75% of new-muslims leave Islam after some years in the US (?)

[Habib1968]

Salam alaikoum ;

I came across this video and was very surprised ; can some brothers or sisters in the US maybe give some opinions on this topic ?


http://video.google.fr/videoplay?doc...3218&ei=&hl=fr

To hear the complet speech :

http://www.radioislam.com/_asx/Publi...ynewmleave.asx


Jazakallah khayr

[~*Nomadic Woman*~]

I have met one such convert who left Islam. I have no idea if he made his way back.

I have also come across others who came close to leaving.

the consistent pattern ..?

Harsh interpretation of Islam...and people being too judgmental...thus scaring people away from the deen :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[abulayl]

i would say they cant pass the exam of allah and probabely seems hard for them whole situation and environment after accepting islam.

[marco100]

i would say they cant pass the exam of allah and probabely seems hard for them whole situation and environment after accepting islam.

It's all about the environment. Take a fish out of water and it'll struggle to breathe.

I guess all those thousands of reverts who are still going strong mashallah have no problems with the "harsh" interpretation of Islam which has been there for hundreds of years. I guess Islam needs a reformation to be more palatable to new muslims in the opinion of some of our more enlightened posters here....What strange times we live in...

[dhameera]

I have met one such convert who left Islam. I have no idea if he made his way back.

I have also come across others who came close to leaving.

the consistent pattern ..?

Harsh interpretation of Islam...and people being too judgmental...thus scaring people away from the deen :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

Exactly!

I can attest to this personally.

For example, there was a friend of the family we had sometime awhile back who was a revert and new to Islam.

Back then me and my family were apart of the tariqah. Being new to Islam, he talked to our sheikh who then dumped tonnnssss of responsibility on him.

Not just the obligatory prayers, but the wazifah every night, a million zikr's so you can receive a billion blessings, more than the 5 daily prayers, and a whole host of other things I can name.

He stayed on with us for maybe three yrs...it took it's tole...and he left to go to the Nation of Islam.


It has nothing to with people not being able to cut it...because Allah makes the believers. It has to do with certain groups making things obligatory in this religion which isn't! Like I heard one brother say sufism is obligatory...I'm just like wth..are you serious!?

People get things so twisted, when Allah says himself, he does not want to put us through difficulty, and Rasulullah further reiterated by saying the best of deeds in the sight of Allah (s.w.t) are done regularly and constantly, no matter how small...so start small and work your way up

[jacki]

I would guess that it has little to do with difficult obligations, and more to do with the feelings of isolation and loneliness that MANY converts experience.

The masajid are not equipped to deal with converts. Most of them have no plan or program for converts and just expect converts to figure it all out on their own.

Muslims rejoice when someone says shahada, but after the excitement dies down and the convert is often alone. Many mosques are unfriendly -- no one welcomes newcomers or greets people as they step into the mosque. Brothers and sisters dare not say salam to each other. No one goes out of their way to include a person who is there alone. A convert without any Muslim family may only come into contact with other Muslims at the mosque -- and those Muslims may barely even talk to the convert.

The convert gives up his non-halal activities -- and with that often comes strained relationships with former friends. As the convert gets more and more into Islam, he/she often finds less and less in common with former friends until they are out of the picture altogether. Without having made good Muslim friends, the convert has no one to spend time with, no one to just hang with.

When the convert is around Muslims, they often want to teach the convert about Islam. Their hearts are in the right place, but they don't realize that this can become overwhelming for the convert who may just want to relax and enjoy people's company without turning every meeting into a halaqa.

Where do the convert spend the Eid holidays? With whom do they break fast during Ramadhan? If they haven't made a close Muslim friend who takes them in, they do these things alone.

I could go on and on... but you get the point.

[marco100]

I would guess that it has little to do with difficult obligations, and more to do with the feelings of isolation and loneliness that MANY converts experience.

The masajid are not equipped to deal with converts. Most of them have no plan or program for converts and just expect converts to figure it all out on their own.

Muslims rejoice when someone says shahada, but after the excitement dies down and the convert is often alone. Many mosques are unfriendly -- no one welcomes newcomers or greets people as they step into the mosque. Brothers and sisters dare not say salam to each other. No one goes out of their way to include a person who is there alone. A convert without any Muslim family may only come into contact with other Muslims at the mosque -- and those Muslims may barely even talk to the convert.

The convert gives up his non-halal activities -- and with that often comes strained relationships with former friends. As the convert gets more and more into Islam, he/she often finds less and less in common with former friends until they are out of the picture altogether. Without having made good Muslim friends, the convert has no one to spend time with, no one to just hang with.

When the convert is around Muslims, they often want to teach the convert about Islam. Their hearts are in the right place, but they don't realize that this can become overwhelming for the convert who may just want to relax and enjoy people's company without turning every meeting into a halaqa.

Where do the convert spend the Eid holidays? With whom do they break fast during Ramadhan? If they haven't made a close Muslim friend who takes them in, they do these things alone.

I could go on and on... but you get the point.

They come on sunniforum of course!

[Sunni_Student786]

I agree with you post jacki.

You've hit the nail on the head.

[~*Nomadic Woman*~]

Exactly!

I can attest to this personally.

For example, there was a friend of the family we had sometime awhile back who was a revert and new to Islam.

Back then me and my family were apart of the tariqah. Being new to Islam, he talked to our sheikh who then dumped tonnnssss of responsibility on him.

Not just the obligatory prayers, but the wazifah every night, a million zikr's so you can receive a billion blessings, more than the 5 daily prayers, and a whole host of other things I can name.

He stayed on with us for maybe three yrs...it took it's tole...and he left to go to the Nation of Islam.


It has nothing to with people not being able to cut it...because Allah makes the believers. It has to do with certain groups making things obligatory in this religion which isn't! Like I heard one brother say sufism is obligatory...I'm just like wth..are you serious!?

People get things so twisted, when Allah says himself, he does not want to put us through difficulty, and Rasulullah further reiterated by saying the best of deeds in the sight of Allah (s.w.t) are done regularly and constantly, no matter how small...so start small and work your way up

inaaaaaaaaalillah wa inna ilayhi rajo'oun

I hate those people

[IbnShafiq]

inaaaaaaaaalillah wa inna ilayhi rajo'oun

I hate those people

sister are you sister scents of paradise? You have a similar tone and your location is the same