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    Default Do Wahhabis follow the hanbali madhab?

    The title speaks for itself.


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    as salamu alaykum

    they claim to - whether they actally follow the dominant opinions of the hanbali school which are not necessarily the opinions of ibn taymiyya or muhammad ibn abdul wahhab is another matter.

    that being said, most tend to say they are hanbali, but not by blind following, rather following the texts and going against the school if the text shows otherwise - thats the usual salafi response...


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    The title speaks for itself.
    Yes, the Saudi Hanbalis, who are often referred to as wahabis, tend to follow the Hanbali Fiqh. Fiqh Hanbali does not stand on just one opinion in many cases (eg. witr bi salamayn, or witr bi salaman wahid etc.) Therefore, the pathless tend to get mixed among them.

    For more information about Orthodox Hanbali Fiqh, please refer to :

    Hanbali Text Society
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    Last edited by Usman; 13-02-2005 at 09:38 AM. Reason: extra e
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

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    I was wondering if the classical Hanbali aqeedah regarding the sifaat of Allah is same as the modern-day Salafi aqeedah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by iqadeer
    I was wondering if the classical Hanbali aqeedah regarding the sifaat of Allah is same as the modern-day Salafi aqeedah?
    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3075


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    Jazak Allah for the link. It was very informative, especially links to Shaykh Nuh's articles.


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    Please do not use the term 'Wahhabi', for al-Wahhab is one of the names of Allah, Glorified and Exalted be He. If you wish to refer to the Salafis, then the term 'Salafi' should be enough insha'Allah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaxerian
    Please do not use the term 'Wahhabi', for al-Wahhab is one of the names of Allah, Glorified and Exalted be He. If you wish to refer to the Salafis, then the term 'Salafi' should be enough insha'Allah.
    The Term wahabi, over here, is being used for the followers of the Fiqh Hanbali, who were according to the ways of Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab. If this is the case, then first off, let's start by stop calling the followers of Fiqh of Imam Malik as "Malikis" , مالك يوم الدين.

    P.S : Wahabi and Salafi are two different groups, as mentioned before.
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman
    If this is the case, then first off, let's start by stop calling the followers of Fiqh of Imam Malik as "Malikis" , مالك يوم الدين.


    That is the madhab people call to correct, so what is the appropriate way to say it then? Shall we just shorten all of the fitnah and keep it as muslim or what? or will just ascribe it to our last names like other muslims who add the name al-athari, as-salafi, hanafi, hanbali etc
    Quote Originally Posted by Usman
    P.S : Wahabi and Salafi are two different groups, as mentioned before.
    Uh, that word has been used as a interchangeable part
    Ibrahim al-Harbi said, ‘I heard Ahmad Ibn Hanbal say, ‘If you love that Allah should keep you upon that which you love, then remain upon that which He loves, and the good is in the one who sees no good in himself.”

    Refer to al-adab shariah (2/31) by Ibn Muflih


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    That is the madhab people call to correct, so what is the appropriate way to say it then? Shall we just shorten all of the fitnah and keep it as muslim or what? or will just ascribe it to our last names like other muslims who add the name al-athari, as-salafi, hanafi, hanbali etc
    Please read the thread completely.

    Uh, that word has been used as a interchangeable part
    Wahabis are Hanbali, while so-called salafis(pathless) have no madhab, they tend to follow everyone who differs with either Imam Abu Hanifah(Rahimahullah), or the schools of jurisprudence, no offense.

    Shah Ismaeel Shaheed Al-Hanafi [Rahimahullah] was the first person in the Indian Subcontinent, to be called a wahabi. Therefore, the interchangable thing is baseless. The leader of the pathless, Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan -[although, he was neither a nawab,nor was he a khan,just to add] - even wrote a complete book against Wahabism, it's name was "Tarjuman-e-Wahabiyah". It should be noted that Mr.Siddiq Hasan khan was among the forefathers of the "Ahl-e-Hadeeth" sect in the subcontinent , in his book "Tarjuman-e-Wahabiya" he states :

    چنانچہ لیفٹنینٹ گورنرصاحب بہادر موصوف نے اس درخواست کو منظور کیا اور پھر ایک اشتہار اس مضمون کا دیا گیا کہ موحدین ہند(غیر مقلد) پر شبہ بدخواہی گورنمنٹ ہند عامۃ نہ ہو، خصوصاً جو لوگ وہابیانِ ملک ہزارہ سے نفرت رکھتے ہوں اور گورنمنٹ ہند کے خیر خواہ ہوں، ایسے موحدین مخاطب یہ وہابی نہ ہوں۔

    "Therefore Liutenent Governor Mr.Bahadur accepted the application, and an ad over the subject was given, that the Monotheists of India(ahle-hadeeth Jamaat) should not be considered as bad-thinkers for the Indian government in general, especially those, who hate the WAHABIS of Hazarah and have good intentions for the indian government, should not be called "Wahabi"."
    (Tarjuman-e-Wahabiyah, Page 62)

    this is just a piece of bread for the breakfast.
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

    بُھلےؔ شاہؔ


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