to stun or not to stun ??

[daywalk3r]

Aslmz,

Grateful for some guidance on stunning before slaughtering. i know ive pasted bits here and there before however over the past month have looked into it a bit more i think there are some genuine differences out there.

[Sejuk]

is this a poll?

i vote not.

[daywalk3r]

From looking into it recently here are the differences

OK Stunning:-
SANHA, IFANCA (and ISNA?) (Mufti Sacha Ok's it for Freemans only at present)

NO Stunning:-
HMC. HMC-Canada,

50/50:-
France's AVS don't allow but then again do for some.

NONE above however class it as haraam but makrooh/doubtful. (a number of Ulama do classify the act of stunning as Haram though)

It's a big issue of discussion at present in a number of muslim countries/ulama (and many Halal Certifying Bodies) also I think Mufti Taqi DB advised further thorough research into it (mentioned within his book on the subject)- main issue being if the animal actually dies as a result of it or i think weather stunning is interpreted as "battering" or harming the animal before slaughter ??. Malaysia which does have a good strict halal system (far as i know) allows it also but its very carefully overlooked.

Bristol University has quite an influential Veterinary Science branch which does a lot of research in such practices also possible new EU Directives on slaughtering out soon may have an impact aswell as a new study on Stunning to be released soon in summer?? Dunno if there's similar research done by muslim experts also - most probs yes?

HFA - No stunning if it kills animal - which is possibly ok - however HFA's inspections etc are very very much not existent and hardly has any, or none at all ulama involved (according to GMWA and HMC) - hence very hard to tell because they are so laxed if they really have procedures in place to check/verify if stunning actually kills or even looking at the whole slaughtering process??

To each their own judgement I guess however if such a facility/alternative exists to allow non-stunned then I suppose that's the best route to take for now is it eradicates the doubt??

[Ma'ruf]

Aslmz

Is it really so difficult to write out as-salamu alaikum? I don't like this business of abbreviating or making slang out of the greeting that our din has given us, it seems disrespectful.

[namal]

Salaam
Stunning Before Killing Is Wrong.when It Was Stunned It Is Like A Dead Animal.it Will Be Killed Due To Stunning.
Why Do We Bother To Stun .i Read And Studied Books And Asked Local Scholars About That Topic