Collective du'a after prayer

[Ansari]

Assalaamu Alaykum,

Can anyone mention what most Masajid in UK, Canada, South Africa, Pakistan, Madaris etc. whether they make collective dua after prayer?

Can we for example say that the majority of the Deobandi's perform it and a small minority disallow it?

[not known]

the madarsa cum masjid i go doesnt do collective dua, everyone offers it independently

but other masjids near our house do it

i am still confused of people calling deobandi, bcoz in india i havent seen anything like deobandi masjid or so

bcoz we see it as a madarsa and the madarsa near my home is a branch of hardoi madarsa (dont know its real name) and its no way connected to deoband and many ulema of deoband or bayah on hand of qari amir ul hasan who is from incharge of this madarsa

it seems like people here want to make 'deobandi' a new sect or something

[Ibn Ahmad]

Waalikum'assalam,

Mosque in London where Hanafi Madhab is dominant, do collective Du'a after prayer especially if the Hanafi Imam is from pakistan/India/Bangladesh, born and breed. But some Hanafi mosque dont do collective dua, the imam ususally tend to be born in UK or spent most the imams life in uk: that is my observation. However Most mosque are dominated by Hanafi. I have only prayed in few non-Hanafi mosque and I have NOT seen them doing collective dua. East London mosque Consist of mainly hanafi: All the permanent Imams are hanfi but some of them do not do collective dua.

[Abu Suliman]

There is a Imam in my local area hanafi deobandi who does not make collective dua.Also Shaykh Riyadh Ul haqq does not make collective dua when he leads salah.

[Ansari]

There is a Imam in my local area hanafi deobandi who does not make collective dua.Also Shaykh Riyadh Ul haqq does not make collective dua when he leads salah.

Does this also happen after the friday prayer?

[Abu Suliman]

Does this also happen after the friday prayer?

I know the Imam in my local area also does not make collective dua after friday prayers.

[daywalk3r]

slowly deobandi masjids within the uk are moving towards silent/independant duas after salaat - mostly in my view due to Ibn Ahmed's post before that those masjids now slowly starting to bring in scholars born and bred (or mainly bred) in the UK are inclined to the silent/individual dua wheres those masjids with imams from indo/pak still do it collectively and loudly though even few amongst them are moving towards silent/independent duas now

mashallah mufti saeed palunpuri (may allah preserve him) has a kinda unique light hearted manner in which he sometimes explains the benefits of silent/independent duas after congregational prayer - i cant remember what he said what the practice is in darul loom deoband itself where he teaches.

some masjid committees do force their imams to do loud long duas though on certain occasions

[Ibn Ahmad]

it seems like people here want to make 'deobandi' a new sect or something

We should just call them Hanafi. Otherwise in 200 years time it might turnout to be another madhab/sect like wahabis. New madhabs likely to have more error in ijtihad. Deobondi, does it have anything to do with nationalism?

some masjid committees do force their imams to do loud long duas though on certain occasions

Its true. Somtime Imam's job is under threat due to that. Most mosque commitees are made of people who have very little understanding of their own madhab (hanafi). Therefore, if an imam doesn't do collective dua, they immediately think think imam is salafi and Madhabism kicks in.

[mosa707]

Brother ansari, i am from singapore and all masjids imam here make collective dua.

As for friday dua, i found this hadith

‘Umaarah ibn Ru’aybah saw Bishr ibn Marwaan on the minbar raising his hands (Abu Dawood added: when he was making dua’a on Friday), and he said,

“May Allah make these two hands ugly. I saw the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) doing no more than this with his hand,” and he gestured with his forefinger.

Is this referring to collective dua? And also is it sunnah to point with forefinger during friday jumaah dua? The knowledgeable brothers, please reply.

[not known]

Deobondi, does it have anything to do with nationalism?

Darul uloom deoband was basically formed for jihad against the british rule in india, jamiat-e-ulema e hind(india) which was formed by moulana abul kalam azad rah played a great role in it. later after independence this jamath became seperate and deoband madarsa concentrated only on islamic studies. till now this jamath is present and its chairman is Arshad madani sahab who is from head ulema of deoband