Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16

Thread: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,021

    Default Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports2/ArmagII-B.html
    http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports/Zawahiri.html


    Tapes from Al Qaeda leaders are normally issued prior to a false-flag attempt to build up the legend surrounding the event if it is succesful. So I was expecting one when it appeared on January 14, six days before the Obama inauguration.

    After waiting patiently, I was able to download the new "Bin Laden tape" from one of Uncle Sam's official disinformation sites, "Laura Mansfield." This is the site that once committed the blunder of releasing a similar tape to the public before it was posted on any of those mysterious "islamic websites."

    Like ALL the Bin Laden tapes and videos this one is a fake. Reverse it, and all you get are the English language thoughts of an army propaganda specialist doing a job he doesn't enjoy. On this one, the script calls for Holy War against Israel (because of Gaza). If they end up blaming the false flag missile on Al Qaeda, then this tape will be part of the evidence.

    Sound on this Bin Laden tape is really bad. Take a look:


    The example shows decent sound on the left, sound from the Bin Laden tape on the right. Occassionally, the psy-ops boys go through a phase in which they want to show Arabs as incompetent. Not only did they create audio this time that is so bad it's barely understandable when played normally, they even "accidentally" included a segment of a radio broadcast in the middle of the speech, just to make it look like the producer didn't know how to operate his equipment!

    In the first example below, I've taken two segments from the tape and simply show all the reversals that were present. You can see that we are dealing with a very verbose "stream of consciousness" that is almost random. The whole tape is like this. Happily, there is so much material like this that you can assemble a quite a good picture of who this guy is, and what his life is like.

    I've worked to clean up the sound but you can only do so much with a really bad source. You may not be able to hear these reversals unless you turn up your volume and follow along on the written list:

    REVERSED SPEECH

    U.S. Army Psy-Ops Specialist
    Impersonating Osama Bin Laden
    Calling for Holy War against Israel
    Released to Press January 14, 2009

    Reversals featured in this sound clip

    Fwd: N/A
    Rev: I'LL CLEAN NEXT WEEK-END
    Rev: SOME WILL CRY
    Rev: OUR GOVERNMENT
    Rev: YOU'LL NEVER HEAR IT
    Rev: SUBMARINE
    Rev: I EAT A PIZZA
    Rev: I EAT IT AT TOMMY'S
    Rev: A MURDER

    Fwd: N/A
    Rev: COMBING THE GROUND FOR BIN LADEN
    Rev: A FUNNY ELEMENT
    Rev: WHEN WILL THE GUYS WAKE UP

    The kid who's pretending to be Bin Laden is not happy with his job, and refers to himself as a SLUT. He seems to be in a confined area with limited resources, perhaps a compound of sorts, and definitely not inside the U.S. He worries about how he will support himself when he leaves the Army, and wonders if his wife can support him while he goes back to school.

    I originally thought he didn't know much about the Missile poised to launch over Israel. As I dug deeper, though, it turned out that he understood the basics quite well. This included the fact that it had a nuclear warhead, and represented the hopes of military people he thinks of as "nuke-war nuts." At a number of points his unconscious voice threw in comments like TERRIBLE, and HORRIBLE.

    Note the photo below, taken from the video image that was superimposed over the audio track. Bin Laden, right? No, not at all. Remember, I told you ALL the Bin Laden material was faked from day one. That includes the original videos which were produced before 9-11 to create the Bin Laden and Zawahiri legends. Those were also fakes. The actor who was chosen to play Bin Laden had a terrific face, though, and that's what the world ended up with. He's gone now, for whatever reason, but his face was so distinctive that they've never been able to find a believable replacement.

    So let's hear what "the kid" knows about the Armageddon Missile. Remember, the audio was recorded at least a week before it was finally available for download, and that dates it just before the Gordon Brown material above.

    Reversals featured in this sound clip

    Fwd: N/A
    Rev: USE THE RAW MISSILE

    Fwd: N/A
    Rev: LORD GIVE YOUR PEACE!
    Rev: ITS NUKE!
    Rev: NUKE WAR NUTS

    Fwd: N/A
    Rev: HOW SAD WILL IT BE NOW
    Rev: THEY FEAR THAT
    Rev: THEY COME TO RELEASE IT


    The word that sounds like RAW is unknown to me. I've heard RAW MISSILE once before, though, so I'm assuming it has meaning. It might be short for Remote Activated Weapon. On the other hand, your guess is just as good as mine. Perhaps someone will find a useable reference for us.


  2. FREE postage anywhere in the UK.

  3. #2
    Scholar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,355

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    One thing i am certain about is the tapes are fake.


  4. "How To Begin Reading And Understanding An Arabic Book in 21 Days"

  5. #3
    Senior Member bugmenot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Don't know
    Location
    In troubled times...
    Posts
    3,183

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    ok then tell me why those who release OBL's videos&tapes are the same who show videos of attacks against US soldiers in iraq,etc.?


  6. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,021

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    This is the art of blackops .

    If you read the history of British infiltration of Irish Republic Army , you will understand this art. The trick is to promote a group who do some good acts which earn public confidence and credibility. Then the same group is used as disinformation agent to destroy the real movement. Something like a Trojan horse.

    The following link might give you some interesting insights.

    http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports/Bombers.html

    Who's Killing Our Soldiers?

    by Ken Welch in Houston

    The War On Terror is purely a made-for-television affair, but the images we see are painted with the blood of real people.

    Shortly after our discovery that the Al Zarqawi who appeared in the 2004 Nick Berg beheading video was actually a US soldier, I decided I should monitor the steady stream of "terrorist" videos coming out of Iraq. I found them on an odd website that had appeared early in the War on Terror, www.ogrish.com, which has just recently become http://www.liveleak.com in a copycat makeover to make it look like YouTube. Supposedly created to show the gritty and ugly side of life (primarily dead bodies), it appeared to be the US-based outlet for all manner of propaganda films supposedly generated by our enemies. It never had any visible means of financial support but it always had the latest Al Qaeda or Iraqi "resistance" video (sometimes shortened) within hours of their release. If the U.S. government actually believed in Al Qaeda and the like, they would trace their enemy by investigating sites such as these.


  7. #5
    Scholar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,355

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by bugmenot View Post
    ok then tell me why those who release OBL's videos&tapes are the same who show videos of attacks against US soldiers in iraq,etc.?


    If a video is fake it is fake, this also shows al-jazeera cant be trusted becuase they show fake videos.

    If you had a look at al-jazeeras website over the past year and analysed articles, there articles by and large are disgraceful. Sometimes, some articles are accurate but now they are few and far between.

    Another point is that zionists have a history of creating controlled opposition, hence you might think they are with you but they are against you. You'd be surprised to know which leaders are freemasons.



  8. #6
    Senior Member bugmenot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Don't know
    Location
    In troubled times...
    Posts
    3,183

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape


    you didn't answer my question.
    Al jazeera is undoubtedly not reliable. But OBL's videos come from one specific website (where you can even yourself subscribe if you know Arabic.), then Al Jazeera may show it on their screen like any other media, but the original video comes from a "islamist" forum where you find only anti-US videos.


  9. #7
    Scholar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,355

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by bugmenot View Post

    you didn't answer my question.
    Al jazeera is undoubtedly not reliable. But OBL's videos come from one specific website (where you can even yourself subscribe if you know Arabic.), then Al Jazeera may show it on their screen like any other media, but the original video comes from a "islamist" forum where you find only anti-US videos.


    Alot of these so called 'islamist' webites are run from a base in texas or run by mossad. It is plane propaganda.



  10. #8
    Senior Member bugmenot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Don't know
    Location
    In troubled times...
    Posts
    3,183

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape



    So adh-dhawahiriy is also plain propaganda? The whole world is controlled by Zionists, even Islamists and all the blasts that occurred are fake/made up?

    It's not that I necessarily agree with them, but let's face it. It's them, and we can't just continue to blame Zionists for things that are crystal clear.

    Again, go on their website, and tell them (with amongst them real fighters in 'Iraaq, not just chatting like us): "Hey you're all fake I don't trust you".


  11. #9
    Scholar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Hanafi
    Posts
    1,355

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by bugmenot View Post


    So adh-dhawahiriy is also plain propaganda? The whole world is controlled by Zionists, even Islamists and all the blasts that occurred are fake/made up?

    It's not that I necessarily agree with them, but let's face it. It's them, and we can't just continue to blame Zionists for things that are crystal clear.

    Again, go on their website, and tell them (with amongst them real fighters in 'Iraaq, not just chatting like us): "Hey you're all fake I don't trust you".



    Look I am not giving my opinion on wether bin laden or adh-dhawahiriy are right or wrong. What i am saying is fake videos of them have been released. As for blasts in iraq I have not done much research on it so I wont comment. However, what I am saying is:

    1) Most of these 'islamist' websites are fake.
    2) The videos are fake.

    As for people visiting these sites, it could be anyone, but be assured if they post on them they will be tracked. So the point is the 'islamist' websites by and large are fake.

    I have even read reports a long time ago from trusted sources that bin laden is dead. So any video coming out is fake in addition to proffessionals who analyse these videos commenting that they are fake.



  12. #10
    Senior Member bugmenot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Gender
    Brother
    Madhhab
    Don't know
    Location
    In troubled times...
    Posts
    3,183

    Default Re: Another Fake Bin Laden Tape

    Ok.



Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •