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    Assalamu alaikum,

    I have come across a few jumaah khutbah online where they focus on a person saying that he is wrong. Is this allowed? Isn't it more beneficial to talk about fundamentals of islam as even people who dont pray 5 times daily come for Jumuah.

    jazakallah khair


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    Quote Originally Posted by mosa707 View Post
    Assalamu alaikum,

    I have come across a few jumaah khutbah online where they focus on a person saying that he is wrong. Is this allowed? Isn't it more beneficial to talk about fundamentals of islam as even people who dont pray 5 times daily come for Jumuah.

    jazakallah khair
    the khutbah is about delivering a message to the muslims, instead of talking about some person who is wrong or telling people to pray, the imam should talk about the problems the muslims face today such as iraq, afgahanistan, palestine and others.

    the imam should be telling the muslims about the kafir rulers that rule in the muslim world, which need to be removed!

    And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers (kafir). [surah 5-44]

    And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the oppressors (zalimoon) [surah 5-45]

    And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the rebellious (fasiqoon). [surah 5:47]

    Ruling according to Islam can only be achieved in one state, with one kalifah.

    It is reported in Muslim that `Abdullah ibn `Amr ibn al-'As narrated that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saw) say,

    "He who gave the bay'ah to an Imam, giving him the clasp of his hand and the
    fruit of his heart has to obey him as long as he can. If another comes to
    dispute with him (his authority) strike the neck of that person."


    Abu Said al-Khudri narrated that the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said,

    "If a bay'ah is taken for two Khalifahs, kill the latter one."

    And `Arfaja said that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saaw) say,

    "If someone comes to you when you are united over one man and wants to break
    your strength and divide your unity, kill him."


    Prophet (saw) said, “Whosoever dies without a bay‘ah (an oath of
    allegiance) upon his neck, he will die in a state of ignorance (jahilliyah)”.



    This is what the muslims should be discussing, not about some guy who is wrong.


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    Post Re: Jumuah Khutbah

    Salaam,

    "This is what the muslims should be discussing, not about some guy who is wrong."

    In Khutbah or outside Khutbah

    If it is in Khutbah than just provide some evidence

    JazakAllah
    "O my son!" (said Luqman), "If there be (but) the weight of a mustard-seed and it were (hidden) in a rock, or (anywhere) in the heavens or on earth, Allah will bring it forth: for Allah understands the finest mysteries, (and) is well-acquainted (with them). (Surah Luqman verse 16)


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    Default Re: Jumuah Khutbah

    hmmm brother zico what about almost 90% muslims people leaving namaz and quran, do u feel those are the second thing


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    Default Re: Jumuah Khutbah

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah99 View Post
    Salaam,

    "This is what the muslims should be discussing, not about some guy who is wrong."

    In Khutbah or outside Khutbah
    If it is in Khutbah than just provide some evidence

    JazakAllah
    The listening to a khutba that focuses on Muslims' loyalty to Allah, with the main objective of inspiring and motivating Muslims to order and practice virtue (ma`roof) and forbid vice (munkar). This is supported by several authentic Hadiths, the following appears in Sahih Muslim:

    Narrated Abu Huraira "The person who takes a bath then comes to the Jum`a prayer, then offers the prayer that was destined for him, and then keeps silent till the Imam finishes the sermon, and then prays along with him, his sins between that time and the next Friday would be forgiven, and even of three days more"

    tell me do you have a problem with what i said regarding the khutbah? would you rather the imaam talks about some story of a Prophet or the virtues of doing Hajj?


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    Quote Originally Posted by abdulquddus View Post
    hmmm brother zico what about almost 90% muslims people leaving namaz and quran, do u feel those are the second thing
    what?

    if Islam was being implemented via an islamic state, it would assure that everyone is reading salah.

    businesses will need to close when it is salah time and the childeren will be given proper islamic education when they are young.

    do you guys have a problem with the fact that we need an Islamic state?

    you and your family would be crying for help if you were born and lived in Palestine! then you would want the muslims to come and help you, rather then sit at home "perfecting your heart"


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    Salaam,


    "Ruling according to Islam can only be achieved in one state, with one kalifah."

    may be off topic but just let us know in modern era which Aalim should be the best candidate to take the role of Khalifa and how he should be elected?
    "O my son!" (said Luqman), "If there be (but) the weight of a mustard-seed and it were (hidden) in a rock, or (anywhere) in the heavens or on earth, Allah will bring it forth: for Allah understands the finest mysteries, (and) is well-acquainted (with them). (Surah Luqman verse 16)


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    Default Re: Jumuah Khutbah

    do you guys have a problem with the fact that we need an Islamic state?
    no, we dont have any problem with that

    its waste of time explaining u, u dont understand anything


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah99 View Post
    Salaam,


    "Ruling according to Islam can only be achieved in one state, with one kalifah."

    may be off topic but just let us know in modern era which Aalim should be the best candidate to take the role of Khalifa and how he should be elected?

    lets not worry about which guy is suitable for the job, lets accept the fact that for muslims it is FARD to be living under a caliph.

    lets educate ourselve with this fard, lets educate ourselve with what steps need to be taken and most importantly lets tell all the other muslims about this fard!

    by doing this we are working for the re establishing of the state, inshallah.

    i personnally do not care who it is, except the fact that he rules by Islam 100%.

    in the mean time lets work for it! May Allah (swt) help us.


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    Default Re: Jumuah Khutbah

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulquddus View Post
    no, we dont have any problem with that

    its waste of time explaining u, u dont understand anything
    A fard is a Fard, you have to do it.

    fasting is fard and so is salah! do we have choice?

    NO, we complete all the fard, so please tell me if the imaam tells the muslims about the fact that there is no islamic state (which is FARD) is he doing something wrong?

    No, so whats the issue?


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