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    Question Palanpuri, Kandhalwi, Thanwi, Ludhianwi, Gangohi, Qasmi, Dahalwi, Usmani & Jhangwi



    How are they connected to each other? In term of family-ties and teacher-student relationships. If you are 100% sure that two of one "khandan" have no relation at all then state that please, too...


    Palanpuri
    1. Hadhrat Maulana Umar Palanpuri (rh) [father of 3]
    2. Mufti Sa'eed Ahmad Palanpuri (db) [brother 4]
    3. Maulana Yunus Palanpuri (db) [son of 1]
    4. Maulana Muhammad Amin Palanpuri (db) [brother 2]
    (... add more if you know)

    Kandhalvi
    1. Shaykh al-Hadith Maulana Zakariyya Kandhalvi (rh) [father of 15, father in law of 4 & 5, grandfather of 9, nephew of 3, cousin of 5]
    2. Shaykh at-Tafseer Hadhrat Idris Kandhalvi (rh)
    3. Maulana Muhammad Ilyas Kandhalvi (rh) [father of 5, son of 13, grandfather of 14, great-grandfather of 8]
    4. Hadhrat Ji Maulana Inaamul Hassan Kandhalvi (rh) [father of 9, son in law of 1]
    5. Ameer at-Tabligh Maulana Yusuf Kandhalvi (rh) [cousin of 1, son in law of 1, son of 3, grandson of 5]
    6. Maulana Ashfaqur Rahman Kandhalvi (rh)
    7. Moulana Mufti Ilahi Baksh Kandhalvi (rh)
    8. Maulana Saad Kandhalvi (db) [son of 14, great grandson of 3]
    9. Maulana Zubairul Hassan Kandhalvi (db) [son of 4]
    10. Maulana Ihtishamul Haq Kandhalvi (rh)
    11. Mufti Arshad Kandhalvi (db)
    12. Maulana Iftekharul Hasan Kandhalvi (rh)
    13. Maulana Ismail Kandhalvi (rh) [father of 3, grandfather of 5, great grandfather of 14]
    14. Maulana Haroon Kandhalvi (rh) [son of 5, grandson of 3, great grandson of 13, father of 8]
    15. Maulana Talha Kandhalvi [son of 1]
    (... add more if you know)

    Thanvi
    1. Hakim al-Ummat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (rh) [uncle of 4]
    2. Maulana Ihtishamul Haq Thanvi (rh)
    3. Mufti Jamil Ahmad Thanwi (rh)
    4. Maulana Shabbir Ali Thanwi (rh) [nephew of 1]
    5. Maulana Tanwirul Haq Thanvi
    6. Qari Mian Ahmed Thanvi (db)
    7. Qari Najmul Hassan Thanvi
    8. Maulana Musharaf Ali Thanvi (db)
    (... add more if you know)

    Ludhyanvi
    1. Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanvi (rh)
    2. Maulana Yusuf Ludhyanvi Shaheed (rh) [father of 4]
    3. Maulana Abdul Majeed Ludhyanvi
    4. Maulana Yahya Ludhyanvi [son of 2]
    (... add more if you know)

    Usmani
    1. Mufti-e-Azam Muhammad Shafi' Usmani (rh) [son of 12, father of 4, 5 & 6, grandfather of 7]
    2. Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani (rh) [brother of 8 & 9, son of 10]
    3. Allamah Zafar Ahmed Usmani (rh) [grandson of 11]
    4. Shaikhul Islam Mufti Taqi Usmani (db) [son of 1, uncle of 7]
    5. Hadhrat Maulana Mufti Rafi Usmani (db) [son of 1, uncle of 7]
    6. Hadhrat Maulana Wali Razi Usmani (db) [son of 1]
    7. Maulana Mehmood Ashraf Usmani (db) [grandson of 1, nephew of 4 & 5]
    8. Mufti Azizur Rahman Usmani (rh) [brother of 2 & 9, son of 10]
    9. Maulana Habibur Rahman Usmani (rh) [brother of 2 & 8, son of 10]
    10. Hadhrat Maulana Fadhlur Rahman Usmani (rh) [father of 2, 8 & 9]
    11. Shaykh Nihal Ahmad Usmani (rh) [grandfather of 3]
    12. Maulana Muhammad Yaseen (rh) [father of 1, grandfather of 4, 5 & 6, great grandfather of 7]
    (... add more if you know)

    Nanautwi
    1. Mawlana Mamluk al-'Ali Nanautwi [father of 4]
    2. Hujjat al-Islam Mawlana Muhammad Qasim Nanautwi (rh) [father of 7, grandfather of 8 & 9, great-grandfather of 10 & 11]
    3. Mawlana Muhammad Mazhar Nanautwi [brother of 5 & 6]
    4. Mawlana Muhammad Ya'qub Nanautwi [son of 1]
    5. Mawlana Muhammad Ahsan Nanautwi [brother of 3 & 6]
    6. Mawlana Muhammad Munir Nanautwi [brother of 3 & 5]
    7. Mawlana Muhammad Ahmad Nanautwi (rh) [son of 2, father of 8 & 9, grandfather of 10 & 11]
    8. Qari Muhammad Tayyib Qasmi (rh) [son of 7, brother of 9, grandson of 2, father of 10, uncle of 11]
    9. Maulana Muhammad Tahir Qasmi (rh) [son of 7, brother of 8, grandson of 2, father of 11, uncle of 10]
    10. Maulana Muhammad Salim Qasmi (db) [son of 8, cousin of 11, grandson of 7, great grandson of 2]
    11. Maulana Muhammad Asif Qasmi (db) [son of 9, cousin of 10, grandson of 7, great grandson of 2]
    (... add more if you know)

    Last edited by True Life; 04-07-2010 at 01:39 PM.


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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    palanpuri

    moulana younus palanpuri is son of umar palanpuri (rah)
    i have seen him

    kandhalvi

    - moulana sa'ad kandhalvi son of moulana haroon kandhalvi son of moulana yousuf kandhalvi son of illyas kandhalvi son of ismail kandhalvi (original founder of present tabligh )

    - moulana zakariya(rah) is father-in-law of yousuf (rah)
    - moulana inam-ul-hasan(rah) is son-in-law of zakariya (rah)

    - moulana zubair-ul-hasan son of inam-ul-hasan(rah)


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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani



    They are not neccessarliy related because the names headlined are names of places, e.g. kandhalvi, Ludhyanvi, Thanvi and Qasmi simply means that the individual is a graduate of Darul Uloom Deoband. Having said that, many of them are related as abdulquddus has pointed out.

    P.S. don't forget:

    Mufti Azizur Rahman Usmani (rahmatullahialay) and Moulana Habibur Rahman Usmani (rahmatullahialay), who were Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani's(rahmatullahialay) older brothers.
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    And there's also the Gangohis to consider
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani



    Okay, I know that many or even most of the ones I listened will have no connection with eachother.
    But can someone not just start posting the connections he knows about?

    True, I'll add the Gangohis later on.

    btw. What was the origin for calling Deoband graduants Qasmis? Was it just because of Maulana Qasim Nanotwi? Or is there a story behind that?



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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    mashaallah..great thread

    dont forget..some of them are village names..not family names

    gangoh..palanpur etc

    deoband zindaabaan

    and dabhel..bardoli etc
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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    Loot at the changes I made... please add more relations (family and student/teacher wise).


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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani



    Quote Originally Posted by True Life View Post

    btw. What was the origin for calling Deoband graduants Qasmis? Was it just because of Maulana Qasim Nanotwi? Or is there a story behind that?
    I'm assumning it's simply because of the fact that Hazrat Moulana Qasim Sahib (rahmatullahialay) is regarded as the main founder of the Darul Uloom but I may be wrong, I don't know fro sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by True Life View Post
    please add more relations (family and student/teacher wise).
    Student-teacher wise, I find the relationships very interesting and inspiring. In fact, it's one of the main motivating factors for me (if that makes any sense!). This is the basic chain. Fell free to correct/add names and generations as you see fit because I'm sure that there will be mistakes in my listing (Nu'ayman, I'm referring to you here in particular!).

    I divide the student-teacher relationships into generations. It's easier to connect the names that way:

    First Generation:

    Hazrat Moulana Qasim Nanotwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Mufti Rashid Ahmad Gangohi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Ya'qub Nanotwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Rafi'udeen Deobandi Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Sa'adat Ali Saharanpoori (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Mazhar Nanotwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Zulfiqar Ali (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Fazlul Rahman (rahmatullahialay)

    Second Generation

    Hazrat Shaikhul Hind, Moulana Mufti Mahmoodul Hassan Gangohi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Azizur Rahman Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Ahmad Ali Muhaddith Saharanpoori (Rahmatullahialay)

    Third Generation

    Hazrat Hekeemul Ummat, Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Shaikhul Islam, Moulana Hussain Ahmad Madani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Imam ul Asr, Allamah Anwar Shah Sahib Kashmiri (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Habeebur Rahman Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Kifayatullah Dehlwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Yahya Khandelwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana I'izaz Ali (rahmatullahialay)

    Fourth Generation

    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Shaikhul Hadith, Moulana Muhammad Zakariyah Khandelwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Idris Khandelwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Qari Muhammad Tayyib (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Muhaddith Yusuf Binnori (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Muhaddith Zafar Ahmad Usmani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Ahmad Ali Lahori (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Mahdi Hassan (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Sulaiman Ahamd Nadwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Manzoor Nu'mani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Syed Ataullah Shah Bukhari (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Mufti Mahmood (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Ghulamullah Khan (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Abdullah Darkhawasti (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Mawlana Hussain Ali (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrta Moulana Shams ul-Haq Afghani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Khair Muhammed (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Tanveer Ahmad Khan (damat brakatuhum)

    Fifth Generation

    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Mufti Mahmoodul Hassan Gangohi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Rasheed Ahmad Ludhyanvi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Shaikhul Islam, Moulana Abul Hassan Ali Nadwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Mufti Abdush Shukoor Tirmidhi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana As'ad Madani (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Allamah Khalid Mahmood (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Moulana Allamah Safraz Khan Safdar (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Moulana Yusuf Palandri (damat barakatuhum) - student of Allamah Anwar Shah Kashmiri (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Qadi Mazhar Hussain (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Qadi Ahsan ullah Shujaabadi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Saleem ullah Khan (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana M. Abdullah Shaheed (rahamtullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Zia ul-Qasmi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Muhammad Umar Palanpuri (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Ibrahim Dewla (rahmatullahialay)

    Sixth Generation

    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Qadhi Mufti Abdur Razzak Khan Sahib (damat barakatuhum) - well I can't exclude my Shaikh can I?
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Rafi Usmani (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Taqi Usmani (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Muhaddith, Moulana Shaikh Yunus Janpoori (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Shaheed Moulana Mufti Yusuf Ludhyanvi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Mufti Azam, Moulana Mufti Sa'eed Ahmad Palanpoori (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Moulana Ameen Safdar Okarwi (rahmatullahialay)
    Hazrat Moulana Anzar Shah Kashmiri (damat barakatuhum)
    Hazrat Moulana Qadhi Mufti Mujahidul Islam Qasmi (rahmatullahialay)
    Last edited by Ali al-Hanafi; 14-11-2008 at 04:02 PM.
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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    Muhaqqiq M. Sarfraz Khan Safdar and Allamah Dr. Khalid Mahmood would fall under Generation 4 since their ustaads are in Third Generation.

    Fourth Generation

    Ameer-e-Shariat Syed Ataullah Shah Bukhari
    Mawlana Mufti Mahmood
    Shaykh al-Quran Mawlana Ghulamullah Khan
    Hafiz-e-Hadith Mawlana Abdullah Darkhawasti
    Shaykh al-Quran Mawlana Hussain Ali
    Mawlana Shams ul-Haq Afghani
    Mawlana Khair Muhammed sahab

    Fifth Generation

    Mawlana Qadi Mazhar Hussain
    Qadi Ahsan ullah Shujaabadi
    Shaykh al-Hadith Saleem ullah Khan
    Mawlana M. Abdullah Shaheed
    Mawlana Zia ul-Qasmi

    Sixth Generation

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    Mufti Zar Wali Khan
    Allamah Ali Sher Haidri
    Last edited by Saad; 19-03-2008 at 05:20 AM.
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    Default Re: Palanpuri, Kandhalvi, Thanvi, Ludhyanvi, Qasmi & Usmani

    Mufti Ibrahim Desai in the same generation as Mufti Rafi or Taqi Usmani? Or Maulana Yusuf Ludhyanvi Shaheed? Not sure about that... maybe there should be a seventh generation.


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