Raf-al-Yadayn

[al_Zayn]

There are heaps of these topic on Sunni forum search engine, but i have read a few of them and have few questions:

I understand there are certain Isnads that have been graded as Sahih for example the narration in at-Tirmidhi.

But my main question lies in some other the narrations of not raising the hands anywhere else in Salah [Except first Takbeer], which is found in Sahih Ibn 'Awana (2:90) and Musnad al Humaydi (2:277), i have been reading that some have accused the Ahnaaf of Tahreef of the manuscripts/works relating to these hadith, is this true? if it is not, what is the rebuttal to this?

What were the opinions of Other Scholars of raising/not raising the hands in prayer? please post Scholars name and Source.

[tru_Qur'an]

There are heaps of these topic on Sunni forum search engine, but i have read a few of them and have few questions:

I understand there are certain Isnads that have been graded as Sahih for example the narration in at-Tirmidhi.

But my main question lies in some other the narrations of not raising the hands anywhere else in Salah [Except first Takbeer], which is found in Sahih Ibn 'Awana (2:90) and Musnad al Humaydi (2:277), i have been reading that some have accused the Ahnaaf of Tahreef of the manuscripts/works relating to these hadith, is this true? if it is not, what is the rebuttal to this?

What were the opinions of Other Scholars of raising/not raising the hands in prayer? please post Scholars name and Source.

Walaykum salaam akhi,

I don't have any information regarding those narrations you posted. Do you remember the debate between Imaam Abu Hanifah(ra) and Imaam Awza'i(ra) ?

[Shaykh]

I talked to my Mufti Sahab (deobandi) about this and he said that there is no harm in doing Rafah al Yadayn once in a while. But he said to do it in private so that people dont take it as a wajib or farz and also do it only for the love of Prophet

The problem comes when the Ahle Hadith refute its absence and then the Ahnaaf Scholars try to refute them... in the end both end up refuting the Hadith...

[abulayl]

WEll i am busy with my prayer. And i dont care what other people are doing. But if anybody shows finger to my pray then i dont go away until i put my nail on his head

[want2knowtruths]

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[Live for Islam]

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[Ali al-Hanafi]

Check out this attachment. I downloaded it from another thread a while back so don't thank me. Basically, two students of the Ahle Hadith Scholar Nawwab Siddique Hassan Sahib have included the alleged tahreef in their copies of Ibn Awanah and these are part of the vast collection of books at the library of Darul Uloom Deoband (of all places ).

[al_Zayn]

Check out this attachment. I downloaded it from another thread a while back so don't thank me. Basically, two students of the Ahle Hadith Scholar Nawwab Siddique Hassan Sahib have included the alleged tahreef in their copies of Ibn Awanah and these are part of the vast collection of books at the library of Darul Uloom Deoband (of all places ).

Br Ali al Hanafi for the file.


il check it out.

[al_Zayn]

Walaykum salaam akhi,

I don't have any information regarding those narrations you posted. Do you remember the debate between Imaam Abu Hanifah(ra) and Imaam Awza'i(ra) ?

Yes i have the debate, Alhamdulillah....this debate shows to those who make the claims that imam Abu Hanifa [Ra] didn't possess insight into Ahadiths or was ignorant of certain Ahadith...is nothing but a nonsensical claim, infact this debate shows his rebuttal was revised upon before he met up with Imam Awza'iee [Ra]...

Subhan-Allah, this is the vast knowledge and Hikmah that Allah [Azza Wa Jal] showered him with.

Wallahu A'lam

[tru_Qur'an]

Yes i have the debate, Alhamdulillah....this debate shows to those who make the claims that imam Abu Hanifa [Ra] didn't possess insight into Ahadiths or was ignorant of certain Ahadith...is nothing but a nonsensical claim, infact this debate shows his rebuttal was revised upon before he met up with Imam Awza'iee [Ra]...

Subhan-Allah, this is the vast knowledge and Hikmah that Allah [Azza Wa Jal] showered him with.

Wallahu A'lam

Walaykum salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu,

wa iyaaka