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    Just a quick question(s), on the day of Nikah, after the signing of the Nikah form can we hold a dinner banquet the same night so that over a 100 people can eat as an example (meaning can this be considered Walima)? Or does the Walima require that the wife and husband have to eat together and on another day?



    Ps. Hanafi or Shafi fiqh preferable, though Maliki/Hanbali opinion is just fine.
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    Hanafi Answer:
    In order for the Walimah to be valid, it must be held after the couple "consumate" the marriage. This would take place by them being in privacy for a few minutes.

    The sunnah practice was that the walimah would be held the day after the marriage, however if one does have it on the same night- after the couple spend time together in privacy- it would be ok, especially as, nowadays having it the next day leads to a host of other expenses, the incurring of which is completely contrary to the spirit and sunnah of marriage.

    And Allah Ta'ala knows best
    Sahabah رضي الله عنهم would cling fast to the Sunnah, on account of it being Sunnah, while we discard the Sunnah, on account of it being (just) Sunnah!

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    soofi_saheb

    I was reading up on this...

    SunniPath: The Fiqh of Walimas

    I wanted to get your opinion on this statement:

    "Having said this, scholars mention that there is also scope in following the other opinions, thus if one had a Walima before consummation, it is hoped that one will gain the reward of Sunna."

    The thing is my wife and I did our Nikah ceromony but held it in a banquet and fed around a hundred back home in Pakistan right after we signed the Nikah Nama. We did not consumate the marriage (as I had to get back to Canada and to sponsor her), though I have been alone with her a few times around eight months after the Nikah (it was not exactly a wedding night thing) and I am wondering if I would still have to do a Walima regardless or could other opinions be taken?
    Abu Sa’id (ra) said that Rasullilah (salalahi alahi wasalam) said, “Whoever says:

    Radeetu billahi rabban, wa bil-Islaami deenan, wa bi-Muhammadin rasoolan

    Jannah becomes obligatory for him (to enter).
    [Abu-Dawud]

    - Best said in Morning and Evening with "Nabiyan wa rasoolan"


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    Due to the difference, one could hope for the reward of the sunnah, however the ideal would be that you hold a small walimah, in order to fulfil the sunnah.

    As soon as she officially comes to stay with you, hold a small walimah, inviting a few friends.
    There is absolutely no need for a huge function.

    And Allah Ta'ala knows best
    Sahabah رضي الله عنهم would cling fast to the Sunnah, on account of it being Sunnah, while we discard the Sunnah, on account of it being (just) Sunnah!

    Formerly "soofi_saheb"


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    Default Re: Regarding Walima and Nikah on same day

    i just want to ask that if it is necessary to spend nite before waleema?


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    Default Re: Regarding Walima and Nikah on same day

    Not necessary.

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    إلا وحبك مقرون بأنفاسي

    ولاجلست مع قوم أحدثهم
    إلا وأنت حديثي بين جلاسي


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    Default Re: Regarding Walima and Nikah on same day

    Can a valima be held a few years after Nikkah? or even 17 years after?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husain View Post


    Hanafi Answer:
    In order for the Walimah to be valid, it must be held after the couple "consumate" the marriage. This would take place by them being in privacy for a few minutes.

    The sunnah practice was that the walimah would be held the day after the marriage, however if one does have it on the same night- after the couple spend time together in privacy- it would be ok, especially as, nowadays having it the next day leads to a host of other expenses, the incurring of which is completely contrary to the spirit and sunnah of marriage.

    And Allah Ta'ala knows best
    With due respect, i am not sure if this the hanafi opinion. And I would surprised be if it is the opinion of any imam that the validity of waleema lies on ''consummation' of marriage.

    This is the Darul Uloom Deoband Fatwa which is against the above statement

    http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuse...&all=en&id=377


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    Default Re: Regarding Walima and Nikah on same day

    I had posted a similar thread, will this be useful.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=valima

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    Default Re: Regarding Walima and Nikah on same day

    Quote Originally Posted by ahamed_sharif View Post
    I had posted a similar thread, will this be useful.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=valima
    JazakAllah brother ahamed sharif, i already downloaded the fatwa from a blog. I didn't know it was you who originally posted it. JazakAllah. Actually, i am getting married in few months from now and I want to end this evil custom of Baraat and hence i want to do waleema right after nikah. Ironically, my would be in-laws are Deobandi and still appear reluctant to it. Can you please let me know you have taken this fatwa from which book/author, so that i could quote the same
    Last edited by Shaad.h; 28-05-2013 at 08:00 AM.


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