Can Allah do all things?

[J.M.]

In the Bible we are told that God can not tell a lie because it's against His nature, but I've also seen Muslims claim that Allah can lie, can Allah do all things?

[Nothing]

Brother I would like you to read the following message below which was posted out one of the other questions in the forum.
You answer is right at the end. in the purple section.

The Holy Prophet (saw) said :
The Jews split into 71 groups, one will enter paradise and 70 will enter Hell. The Christians split into 72 groups , 71 will enter Hell and 1 will enter Paradise.
By Him in Whose Power is my life, without doubt, my Ummah will be divided into 73 groups. Only one will enter Paradise and 72 will enter Hell.
( Ibne Majah, Kitab al-Fitan)

U know sister Zainab
What it means by the above saying

The Holy Prophet(sawas)is actually saying:

The 1 set of jews are The muslims from the time of Moses (as) who believed in Islam and all prophets(as) from Adam(as) and Holy Prophet Muhammed (sawas) as the Last Prophet to Come.They are known only as jews because people from the time of moses(as) are known as jews, otherwise They were True Muslims.

(The rest 70 are going to Hell because they did not believe in the true message Moses(as) revealed which was There is No GOD but ALLAH, Moses(as) is the Prophet of ALLAH and Muhammed(sawas) is the final messenger to come.

I;e theres one set of non-muslim jews who started worshipping the golden calf instead, and they changed the Holy Book which was reveled to Moses(as).

The 1 set of Christians are The muslims from the time of Jesus (as) who believed in Islam and all prophets(as) from Adam(as) and Holy Prophet Muhammed (sawas) as the Last Prophet to Come.They are known only as Christians because people from the time of Jesus(as) are known as Christians, otherwise They were True Muslims.

(The rest 71 are going to Hell because they did not believe in the true message Jesus(as) revealed which was There is No GOD but ALLAH, Jesus is the Prophet(sawas) of ALLAH and Muhammed is the final messenger to come.

I;e theres one set of non-muslim Christians who started worshipping Jesus Instead, and many took three Gods instead of One, and many started believing Jesus(as) is Son of God ( God Forbid), and christians also changed the text of the Holy Bibal from its true form)

Finally the One set of Muslims
The one set of Muslims The holy Prophet(sawas) is talking about are the muslims who belive THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH and MUHAMMED(sawas) is the MESSENGER OF ALLAH.This group of muslims have followed the true teachings of the Holy Prophet(saws) they have neither changed a single meaning of the Holy Quran, neither changed a single doing or talking of the Holy Prophet(sawas) they believe exactly in the message that was delivered to him and send saluations on him, they belive in his existance and his mercy over us , and they belive Muhammed (sawas) is the BEST CREATION of ALLAH), This Group of People call themselves the Ahle Sunnat Muslims.


(The rest 72 are going to Hell because they changed some of the sayings of the Holy prophet(sawas) or talk ill about him, or take other i;e one of his companions greater then him, or forge lies against ALLAH and his Messenger, they call them selves muslims or from the ahle sunnat muslims just to twist peoples mind but many are actually munafiks and not from the ahle sunnat Muslims, even though they say there is no God But ALLAH and Muhammad(sawas) is the messenger of ALLAH,

There is many things they have taken out from islam , or changed its form just to make themselves more highly known, Since this is a Sunni Site: I do not mind taking names of some of these groups so you are aware - They are Shia's, wahabis, ahmadiyas, qadyanis, rabuas, ahle-hadith, and many more but these are some of the major ones these are some of the following things they may believe and they turn innocent minds into beliveing in extreme things about islam which is not true, i;e terrorism, To belive the Holy Prophet(sawas) lied, or commited sin, to forge lies against his wives, to not belive the Holy Prophet(sawas) as present and alive(when this is in the Quran), to not send salutations upon him (when this is in the Quran), to belive someone else a greater creation then the Holy Prophet(Sawas) i;e the Shia's take Hadrat Ali(as) greater then the Holy Prophet, actually According to Ahle sunnat Hadhrat Ali(as) was a great companion of the Prophet(sawas) and very much loved by him just like all his other great companions, These sects also disrespect and forge lies against other great companions of the Holy Prophet(sawas) and much more false things.one should never listen to these people as they have misguided many and made Islam known as a terrorist religion, when infact the TRUE ISLAM IS WHAT OUR BELOVED MUHAMMED(sawas) HAS REVEALED TO US, IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL THAT IF ONE LOOKS DEEP INSIDE IT THE LIGHT WILL CONQUER THE PERSONS ENTIRE MIND,SOUL AND HEART.

The above paragraph also includes your answer -some of these sects even forge lies against ALLAH, BUT ALLAH NEVER LIES HE IS THE SUPREME AND THE SUPREME CANNOT LIE AND IT IS A SIN FOR A MUSLIM TO THINK SUCH THINGS, NOT ONLY MUSLIMS ANY ONE TO THINK SUCH THINGS ABOUT ALLAH ONE MUST ALWAYS THINK ONLY GOOD ABOUT ALLAH BECAUSE ALLAH ONLY MADE THIS UNIVERSE FOR GOOD AND FOR HIS CREATION TO WORSHIP NONE BUT HIM.

BUT HE GAVE JINS AND HUMANS FREE WILL THIS MEANS THEY COULD DO WHAT EVER ACT THEY LIKE, THE DEVIL WAS ONCE ALSO A GREAT WORSHIPPER OF ALLAH IT WAS HIS FREE WILL WHICH WAS FULL OF PRIDE THAT MADE HIM DISOBEY ALLAHS COMMAND WHEN ALLAH ORDERED HIM TO PAY RESPECT TO ADAM(AS), THE DEVIL SHOWED PRIDE AND SAID WHY SHOULD HE PAY RESPECT TO DUST WHEN HE THE DEVIL IS MADE OF FIRE AND THIS HE BELIEVED MADE HIM GREATER, DUE TO THIS PRIDE AND DISOBIDIENCE, FROM HERE ONWARDS HE WAS MADE KNOWN AS THE DEVIL BY ALLAH, AND UPTILL TODAY AND TILL DAY OF JUDGEMENT HE WILL BE WISPERING EVIL INTO TO THE HUMANS MINDS SO THEY TURN AWAY FROM ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET(SAWAS). ALSO FROM THIS WE CAN TAKE WHEN ALLAH ORDERED THE OTHER CREATIONS I;e THE ANGELS AND JINS TO PAY RESPECT TO ADAM(as) ALL DID EXCEPT THE DEVIL, WHY NOT THE ANGELS THAT IS BECAUSE THE ANGELS DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL, THEY CAN ONLY DO AS ALLAH HAS PRESCRIBED FOR THEM, NOW DO YOU THINK IF THE ANGELS NEVER TELLS A LIE OR DOES ANY SIN , WHO GIVES US THE RIGHTS TO THINK SUCH DEVILISH THOUGHTS ABOUT ALLAH <ALLAH DID NOT COMMAND,THIS IS OUR OWN THOUGHTS OUR OWN EVIL SUGGESTIONS AND WISPERS FROM THE DEVIL AND HIS FRIENDS.

WHY DO YOU THINK ALLAH SEND SO MANY MESSENGERS , JUST TO GUIDE US THIS ENTIRE LIFE IS A TEST JUST A TEST WE HAVE TO EARN OUR WAY TO HEAVEN , IT CANNOT JUST BE GRANTED IF YOU THINK SUCH EVEILi;e they lie or what ever evil people think, ABOUT ALLAH(GOD) OR HIS PROPHETS(AS) OR PIOUS PEOPLE.
know can I ask you a Question.

You stated that christians believe that GOD never lies, Then why have they changed the verses in the bible and said that It is reveled from GOD, Definately GOD never lies then why do christians not believe the true message Jesus(As) reveaed to his followers , why? why do christians say the God said Jesus (as) is son when God did not say, why do christians Say Jesus is GOD When Jesus(as)said he is only a prophet of GOD, why do they forge lies and say GOD said this and that , when the truth is what Jesus (as) said and was revealed from GOD.Why do christians make up their own verses in the bible, why do they say holy Mother Mary(As) GOD and Jesus(as) are a family why?why do they say we are GODS children when he had no relationship like that? Why do they say this when GOD did not Say this.Why do they say all this lie against GOD when GOD said: I AM ALONE AND I HAVE NO SON OR DAUGHTER, I AM ONLY TO WORSHIPPED AND NONE ELSE IS TO BE WORSHIPPED OTHER THEN ME.

[J.M.]

I don't understand the flow of logic in the last paragraph or the connection you're making between God not lying and Christians being a bunch of liars. Your statements are based on an assumption, the assumption that the Bible has been corrupted. This is a Muslim forum and I'm only a guest, I'm not interested in arguing or chasing rabbit trails, just learning about Islam.

Thank you for your help so far.

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What else can Allah not do, such as lie, that would be similar to the Christian concept of God? I'm trying to find connections.

[Nothing]

Brother , You are not reading clearly thats why you are unable to understand
Im not arguing either , read carefully

Im not saying christians are bunch of liars what im trying to say is how some so called muslims forges lies against allah This is what Im explaining, now you cannot say that all muslims CALL ALLAH a Lier,
So just like Some people in chritianity forge lie against GOD, there are SO CALLED MUSLIMS WHO ALSO FORGE LIE AGAINST ALLAH WHICH IS NOT TRUE, These people are known as hypocrits in ISLAM.

My answer is pretty straight forward read it with your heart rather then your mind.

[J.M.]

Brother , You are not reading clearly thats why you are unable to understand
Im not arguing either , read carefully

Im not saying christians are bunch of liars what im trying to say is how some so called muslims forges lies against allah This is what Im explaining, now you cannot say that all muslims CALL ALLAH a Lier,
So just like Some people in chritianity forge lie against GOD, there are SO CALLED MUSLIMS WHO ALSO FORGE LIE AGAINST ALLAH WHICH IS NOT TRUE, These people are known as hypocrits in ISLAM.

My answer is pretty straight forward read it with your heart rather then your mind.

Ahhhhh, got it. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Amr]

In the Bible we are told that God can not tell a lie because it's against His nature, but I've also seen Muslims claim that Allah can lie, can Allah do all things?

Hi J.M.

The last time I remember being asked this question by a Christian was more than 20 years ago, and his point was that, well, if Allah can do all things then He most certainly can create for Himself a son.

The answer that Muslims provide to this question is that there are certain realities that do not and will not ever change. These can be termed immutable realities. For example, Allah will never cease to exist but will always continue to exist. This reality can never and will never change. Another immutable reality for Muslims is that the Absolute Unity of Allah can never change. It is not posible for Allah to be One God and then all of a sudden be three in one. You might say that for Christians He was three in one from the beginning. Our answer to that is, well, that is how it is for the Christians, and also why do we not find the concept of a trinity in the Old Testament esp. in the sense of God the father, God the son and God the holy ghost. Also, the "divinity" of Jesus (may Allah's peace be upon him) was something that was decided on in a series of Ecumenical Councils in Nicaea roundabout the 4th century. Then there was also the Filioque ("and the Son") controversy and why that controversy came about. So for Muslims this would ammount to a change of an immutable absolute reality - a reality that abosultely does not and categorically will not change.

Another absolute reality is that Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'alaa) cannot become less than what He is whether in His Essence or in His Attributes. He is Absolutely Perfect in His Essence and His Attributes. So if Allah tells us in the Qur'an that sleep nor slumber can overtake Him, then it would not make sense to ask if Allah CAN make Himself do these acts of mortal human beings. Such a question does not feature for us. In fact, it would be regarded as absurd, because it would be absurd for these immutable absolute realities to change.

Likewise, it is an immutable absolute reality that Allah cannot have someone before Him, because He has no beginning, and it would be absurd to ask: Can Allah create for Himself a father (تعالى الله عن ذلك علوًّا كبيرًا)? for a father presupposes that the son must come after, and must have a beginning let alone a beginning after the father. The bottomline is that Allah is the Absolute Truth who has not and will not ever change whether it be in His Holy Essence or His Perfect Attributes.

So as Muslims we say that Allah has power over everything as He affirms in the Qur'an but immutable absolute realities like the ones mentioned above can never and will never change.

As to the question whether or not Allah can lie from an Islamic perspective? You said that the Bible says that God cannot tell a lie because it is against His nature. Now I will quote you the following verses from among many verses, and you decide for yourself:

اللَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ لَيَجْمَعَنَّكُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهِ وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللَّهِ حَدِيثًا

[87] Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Surely, He will gather you together on the Day of Resurrection about which there is no doubt. And who is truer in statement than Allâh? (Surah 4:87)

And later in the same chapter it says:

وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ سَنُدْخِلُهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقًّا وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللَّهِ قِيلًا

[122] But those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) and do deeds of righteousness, We shall admit them to the Gardens under which rivers flow (i.e. in Paradise) to dwell therein forever. Allâh's Promise is the Truth; and whose words can be truer than those of Allâh? (Of course, none).

وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقاً وَعَدْلاً لاَّ مُبَدِّلِ لِكَلِمَاتِهِ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower. (Surah 6:115)

Also, one of Allah's Most Beautiful Names is الحقّ (the Absolute Truth), and many verses not only call Him, the Truth, but also describe Him as such:

هُنَالِكَ تَبْلُو كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَا أَسْلَفَتْ وَرُدُّوا إِلَى اللَّهِ مَوْلَاهُمُ الْحَقِّ وَضَلَّ عَنْهُمْ مَا كَانُوا يَفْتَرُونَ

(Ever soul will realise (there and then) what it did in the past. And they will be returned to their True Lord, and their invented gods will desert them.)(Surah Jonah: 30)

and a little later in the same Surah this very powerful verse:

فَذَلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبُّكُمُ الْحَقُّ فَمَاذَا بَعْدَ الْحَقِّ إِلا الضَّلالُ فَأَنَّى تُصْرَفُونَ
(That is Allah, your Lord, the Truth. So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?) (Surah Jonah:32)

فَتَعَالَى اللَّهُ الْمَلِكُ الْحَقُّ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ رَبُّ الْعَرْشِ الْكَرِيمِ
[116] So Exalted is Allâh, the True King: Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne! (Surah 23:116)

and in Surah Luqman verse 30:

ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْحَقُّ وَأَنَّ مَا يَدْعُونَ مِنْ دُونِهِ الْبَاطِلُ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْكَبِيرُ
That is because Allâh, He is the Truth, and that which they invoke besides Him is false; and that Allâh, He is the Most High, the Most Great.

These verses point out that Allah is the Absolute Truth - a Truth that is opposite to everything that is and represents falsehood. So it is not conceivable that Falsehood can ever emanate from the Absolute Truth.

If anything Muslims always say: صدق الله العظيم (Allah the Magnificent has spoken the truth) or وقولك الحق (and Your Word is the Truth)

Finally, the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), when he got up at night to offer the vigil / night prayer, he used to say:

(O Allah! All the praises are for you, You are the Holder of the Heavens and the Earth, And whatever is in them. All the praises are for You; You have the possession of the Heavens and the Earth And whatever is in them. All the praises are for You; You are the Light of the Heavens and the Earth And all the praises are for You; You are the King of the Heavens and the Earth; And all the praises are for You; You are the Truth and Your Promise is the truth, And to meet You is true, Your Word is the truth And Paradise is true And Hell is true And all the Prophets (Peace be upon them) are true; And Muhammad is true, And the Day of Resurrection is true. O Allah ! I surrender (my will) to You; I believe in You and depend on You. And repent to You, And with Your help I argue (with my opponents, the non-believers) And I take You as a judge (to judge between us). Please forgive me my previous And future sins; And whatever I concealed or revealed And You are the One who make (some people) forward And (some) backward. There is none to be worshipped but you . Sufyan said that 'Abdul Karim Abu Umaiya added to the above, 'Wala haula Wala quwata illa billah' (There is neither might nor power except with Allah). (from al-Bukhari)

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was known as the al-Sadiq al-Amin (the Truthful and the Trustworty). He never told a lie in his entire life, not even when he made a joke. Does that say something about his Lord, the Creator, who Muslims believe shaped and molded the character of the Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) أدبني ربي فأحسن تأديبي .

The above points have been argued differently by other Muslim brothers and sisters, but the conclusion is nevertheless the same which is what I've demonstrated above.

I'll conclude here, I hope that answers your question.

فَذَلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبُّكُمُ الْحَقُّ فَمَاذَا بَعْدَ الْحَقِّ إِلا الضَّلالُ فَأَنَّى تُصْرَفُونَ
(That is Allah, your Lord, the Truth. So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?) (Surah Jonah:32)

[Nothing]

Nailed it AMR very nice ,like the quranic references

J.M you know i know many non-mulims have alot of questions about certain things in Islam, but I just want to tell you brother dont read what ever info you find on Islam the true ISLAM is very different to what eveil people say about it,

Read the holy Quran or I;e information from a true Islamic source, there are also some sites and info written by non-muslims and some are written by
people who claim to be pious muslims when they are not and infact they are just ruining other people.

Its good that you asking questions like these this will clear your mind and also other peoples mind about what islam actually believes

[godilali]

"
The answer involves the concept of al-wajib al-'aradi or "the contingently necessary," which is part of traditional Islamic aqida (tenets of faith), and hence well known to scholars like Ibn al-`Arabi and Abd al-Qadir, but perhaps not familiar to many contemporary Muslims. It is arguably among the most important points one can learn from classical works of aqida.

The possible or impossible for Allah Most High involves the divine attribute of qudra or omnipotence, "what He can do". This attribute in turn relates exclusively to the intrinsically possible, not to what is intrinsically impossible, as Allah says, "Verily Allah has power over every thing" (Qur'an 20:29), "thing" being something that in principle can exist. For example, if one asks "Can Allah create square circle?" the answer is that His omnipotence does not relate to it, for a square circle does not refer to anything that in principle could exist: the speaker does not have a distinct idea of what he means, but is merely using a jumble of words.

Similarly, if one were to ask, "Can Allah terminate His own existence?" the answer is that the divine omnipotence does not relate to this; it is intrinsically impossible (mustahil dhati), for the divine nature necessarily entails the divine perfections, of which Being is one. It is impossible that Allah could cease to have this perfection or any other, for otherwise He would not be God.

There are thus things that are necessarily true of God (that He cannot not be); and their opposites, things which are necessarily impossible of God. In terms of the question above, the choice to forgive everyone, that is, to simply suspend the implications of the Qur'anic verses and hadiths that indicate that some classes of people will never leave hell, is not intrinsically impossible (mustahil dhati) for Allah, in that it does not involve something inherently impossible as does the square circle, or negate something inherently true by the very nature of the Divine. Then why didn't any scholar ever think of it? Because for Islamic orthodoxy, there is another class of both the necessary and the impossible that the divine attribute of omnipotence (qudra) has no relation to; namely, that which is necessary or impossible because, although not so a priori, it has become necessary or impossible by being connected with the knowledge ('ilm) of Allah and His beginninglessly eternal attribute of speech, in His informing us of it.

For example, Abu Lahab was born with apparently the same chance as anyone to hear the Prophet's message (Allah bless him and give him peace), enter Islam, and reach paradise. But when he persecuted the Muslims, and surat al-Masad (Qur'an 111) was subsequently revealed, and Allah manifested His beginninglessly eternal knowledge that Abu Lahab was of the people of hell. Although initially this outcome was merely contingent and possible, when the eternal Word of Allah connected with it, it became necessary, final, and inabrogable, for Allah only informs of what is in His knowledge, and His knowledge only conforms to what truly is, which is why no one alters the words of Allah (Qur'an 6:34), for otherwise His words would express ignorance, an attribute impossible for God, or lies, which equally contradict the nature of the Divine.

Abu Lahab is thus necessarily of the people of hell, necessary not logically or inherently, but contingently necessary, because of the contingent event of Allah having informed us of it. Everything that Allah has informed us of is of this class of thing, and divine omnipotence (qudra) does not relate to their contrary, for His Word shall be realized exactly as He has said, and it is impossible that any of it be nullified.
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http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/amat.htm

[J.M.]

I just wanted to touch on a few fact points that caught my attention and should only be understood as an effort at dialogue.

The council of Nicaea was not a council where Christ was declared divine or the Church got together to decide if Jesus was divine, it was to settle a dispute about the nature of Christ. The Arians also believed Jesus was divine but of a different substance then God the Father, the Arians still believed that Christ was fully divine. It was about the hypostatic union [presence of both human and divine natures in Jesus Christ ] or the revealed substance of God in the incarnation.

The Filioque controversy was important in maintaining the distinction of the three in Trinitarian monotheism, there is no claim that Christ would be before the Father or the Spirit since they are in being one and in persons three. John 15:26

Nothing, thank you for the advice. I’m in this forum doing my best to learn a faith I disagree with. I’m trying to be honest in my study.

godilali

I had to read your post twice and didn’t realize model logic was a tenet of Islamic faith.

Thank you all.

JM

[Amr]

I just wanted to touch on a few fact points that caught my attention and should only be understood as an effort at dialogue.

The council of Nicaea was not a council where Christ was declared divine or the Church got together to decide if Jesus was divine, it was to settle a dispute about the nature of Christ. The Arians also believed Jesus was divine but of a different substance then God the Father, the Arians still believed that Christ was fully divine. It was about the hypostatic union [presence of both human and divine natures in Jesus Christ ] or the revealed substance of God in the incarnation.

Well, this is not what the Catholic Encyclopedia says concerning the beliefs of the Arians. See the very first sentence of this link and is reconfirmed later in the same article. Here is another interesting article on the topic.

The Filioque controversy was important in maintaining the distinction of the three in Trinitarian monotheism, there is no claim that Christ would be before the Father or the Spirit since they are in being one and in persons three. John 15:26

My point is that the filioque phrase is just another indication of an interpolation that wasn't originally there and was then added after the fact so as to indicate thereby that the Holy Ghost not only proceeded from God but also "the Son" which is what the phrase means. From an Islamic perspective the Holy Spirit (who btw is not God but rather the Messenger Angel, Gabriel) is mentioned in the Qur'an as being sent by God, and therefore comes from Him. This is clearly stated in Surah Maryam where it is said: "And We sent to her Our spirit to appear before her in the form of a perfect man ... I am but a Messenger from your Lord, to announce to you the gift of a pure son" (verses 17, 19).

godilali

I had to read your post twice and didn’t realize model logic was a tenet of Islamic faith.

I take it you mean 'Modal Logic' which btw is occasioned by your use of the highly ambiguous term "can" which can either mean "Is it possible ..." or "to have the ability or power" and the application of this power to what is logically necessary, logically impossible, logically possible and logically contingent, and so on. So when you asked: "Can Allah do all things?" it is the ambiguous nature of the word "can" that occasions this kind of response. Also, the verb "can" - you might recall - is referred to as a "modal auxiliary", which also calls for a response that clarifies the various meanings of "can" as well as the concepts of 'locigal possibility', 'logical necessity', 'logical impossibility', and so on.

It should be remembered that scholars in the past attempted to prove many a theological position by resorting both to textual and rational proofs. Scholars and thinkers from other religious traditions (Jewish and Christian) engaged in similar argument types. You might recall the Schoolmen or Scholastic Theology, and so on. Thomas Aquinas was in the forefront of providing such a rational basis for Roman Catholic Theology. This became later known as Thomism or Thomistic Philosphy which attempted to harmonise Roman Catholic Theology with Aristotelianism. Mind you, in this regard he was greatly influenced by certain Islamic Philosophers and Muslim Theologians.

So it is not surprising that theologians from different religious traditions are going to attempt to develop a rational foundation for their respective theologies. However, there is always the risk of exessive rationalism to the extent that rationalism was made to ride roughshod over religious texts. This became an issue of reason vs. revelation. Historically, you will find groups on either side of the divide as well as though who deployed both reason and revelation but giving one preference over the other when a conflict occurred between the two.

So if logic is invoked in responses it should come as a surprise because of the attempt made by past scholars to argue theological positions rationally and logically. At the same time your question is such that such approach is almost unavoidable because of the use of the modal auxiliary "can" on two occasions "Can Allah do all things?" and "I've also seen that Muslims claim that Allah can lie".

Finally, I hope to hear from you questions that deal more with the essence of Islam rather than questions that are treated more on the fringe if treated at all in the Islamic tradition, and do not constitute the essnetial points of difference between Islam and Christianity. Some of these questions I know too well. I hope you don't mind my frankness.