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    As-salamu alaykum,

    Is it rude to call someone a hijabi/niqabi? I've heard many people use these terms before. I've also heard that one shouldn't use them...what's your take?
    Al-Layth said: "If I saw a person of desires (i.e. innovations) walking upon the water I would not accept from him." So Imam as-Shafii then said: "He (al-Layth) has fallen short. If I saw him walking in the air I would not accept from him."

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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    Quote Originally Posted by ammardiwan View Post
    As-salamu alaykum,

    Is it rude to call someone a hijabi/niqabi? I've heard many people use these terms before. I've also heard that one shouldn't use them...what's your take?
    wa alaykum assalam,

    I don't see anything wrong with the usage of those terms unless I'm missing something here.

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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi



    As a hijabi/niqabi I don't see anything wrong with the usage of these terms either.


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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    Salaam,

    Quote Originally Posted by Quraatulain View Post


    As a hijabi/niqabi I don't see anything wrong with the usage of these terms either.
    Same here.... I don't see whats wrong with them.

    What makes you ask this brother?

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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    A related question...maybe some of the Arab-speaking members can answer it...

    In Arabic do you also use the terms "hijabi" and "niqabi" to label/describe a lady who covers with those pieces of cloth? Or are these decriptive nouns purely a Western Muslim invention?
    It seems a lot of Western sisters have carved out an identity for themselves based on how they dress, whereas the same is not generally true for brothers i.e. it is hard to find a brother who describes himself, or who others describe as "beardy" or "lihyawi"
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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    Quote Originally Posted by muslim forever View Post
    Salaam,



    Same here.... I don't see whats wrong with them.

    What makes you ask this brother?

    Wasalaam
    I believe an acquaintance of mine told me that you should use other terms instead of the above two. The question has been lingering in my mind ever since then.
    Al-Layth said: "If I saw a person of desires (i.e. innovations) walking upon the water I would not accept from him." So Imam as-Shafii then said: "He (al-Layth) has fallen short. If I saw him walking in the air I would not accept from him."

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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    Quote Originally Posted by abdushakur View Post
    A related question...maybe some of the Arab-speaking members can answer it...

    In Arabic do you also use the terms "hijabi" and "niqabi" to label/describe a lady who covers with those pieces of cloth? Or are these decriptive nouns purely a Western Muslim invention?
    It seems a lot of Western sisters have carved out an identity for themselves based on how they dress, whereas the same is not generally true for brothers i.e. it is hard to find a brother who describes himself, or who others describe as "beardy" or "lihyawi"
    Yes, I think this could be one of the reasons. Inshallah someone who knows Arabic well can help out.

    EDIT: I presented your question to a friend of mine. His response:
    no that's a western bid3a
    vieled woman: muhajjaba
    niqabed woman: muntaqiba
    bearded man: multahe
    and generally, any of the above would be referred to as a person who is "multazim" (meaning observant)
    unless it's a bid3a hijab or a merely bedouin niqab
    i.e. hijab worn for fashion or a woman wearing niqab just because that's bedouin culture
    Last edited by ammardiwan; 14-04-2008 at 08:54 PM.
    Al-Layth said: "If I saw a person of desires (i.e. innovations) walking upon the water I would not accept from him." So Imam as-Shafii then said: "He (al-Layth) has fallen short. If I saw him walking in the air I would not accept from him."

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    brother

    I understand where u r coming from and some ppl say it in a degrading manner, but i still take it positive. its my identity and by ppl using such terms no matter what their intention is they recognise who I am i.e. Muslim and thats sth to be proud of.

    so i don't think anyone should mind if someone calls them hijabi aur niqaabi.



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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ifrah View Post
    brother

    I understand where u r coming from and some ppl say it in a degrading manner, but i still take it positive. its my identity and by ppl using such terms no matter what their intention is they recognise who I am i.e. Muslim and thats sth to be proud of.

    so i don't think anyone should mind if someone calls them hijabi aur niqaabi.



    What alternative would you propose?
    Al-Layth said: "If I saw a person of desires (i.e. innovations) walking upon the water I would not accept from him." So Imam as-Shafii then said: "He (al-Layth) has fallen short. If I saw him walking in the air I would not accept from him."

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    Default Re: Calling somone a hijabi/niqabi

    I wouldn't propose an alternative because as I said such terms recognise the sisters and actually give them respect because the hijab and niqab are about respecting women. so even if someone says it in a degrading attiutude its still respecting us.


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