Question in regards to a verse of the Quran

[abulayl]

Allah the Almighty addressed to prophet Adam(aw): "Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you: Verily Satan is an open enemy unto you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If You forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers." Allah said; "Get down, one of you an enemy to the other (Adam, Eve, and Satan etc). On earth will be a dwelling place for you and an enjoyment, for a time." He said: "Therein you shall live and therein you shall die, and from it you shall be brought out (resurrected)." (7:22-25).

Did Allah forgive him and then send them to The earth? or After saying that dua they had been sent to the earth and then after the incident about doing dua with the name of Prophet mohammad(sw) Allah forgive him?

And after all the hadith some says its mawdo and some says its hasan.

Muhammad (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam)said, "After Adam (Alaihis Salam) happened to commit the wrong,(as a result of which he was transferred from Paradise to Earth) he used to spend all his time in weeping, praying and repenting, and once he looked up towards the Heaven and supplicated, "O Allah! I beg thy forgiveness in the name of Muhammad (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam)." "Who is Muhammad?" came the enquiry through divine revelation. He replied, "When you created me, I saw the words LAA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH written on your 'Arsh', and since then I believed that no human being is superior to Muhammad (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam), whose name appeared along with yours." In reply it was revealed," He is to be the last of all prophets, and will be your descendant. If he were not created, you also would not have been created."

[MoGame]

Please this hadith is made up do not spread it.

[Colonel_Hardstone]

Asslamo Allaikum,

Hadeeth classed as Hasan

Hadeeth classed as Sound

Hadeeth classed as Sound

Other Scholars have called in Fabricated.

[abulayl]

Please this hadith is made up do not spread it.

really?

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...45652a2c7f32cb

I know what islayqa says.


My question was about the whole story. When he got forgiveness from Allah?

When he recited the dua in jannah as quran stated, or after doing dua through wasilah of prophet mohammad(sw) ?

[mujee]

there is no contradiction: if u do something wrong, have you never asked Allah for forgiveness many times at different occasions, although Allah may have forgiven you the first time you asked?

[abulayl]

there is no contradiction: if u do something wrong, have you never asked Allah for forgiveness many times at different occasions, although Allah may have forgiven you the first time you asked?

I do 100 sin everyday, and ask for the forgiveness too. but in this story it isn´t me bur prophet adam(aw) who is wellknown for his one mistake. And the matter which i asked, when he got forgiveness? Quran says after reciting the dua he was sent to the dunya. and other one probabely when he was allready in dunya and remember prophet(sw) name and ask for dua.

So again when he got forgiveness? before coming in the world or after? cause its importent to know cause the hadith contradicts with quran verse.

[andy8118]

Please this hadith is made up do not spread it.

Please do not spread false classifications.

Back to the thread. They are not contradictory (as is obvious regarding the Quran) even by chrono order.

The same incident is narrated in Surah Baqarah 2:35-39. With almost identical wording except with a bit of detail for the discussion you raised. More specifically verses 37- 38 (translated as):

Then Adam learnt certain words (to pray with) from his Lord; so, Allah accepted his repentance. No doubt He is the Most-Relenting, the Very-Merciful. We said, "Go down from here, all of you. Then, should some guidance come to you from Me, those who follow My guidance shall have no fear, nor shall they grieve.

So the forgiveness at the time of the initial repentance was a partial forgiveness and to send them into this world such that they could still have "enjoyment for a time" (2:36 and 7:24) the manifestation of this partial forgiveness. Which proves it was not absolute loss such that they would be counted "among the losers". Instead there's a partial forgiveness and they can still have pleasure within a limited scope and all is not lost.

Then the "guidance" that came could have been this tawasul wALLAHU 'alam to grant them full forgiveness. That is, the decree for their return to perpetual bliss (Jannah) as is the place of all prophets when they leave this world (as opposed to their dwelling on this earth for any partial temporal enjoyment). But the decree to leave this world (from ALLAH's infinite knowledge) was not to come until this guidance be revealed to him , the du'a made and its acceptance (from ALLAH).

In both instances the concluding verses of this story relate to the akhira

There you shall live and there you shall die and from there you shall be taken out.

(translation 7:25)

As for those who disbelieve, and deny Our signs, they are the people of the Fire - they shall be there forever

(translation 2:39)

Thus it may imply that the full forgiveness (if as a result of the tawasul) would take effect in the return to the perpetual bliss which is inferred in speaking about the life they would return to in Jannah.

[abulayl]

ähmm jazakallahu khairan bro andy for the clarification, but would you like to tell it once again in street english language? cause your words were too hard for me to understand.

[squier]

www.dictionary.com

Figure it out yourself, inshallah it will help improve your english.

[abulayl]

www.dictionary.com

Figure it out yourself, inshallah it will help improve your english.

jazakallahu khair, thx for the dictionary, but bro Andy will do that for me Inshallah.