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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
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    For the fellow who was talking about the six authentic books, I hope he knows that Imam Malik's Muwatta is also an authentic book. It is not mentioned in the six because most of its hadith are found in Bukhari and Muslim. Shah Waliullah Muhaddith Dehlawi said that the most authentic book after the Qur'an was the Muwatta'.
    you said that muta maalik is alsi in authentic 6 books ! please correct urself dear and you said right lack of knowledge is very much spreaded in our youth . the authentic six book names are Sunni Muslims view the six major hadith collections as their most important. They are, in order of authenticity:[1]
    Sahih Bukhari, collected by Imam Bukhari (d. 870), includes 7275 ahadith
    Sahih Muslim, collected by Muslim b. al-Hajjaj (d. 875), includes 9200 ahadith
    Sunan al-Sughra, collected by al-Nasa'i (d. 915)
    Sunan Abu Dawood, collected by Abu Dawood (d. 888)
    Jami al-Tirmidhi, collected by al-Tirmidhi (d. 892)
    Sunan ibn Majah, collected by Ibn Majah (d. 887)
    source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_maj...th_collections

    so please try to quote from the saha sitta in ur next post and also refrain to spread wrong knowledge to the forum visitors that malik mouta is a saha sitta book .


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    Quote Originally Posted by nadeem5476 View Post
    jazak ALLAH brother in ISLAM .
    but the selection of words reflecting the intention of yours very clearly in ur post i quoted , i only wanted to know the AUTHENTIC reference and thats it . i dodnt say i have read all the saha sitta or siha sitta books !
    you seem to always b ready to PICK word only . my brother , knowledge is not a property of any one , may b if you know something and i dont then it doesnt mean that you are superior and u r allowed to correct me in the way you did in ur post quoted above .
    i know what is saha sitta , if i misspelled then there are other ways to point , well the point is still not cleared that WHY kiswa change each n every YEAR ??

    in another post of yours you said that muta maalik is alsi in authentic 6 books ! please correct urself dear and you said right lack of knowledge is very much spreaded in our youth . the authentic six book names are Sunni Muslims view the six major hadith collections as their most important. They are, in order of authenticity:[1]
    Sahih Bukhari, collected by Imam Bukhari (d. 870), includes 7275 ahadith
    Sahih Muslim, collected by Muslim b. al-Hajjaj (d. 875), includes 9200 ahadith
    Sunan al-Sughra, collected by al-Nasa'i (d. 915)
    Sunan Abu Dawood, collected by Abu Dawood (d. 888)
    Jami al-Tirmidhi, collected by al-Tirmidhi (d. 892)
    Sunan ibn Majah, collected by Ibn Majah (d. 887)
    source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_maj...th_collections

    so please try to quote from the saha sitta in ur next post and also refrain to spread wrong knowledge to the forum visitors that malik mouta is a saha sitta book .
    jazak ALLAH .

    You quote a kafir website to tell me which are the six authentic books of hadith. By the way, can you tell me how many fabricated narrations there are in the Sunan of Ibn Majah?
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    Here. Read what your own website has to say about Malik's Muwatta' before mumbling about misinformation:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muwatta_Imam_Malik
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    Quote Originally Posted by At Tayyib View Post
    When was the last time you changed your clothes? Can you present any proof for changing clothes.
    kiddish reply from a senior member ! my GOD !
    changing of my clothes are not in islam ! (mind it) and changing of kisswa is a sacred matter and each n every year on a SET date it is done since years !
    so before posting your non sense things first atleast realise that where u r posting and what you are posting.
    act like sensible.

    dnt take it on heart , its an advice .


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    And here is something about the Muwatta' from an Islamic site:
    Importance of Muwatta & Its Position

    This renowned and popular book of Hadith, on one hand, is the pioneering collection of traditions and on the other hand it enjoys a high ranking as per the authenticity of the traditions and the many more advantages. One can realize the importance of the book that, according to Ibnul Hubab, Imam Malik used to narrate one hundred thousand traditions and out of which only ten thousand were recorded in Muwatta. Thereafter, he continued making modifications until it was reduced to only 500 Ahadith. Abul Hasan bin Fahar has quoted the saying of Atiq bin Yaqub that earlier Muwatta contained ten thousand traditions, but Imam Malik kept on reviewing and excluding some of the traditions until it reached to the point where it is today. Due to untiring and tremendous efforts of Imam Malik his book earned popularity. People appreciated it and regarded its traditions as correct and authentic. Imam Shaf’ee pays tribute to him saying: "Muwatta of Imam Malik is most authentic after the book of Allah.” It is to be mentioned that this saying of Imam Shaf’ee dates to the period when Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim were not compiled. However, this quotation reflects the significance of Muwatta. Apart from Imam Shaf’ee, Imam Tahtawi also has termed Muwatta as ‘Al-Sahih’. It means that some scholars have regarded all the contents of Muwatta as authentic. His sincerity and piety also played a part to popularize his book. There were some people who tried to write books on his pattern. When he was informed of them he wished to see these books. Having seen the books, he remarked: "You should know that only the things are accepted by Allah which are based on true intentions and devotion." So, today no Muwatta of that time remains except that of Imam Malik. The below story also sheds some light on his purity of intention:

    When caliph Mansoor came Hejaz for Hajj pilgrimage he requested that I want to ask people to prepare copies of your book and send them to different cities and command Muslims to follow them. Imam Malik prevented him to do so saying that the traditions have reached far and wide, and people are acting accordingly. Let them follow the way of their choice.

    Imam Abu Na’eem Asfahani has mentioned a similar story related to caliph Haroon Al-Rashid and Imam Malik. Imam Malik says that Haroon requested him that Muwatta should be tied to the door of Ka’bah and people should be ordered to follow it. But, Imam Malik replied: "Do not do hat, the Companions themselves have differed in smaller details of Shariah and these opinions have spread in different cities."

    These stories evidently prove that Imam Malik had true intention and sincerity. Had he wished fame he would have not missed this golden chance of spreading his book and his Fiqhi School in the Islamic world.
    http://www.deoband.net/1/post/2011/5...roduction.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    And here is something about the Muwatta' from an Islamic site:
    Importance of Muwatta & Its Position

    This renowned and popular book of Hadith, on one hand, is the pioneering collection of traditions and on the other hand it enjoys a high ranking as per the authenticity of the traditions and the many more advantages. One can realize the importance of the book that, according to Ibnul Hubab, Imam Malik used to narrate one hundred thousand traditions and out of which only ten thousand were recorded in Muwatta. Thereafter, he continued making modifications until it was reduced to only 500 Ahadith. Abul Hasan bin Fahar has quoted the saying of Atiq bin Yaqub that earlier Muwatta contained ten thousand traditions, but Imam Malik kept on reviewing and excluding some of the traditions until it reached to the point where it is today. Due to untiring and tremendous efforts of Imam Malik his book earned popularity. People appreciated it and regarded its traditions as correct and authentic. Imam Shaf’ee pays tribute to him saying: "Muwatta of Imam Malik is most authentic after the book of Allah.” It is to be mentioned that this saying of Imam Shaf’ee dates to the period when Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim were not compiled. However, this quotation reflects the significance of Muwatta. Apart from Imam Shaf’ee, Imam Tahtawi also has termed Muwatta as ‘Al-Sahih’. It means that some scholars have regarded all the contents of Muwatta as authentic. His sincerity and piety also played a part to popularize his book. There were some people who tried to write books on his pattern. When he was informed of them he wished to see these books. Having seen the books, he remarked: "You should know that only the things are accepted by Allah which are based on true intentions and devotion." So, today no Muwatta of that time remains except that of Imam Malik. The below story also sheds some light on his purity of intention:

    When caliph Mansoor came Hejaz for Hajj pilgrimage he requested that I want to ask people to prepare copies of your book and send them to different cities and command Muslims to follow them. Imam Malik prevented him to do so saying that the traditions have reached far and wide, and people are acting accordingly. Let them follow the way of their choice.

    Imam Abu Na’eem Asfahani has mentioned a similar story related to caliph Haroon Al-Rashid and Imam Malik. Imam Malik says that Haroon requested him that Muwatta should be tied to the door of Ka’bah and people should be ordered to follow it. But, Imam Malik replied: "Do not do hat, the Companions themselves have differed in smaller details of Shariah and these opinions have spread in different cities."

    These stories evidently prove that Imam Malik had true intention and sincerity. Had he wished fame he would have not missed this golden chance of spreading his book and his Fiqhi School in the Islamic world.
    http://www.deoband.net/1/post/2011/5...roduction.html
    i didnt ask you to let me know the importance of imam maouta .
    i said this is FOR SURE not in saha sitta and you should appologise spreading FAKE / WRONG knowledge.
    i told you above , knowledge is not a meeraas of any one .
    it is good to say sorry with a humble heart. ALLAH likes that (hope you will consider)

    jazak ALLAH
    advice for you ** try to think on a MACRO level of spreading authentic and true knowledge instead of proving oneself a superior most in the forum .


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    Quote Originally Posted by nadeem5476 View Post
    i didnt ask you to let me know the importance of imam maouta .
    i said this is FOR SURE not in saha sitta and you should appologise spreading FAKE / WRONG knowledge.
    i told you above , knowledge is not a meeraas of any one .
    it is good to say sorry with a humble heart. ALLAH likes that (hope you will consider)

    jazak ALLAH
    advice for you ** try to think on a MACRO level of spreading authentic and true knowledge instead of proving oneself a superior most in the forum .
    After reading your posts, I am wondering why I am wasting time with you. What knowledge do you intend to spread at the Macro level when your own knowledge is at a Micro level? Khayr, I don't think that I need to discuss anything further with you.
    Peace upon those who follow true guidance.
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    Hum ghareebon ke aaqa pe behad durood, Hum faqeeron ki sarwat pe laakhon salaam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    After reading your posts, I am wondering why I am wasting time with you. What knowledge do you intend to spread at the Macro level when your own knowledge is at a Micro level? Khayr, I don't think that I need to discuss anything further with you.
    Peace upon those who follow true guidance.
    jazak ALLAH for your comments my brother in ISLAM . i love you for the sake of ALLAH only .
    wassalaam .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    Not short tempered sister, just irritable.
    People like me are called "khadoos" in our culture.


    dr. @abutamim as sis. sudoku mentioned u were humble in ur comments..yes.. u are humble and always helpful and very respectful to ur fellow beings...


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    Quote Originally Posted by nameuser View Post


    dr. @abutamim as sis. sudoku mentioned u were humble in ur comments..yes.. u are humble and always helpful and very respectful to ur fellow beings...

    for the compliment, sister. May Allah make me as you have mentioned in your post and not expose me for what I really am.
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