turath Publishing
    As Salamu Alaykum

    First they said "it will be end of this year (9/6/2007) .The problem was when there was an apology, it was followed up with "the book will be out in three months (1/14/2009)." When that didn't pan out. They apologized again saying "by the end of year (2009)" After that, I saw no additional apology. It's now been 5 years since me first inquiry to this project. Had people been notified that this is a forthcoming work with out putting out dates we wouldnt be talking about it now. I also take issue with Zaytuna college for pulling the same thing with the Maliki text al murshid al mu'in of ibn ashir. It was supposed to be out in 2007, its also been five years passed now.

    So its not an issue of keep bringing the topic up. Notice I haven't been on this forum for over a year if not more. I followed up whenever a date was given for the publication of this work. If you guys said by the end of 2009, I checked back and posted up at the end of 2009 or early 2010. And since Turath has not notifed me (ive emailed them and havent gotten a response since they emailed me back in 2007) about the update on the project, I've based their timetable on their last projected publication date which was 2009. So now its been almost three years since it was said it would be out in the end of 2009.

    Now that you have responded, i dont need to bring this topic up again. But from a business perspective, imagine if Apple's IPhone pulled that on the public? It's not good for business and it isnt professional especially when people have been waiting 5 years for this work (I've been waiting for 8 years). It would have been nice if turath put on its website " due to unforeseen circumstances al lubab is taking longer than expected to complete."
    Imam ash-Shafi`i said, "Whoever takes knowledge from books loses the regulations." (man akhadha al-`ilma min al-kutubi Dayya`a al-aHkaama). [Reported by Nawawi in the introduction to "al-Majmu`"]




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    Default Re: Any idea when Turath Publishing's translation of Lubab sharh al kitab is coming o

    Quote Originally Posted by ImamGhazzaali View Post
    I think it's best for someone to go personally to them and ask them what the real issue is and if they are lagging due to money, maybe we all chip in some money.
    I've emailed them several times. No response as of late. Last time they responded was 2007.
    Imam ash-Shafi`i said, "Whoever takes knowledge from books loses the regulations." (man akhadha al-`ilma min al-kutubi Dayya`a al-aHkaama). [Reported by Nawawi in the introduction to "al-Majmu`"]




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